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Is there a shortage of GTX 295 cards?

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Originally posted by: Zap
Right, but I don't think that affects highly allocated parts like the GTX 295. Trust me on this.
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Hmm, I can see what your saying, but what else can have caused the GTX295 to suddenly go OOS everywhere?

Im sure nVIDIA has moved onto 55nm for most of their products now (G98, G96, G94, G92) since the 65nm "inventory" problem is now gone.

On a side note, do you work for BFG? 😛
 
Originally posted by: blanketyblank
I thought it was common knowledge here he and johnnyguru work for BFG.
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I never knew! Hmm, i must've been living under a cave 😀

This practically means my blabbering is pretty much incorrect. Zap, can you clarify on what you mean by "highly allocated" parts? and this per week basis you speak of. Confused here atm.

edit - Unless you mean that partners are waiting for the chip specifically allocated for the GTX295 (think it was the G200-400-B3) where nVIDIA doesn't have enough of these?
 
Originally posted by: KaRRiLLioN
I just finished building a new system and of course can't find the GTX295 I want to go into this beast.
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Originally posted by: KaRRiLLioN
@blanketyblank - you're right, but I'm not interested in SLI. Been there, done that. Wasn't worth it IMO. I know--ironic coming from the guy who just bought a CPU that probably still won't be fully utilized with games. LOL.
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:roll:

What exactly do you think the GTX 295 is? Just in case you don't know, it's a pair of GTX 260 cards (with 240 stream shaders enabled) in SLI mode on one card.

So if you seriously don't want SLI - look somewhere else.
 
Nooooo!!!!!

Just got the dreaded your item is back ordered from Tigerdirect, I should have known better than to trust the CSR rep. I hope they dont make me wait 10 min on the phone to cancel my order like Microcenter did.

I guess I will be hunting for a 4870x2. I will stick to my tried and trusted vendors from now on. Newegg, Zipzoomfly, Buy.com, even the geeks are better.

FYI for everyone micro center and tiger direct do not have real time inventory.
 
I dont know why peeps have a bad view on the GTX295...it is a seriously good card. Lets not forget that it consumes far less power especially at idle and produces less heat then the 4870x2....with more performance , the 4870x2 only starts to show its teeth at very high res with massive amounts of AA & AF enabled. Its a better card accross the board then the 4870x2.
I got my XFX GTX295 at lauch for 409 EURO.

And to be perfectly honest..who gives S@IT about bang for buck when you are a serious gamer. Its not like its hundreds of $$$$$$ more exspensive....and if you game at high res you need the performance simple as.

In fact if you wanna talk about bang for buck look at the Pallit GOLDEN SAMPLE 4870x2 mad mad money and a fraction quicker then the vanilla 4870x2...and same price as the GTX295
 
Originally posted by: Puffnstuff
Newegg has the evga cards back in stock right now.
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Damn $500 is a lot, then there's the one with the backplate gimmick for even more $.

Does anyone know if new cards are being released in march by ATI/Nvidia? Might have to bite the bullet and pay full price for one of these if there's no coming refresh.
 
Originally posted by: TheDoc9
Originally posted by: Puffnstuff
Newegg has the evga cards back in stock right now.
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Damn $500 is a lot, then there's the one with the backplate gimmick for even more $.

Does anyone know if new cards are being released in march by ATI/Nvidia? Might have to bite the bullet and pay full price for one of these if there's no coming refresh.
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Latest rumors out of Inq claim problems with TSMC's 40nm process. They also claim Nvidia's 40nm GT212 is probably going to be cancelled (next high-end before GT300), and while Inq rumors about Nvidia are always going to be negative, there is probably some truth to this one given some of the inventory issues Nvidia talked about in their recent press releases and conference call. Similarly, recent rumors about ATI's RV790 being a 55nm and not a 40nm part would also lend some credibility to the rumor. End result is we may see GT300 and RV870 sooner rather than later if refreshes are skipped and everything is accelerated, or we may see them much later if TSMC continues to have problems with 40nm.
 
Originally posted by: blanketyblank
I thought it was common knowledge here he and johnnyguru work for BFG.
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Yes, we both work for BFG. However, for the record we aren't here to shill for the company and we were both here for YEARS before we started working for BFG. That should be very obvious as my join date is 1999 and BFG wasn't "born" until 2001 or so.

Also (probably to jonnyGURU's chagrin) I've been guilty of using and recommending PSUs from other manufacturers. While I really like BFG PSUs, there are some instances that they aren't the best choice. For instance, we don't have any really inexpensive units, so on occasion I'll recommend Antec EarthWatts when they're on sale. Plus, we don't have any ginormous modular PSU right now 😉 , so if someone wanted one I would have to point them elsewhere.. Also, I'm temporarily using an Antec NSK3480 case for my LAN party rig, and unfortunately no BFG PSU will fit in there with an optical drive in place due to use of large 135-140mm fans making the PSU too deep.

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
Zap, can you clarify on what you mean by "highly allocated" parts? and this per week basis you speak of.
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That means there isn't enough to go around. Think of the PS3 at launch. NVIDIA started making them ahead of launch so at launch (CES) there were plenty of cards being stocked all over the place. However, the cards are really good sellers for being so expensive and because NVIDIA cannot (nor can anyone else) crank out unlimited numbers of its most complex product instantly, this means they are shipping small batches (compared to lesser products) on a weekly basis, and distributing them among all the NVIDIA partners worldwide. I'm sure if you count the worldwide number, it might seem pretty decent. However, only a small part of that goes to each company. Anyways, basically speaking, any product that has demand outstripping production instantly becomes "highly allocated."

Originally posted by: TheDoc9
Damn $500 is a lot, then there's the one with the backplate gimmick for even more $.
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If you want to make the back of the card cooler, just point a fan on it. I'm not very convinced that it does a huge amount that a simple fan could not. At another forum someone (who's also here) got some abnormally good results, but others could not duplicate his feat.

Originally posted by: TheDoc9
Does anyone know if new cards are being released in march by ATI/Nvidia? Might have to bite the bullet and pay full price for one of these if there's no coming refresh.
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You should pay attention to rumors that certain sites report on, and of course discussion in forums such as here. 😛

Now, as it relates to the top end cards such as the GTX 285 and GTX 295, what do you think? "Nvidia also adopted the goal of an internal 6-month product-cycle." From CES to March? Yeah... that sounds like a six month product cycle. 😕
 
Canceled my order from tiger direct and ordered form Newegg, they where out of the EVGA $500 ones so I had to buy the EVGA$529 with the gimmick back plate, I don't care this has gone long enough. At least its got a lifetime warranty.

Props to NEWEGG ordered it at 4:30pm and now 5 hours later my status is shipped.

I checked again now and once again it is out of stock, so I guess they only get a few of these at a time. I know I will be happy with my purchase and will have no regrets unless it sets my house on fire.

I know I am poor excuse for a ATOTER for paying full price but this whole ordering then canceling orders was getting on my nerves.

Peace
 
Originally posted by: Zap
That means there isn't enough to go around. Think of the PS3 at launch. NVIDIA started making them ahead of launch so at launch (CES) there were plenty of cards being stocked all over the place. However, the cards are really good sellers for being so expensive and because NVIDIA cannot (nor can anyone else) crank out unlimited numbers of its most complex product instantly, this means they are shipping small batches (compared to lesser products) on a weekly basis, and distributing them among all the NVIDIA partners worldwide. I'm sure if you count the worldwide number, it might seem pretty decent. However, only a small part of that goes to each company. Anyways, basically speaking, any product that has demand outstripping production instantly becomes "highly allocated."
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Thanks for the explanation. 🙂


 
Originally posted by: Wonda I3oy
I dont know why peeps have a bad view on the GTX295...it is a seriously good card. Lets not forget that it consumes far less power especially at idle and produces less heat then the 4870x2....with more performance
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Click I see your point. :roll:


the 4870x2 only starts to show its teeth at very high res with massive amounts of AA & AF enabled. Its a better card accross the board then the 4870x2.
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I was actually curious about how much faster the GTX 295 was over the X2 and after averaging the results from five well-known review sites, the GTX is 3-5% faster at 1920x1200 and dead even with the X2 at 2560x1600. So yes the GTX is faster but not enough to get excited over.


And to be perfectly honest..who gives S@IT about bang for buck when you are a serious gamer. Its not like its hundreds of $$$$$$ more exspensive....and if you game at high res you need the performance simple as.
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Lol. Plenty of people care about bang-for-the-buck, even those who game at high-res. If you game at hi-res you would see a minuscule difference between the cards anyway so I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

Back OT- Hopefully more stock of the GTX will come in as it seemed to be helping prices stay competitive when it was available.

 
Originally posted by: Elfear
Originally posted by: Wonda I3oy
I dont know why peeps have a bad view on the GTX295...it is a seriously good card. Lets not forget that it consumes far less power especially at idle and produces less heat then the 4870x2....with more performance
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Click I see your point. :roll:
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is that a sarcastic eye roll because the gtx295 does use over 30 watts less so that is not small.

 
Originally posted by: toyota
Originally posted by: Elfear
Originally posted by: Wonda I3oy
I dont know why peeps have a bad view on the GTX295...it is a seriously good card. Lets not forget that it consumes far less power especially at idle and produces less heat then the 4870x2....with more performance
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Click I see your point. :roll:
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is that a sarcastic eye roll because the gtx295 does use over 30 watts less so that is not small.
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I was implying sarcasm yes. 31W is less, but I wouldn't consider a <7% difference at load "far less".

A few other review sites show the disparity being even smaller..
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Review 3

Kudos should certainly be given to Nvidia for having less power consumption on average than the X2 while being slightly more powerful, but the difference isn't that big IMO.
 
Actually if they are not available, they use zero watts. Nvidia is certainly having problems this year.
 
Originally posted by: ronnn
Actually if they are not available, they use zero watts. Nvidia is certainly having problems this year.
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You didn't hear? GTX 295 is the new Wii 😉
 
Originally posted by: Wonda I3oy

Also I would look at the 285 OC from BFG seriously good card....and no I am not an nvidia fan boy!
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I'm going to back Wonda up on this one, plus the ringing w/F@H is much quieter than my old GTX 260. L4D at 90 fps min is quite good 🙂
 
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