Is the real problem House Democrats not getting anything done?

[omega3]

Am I the only one who is really getting annoyed with Democrats constantly announcing big things and than never actually doing them. So for weeks they've been saying they have the power to subpoena Mueller and his team.. has not happened yet.. that they can obtain the full report.. they even set a deadline (was tuesday week after release Barr summary) which has already long expired.. nothing has happened yet.

Like what's the point complaining about Barr's redacted report. The real problem is with all those House Democrats who never seem to be able to get anything done. Do they really think Trump or GOP is gonna do them any favors.

So instead of being angry at all the corruption in the GOP and Trump admin, shouldn't we be alot more angry at the incompetence of Democrats not being able to get anything done they promise. Watching MSNBC has gotten beyond ridicilous.

 

[ivwshane]

You should probably learn how government works first before bitching at people for not doing their jobs.

As far as the report goes. They said they would subpoena Mueller if they didn't get the report, the report is supposedly coming.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Hahahhhhhhaa

What did the Republican controlled Congress do while they had a President of the same party?

 

[JEDIYoda]

You should probably learn how government works first before bitching at people for not doing their jobs.

As far as the report goes. They said they would subpoena Mueller if they didn't get the report, the report is supposedly coming.

<---- This!!!

 

[omega3]

As far as the report goes. They said they would subpoena Mueller if they didn't get the report, the report is supposedly coming.

So you're happy with the release of a redacted report that Trump according to the NYT has seen in advance? You really believe that will show the full truth?

 

[UberNeuman]

So you're happy with the release of a redacted report that Trump according to the NYT has seen in advance? You really believe that
will show the full truth?

You’ll just have to wait. And thanks for the concern. lol.

 

[ivwshane]

So you're happy with the release of a redacted report that Trump according to the NYT has seen in advance? You really believe that will show the full truth?

I'm capable of waiting for a day. There are many, many things that bother me about this admin and the Democrats are doing just fine keeping things professional.

 

[omega3]

I'm capable of waiting for a day. There are many, many things that bother me about this admin and the Democrats are doing just fine keeping things professional.

Than let's talk about Trump's tax returns. House Democrats have been saying for weeks they absolutely would be able to get those. So when will we see them?

Today I read in the NYT it could be never. Are you seeing a pattern here? Yes, GOP is corrupt but Dems seem to be part of the problem. Checks and balanced doesn't really exist and I'm an independent to be clear so not sucking up to either side.

Maybe a pic says it better:

 

[ivwshane]

Unlike the Republicans, the Democrats respect the rule of law and the process and procedures their body has set previously. We don't need Democrats making their own rules and stooping to the level of Republicans.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Than let's talk about Trump's tax returns. House Democrats have been saying for weeks they absolutely would be able to get those. So when will we see them?

Today I read in the NYT it could be never. Are you seeing a pattern here? Yes, GOP is corrupt but Dems seem to be part of the problem. Checks and balanced doesn't really exist and I'm an independent to be clear so not sucking up to either side.

Maybe a pic says it better:

I think you need to regroup and stop watching FOX News! You are trying real hard to say the dems are complicit with the Republican and that is so far from the truth!
Unlike the Republicans the Dems respect the rule of the law and are working within the law and not trying to do away with the law!!

 

[dank69]

The real question you should be asking yourself, assuming you are not a trollbot, is:

When the Democrats get the tax returns and when they get the Mueller report and after they have gotten public testimony from Mueller, will I reevaluate my position or will I ignore my mistake and move directly to finding some other fault with the Democrats?

Make sure you be honest with yourself.

 

[omega3]

The real question you should be asking yourself, assuming you are not a trollbot, is:

When the Democrats get the tax returns and when they get the Mueller report and after they have gotten public testimony from Mueller, will I reevaluate my position or will I ignore my mistake and move directly to finding some other fault with the Democrats?

Make sure you be honest with yourself.

I will answer your question honestly if you folks here would consider giving me a thumbs up (my "like bar" looks kinda red).

If Democrats would actually accomplish a big victory, I would be happy and be the first to congratulate them. The truth is I am sad to see the Democrats lose over and over again and see Chump and the GOP get away with literally anything these days. It's up to House Democrats to stop complaining and use their power to get stuff done and for Democratic voters to be more critical of their own party. Is that fair enough for a thumbs up?

 

[Indus]

So you're happy with the release of a redacted report that Trump according to the NYT has seen in advance? You really believe that will show the full truth?

Hell no. The only ones happy with that is Trump and Trumpers.

We will get the truth eventually, I just don't think it'll be under the Trump administration which have made it a point to disobey the laws they disagree with.

 

[dank69]

I will answer your question honestly if you folks here would consider giving me a thumbs up (my "like bar" looks kinda red).

If Democrats would actually accomplish a big victory, I would be happy and be the first to congratulate them. The truth is I am sad to see the Democrats lose over and over again and see Chump and the GOP get away with literally anything these days. It's up to House Democrats to stop complaining and use their power to get stuff done and for Democratic voters to be more critical of their own party. Is that fair enough for a thumbs up?

Don't worry about the bar, it means nothing to anyone. I gave you a thumbs up for a good answer though. Be patient, Trump can't stonewall this forever.

 

[Viper1j]

Am I the only one who is really getting annoyed with Democrats constantly announcing big things and than never actually doing them. So for weeks they've been saying they have the power to subpoena Mueller and his team.. has not happened yet.. that they can obtain the full report.. they even set a deadline (was tuesday week after release Barr summary) which has already long expired.. nothing has happened yet.

Like what's the point complaining about Barr's redacted report. The real problem is with all those House Democrats who never seem to be able to get anything done. Do they really think Trump or GOP is gonna do them any favors.

So instead of being angry at all the corruption in the GOP and Trump admin, shouldn't we be alot more angry at the incompetence of Democrats not being able to get anything done they promise. Watching MSNBC has gotten beyond ridicilous.

They're getting plenty done. They're defending the Constitution, which is a hell of lot more than house republicants ever did.

 

[sandorski]

Don't worry about the bar, it means nothing to anyone. I gave you a thumbs up for a good answer though. Be patient, Trump can't stonewall this forever.

I nullified it, for his "caring" about it.

 

[Indus]

I will answer your question honestly if you folks here would consider giving me a thumbs up (my "like bar" looks kinda red).

If Democrats would actually accomplish a big victory, I would be happy and be the first to congratulate them. The truth is I am sad to see the Democrats lose over and over again and see Chump and the GOP get away with literally anything these days. It's up to House Democrats to stop complaining and use their power to get stuff done and for Democratic voters to be more critical of their own party. Is that fair enough for a thumbs up?

Glad to see you care about your country.

I won't pretend to be holier than thou and say Democrats are perfect.. they're not, they could do a lot more things that help the population like medicare for all, paid college education and more lgbt protections (stuff I really care about).. but compared to the GOP which likes to lie and lie and just want to be a reverse robinhood for the poor (tax cuts to the rich) at every turn, and blame brown/ black people and immigrants for every problem.. they sure look like a lot better option.

I think congress doing something is going to matter very little because the house can impeach which leads to a trial in the senate and currently with the senate makeup being the way it is.. it would have to mean 21 republican senators would have to vote to convict Donald Trump of something to remove him from office.. which might very well be a death wish for them politically.

A much more reasonable way to oust this corrupt administration is the next election provided it isn't close enough where Bush V Gore happens again.

 

[HomerJS]

Am I the only one who is really getting annoyed with Democrats constantly announcing big things and than never actually doing them. So for weeks they've been saying they have the power to subpoena Mueller and his team.. has not happened yet.. that they can obtain the full report.. they even set a deadline (was tuesday week after release Barr summary) which has already long expired.. nothing has happened yet.

Like what's the point complaining about Barr's redacted report. The real problem is with all those House Democrats who never seem to be able to get anything done. Do they really think Trump or GOP is gonna do them any favors.

So instead of being angry at all the corruption in the GOP and Trump admin, shouldn't we be alot more angry at the incompetence of Democrats not being able to get anything done they promise. Watching MSNBC has gotten beyond ridicilous.

So, goto the google machine and ask it about HR-1.

Read it and then get back to this thread.

 

[Vic]

Am I the only one who is really getting annoyed with Democrats constantly announcing big things and than never actually doing them. So for weeks they've been saying they have the power to subpoena Mueller and his team.. has not happened yet.. that they can obtain the full report.. they even set a deadline (was tuesday week after release Barr summary) which has already long expired.. nothing has happened yet.

Like what's the point complaining about Barr's redacted report. The real problem is with all those House Democrats who never seem to be able to get anything done. Do they really think Trump or GOP is gonna do them any favors.

So instead of being angry at all the corruption in the GOP and Trump admin, shouldn't we be alot more angry at the incompetence of Democrats not being able to get anything done they promise. Watching MSNBC has gotten beyond ridicilous.

Why aren't we supposed to be concerned that the Republicans and the Trump admin are hiding the full report from the American people?

 

[Jhhnn]

Dems haven't been in control of the HOR for 4 months. They're just getting warmed up.

 

[Vic]

Dems haven't been in control of the HOR for 4 months. They're just getting warmed up.

No, you don't understand, we're supposed to vote Republican because we're mad at the Democrats because the Republicans are redacting the Mueller Report.

 

[darkswordsman17]

I will answer your question honestly if you folks here would consider giving me a thumbs up (my "like bar" looks kinda red).

If Democrats would actually accomplish a big victory, I would be happy and be the first to congratulate them. The truth is I am sad to see the Democrats lose over and over again and see Chump and the GOP get away with literally anything these days. It's up to House Democrats to stop complaining and use their power to get stuff done and for Democratic voters to be more critical of their own party. Is that fair enough for a thumbs up?

Downvoted you for complaining. And, based on this thread, your red bar seems deserved (and unlike other people here saying it doesn't matter no one cares, I do because unless you're regularly a complete idiot and also a raging asshole, you wouldn't have that much red outside of the first reaction you ever received being negative).

Take that shit up with the Republicans that are the ones actually enabling and doing all of that.

No its not fair enough because its not in objective reality. Its the same old tired bullshit lie that conservatives have pushed onto non-conservatives that well the conservatives wouldn't be able to be so horrible if people would just stop them, so its really your own fault that conservatives are horrible. This is broken logic that even children can see through.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

So you're happy with the release of a redacted report that Trump according to the NYT has seen in advance? You really believe that will show the full truth?

I don't want a full unredacted report to go public and I never did. I want the entire unredacted report and all supporting documents to go to a few members of Congress and their staff to check Barr and take whatever action is needed at that point.

I want to see everything which does not create a threat or interfere with a proper process. I don't want to know things about Stone if it may impact his trial nor names or methods that should remain protected. What you and I want may be different things but see what happens and then we can jump on people if need be.

 

[soulcougher73]

Im sure the report will get leaked by someone to the public if its redacted to all hell and back. once the press and public get a hold of it, its game on.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Their entire platform today is making victims, whining about Trump, and talking about how great socialism is. Getting anything done isn't what gets them elected, they know as long as they keep their base scared they'll be fine.

Remember Democrat JFK once said, "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country." And they loved him for it, could you imagine a Democrat of today trying to run on such a thing? LOL! Not these Democrats today, they have their hands out and ready for free stuff.