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Is the hispanic/latino U.S. takeover a real threat?

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ivwshane said:
Hmm I wonder which party favors tax cuts and policies that increase the incarceration rate? How well do you think the opposing party fairs when saying they will raise taxes and make it harder to go to jail? Just because a party has control doesn't mean that's all there is to the story.

California may be deep blue now but it wasn't always, we are just getting tired of all the republican crap. So yes in the up coming years with a complete democrat control we shall see how things go.
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You missed it again so I'm just gonna type it myself in the most specific context.

#1. Between the mid 80's and 2005 Cali population went up by 10,000,000 people

#2. During that same period, those receiving Medicaid increased by 7,000,000

Now here's the kicker------

#3. Also during that same period tax filers paying income taxes rose by only 150,000!!!

Forget the prison crap, the unlicensed, uninsured illegals killing people on the roads, EASL & other educational burdens, 15 people & 12 cars per 2,000 sq ft house, etc., etc..... Just look at the above math & tell me if the net result of the above is good for the socioeconomic state of any....err....state inn the union. (it ain't good for California, I can promise you that much)
 
Geosurface said:
Well actually, I spent 31 of my 32 years being a complete racial egalitarian and self-described "hard left liberal", voted Gore, Kerry, Obama. My primary complaint about Obama was he wasn't liberal enough, and the public option was necessary, that Obamacare was a lame shell of what it should've been.

It's only been in the last year that I have changed my tune on some of this stuff.

From my perspective, that was what constituted "growing up"

Generally, growing up coincides with the harsher truths, the shit we'd rather not be true, but is. The stuff that has some nasty, nasty implications.

Rather than growing up meaning you start to realize how really the world is a big fairy tale and everyone's exactly equal and none of the demographic shifts hold ANY sort of threat to civilization or women's rights or gay rights at all! (I feel those two things in particular are heavily threatened, for instance, in Europe by Muslim influx)
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Of course.

No one is born with feelings of racial and/or cultural superiority, rather these prejudices need to be learned.
 
redgtxdi said:
You missed it again so I'm just gonna type it myself in the most specific context.

#1. Between the mid 80's and 2005 Cali population went up by 10,000,000 people

#2. During that same period, those receiving Medicaid increased by 7,000,000

Now here's the kicker------

#3. Also during that same period tax filers paying income taxes rose by only 150,000!!!

Forget the prison crap, the unlicensed, uninsured illegals killing people on the roads, EASL & other educational burdens, 15 people & 12 cars per 2,000 sq ft house, etc., etc..... Just look at the above math & tell me if the net result of the above is good for the socioeconomic state of any....err....state inn the union. (it ain't good for California, I can promise you that much)
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Your numbers come from where, exactly?
 
redgtxdi said:
Incorrect. Do the math again. This time, don't forget to execute comprehension of the grammatical in the original statement. Not per capita.......per "whole friggin country"!!
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Presented with fact vs your own opinion, you just dig in, believe even more ardently. It's a standard feature of Teahadist mentality.

This bodes ill for a democracy, because most voters — the people making decisions about how the country runs — aren’t blank slates. They already have beliefs, and a set of facts lodged in their minds. The problem is that sometimes the things they think they know are objectively, provably false. And in the presence of the correct information, such people react very, very differently than the merely uninformed. Instead of changing their minds to reflect the correct information, they can entrench themselves even deeper.

“The general idea is that it’s absolutely threatening to admit you’re wrong,” says political scientist Brendan Nyhan, the lead researcher on the Michigan study. The phenomenon — known as “backfire” — is “a natural defense mechanism to avoid that cognitive dissonance.”
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http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/articles/2010/07/11/how_facts_backfire/
 
i believe last year we had minority babies surpass white babies for the first time ever. we are doooooooooooomed.
 
Wreckem said:
What do you mean by legal?

They are technically not legal. Parents can't piggy back permanent resident status off their children who are US citizens until the children are 21. They are still technically illegal and cannot legally work in the US. They just are unlikely to be deported. The only benefits they get are those legally granted to their US citizen child.
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No he just meant the kids are legal, which is true.

For some reason THAT law gets enforced.
 
Jhhnn said:
Presented with fact vs your own opinion, you just dig in, believe even more ardently. It's a standard feature of Teahadist mentality.
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Uhhhhh....no. We both presented fact. (you and I). You simply had some reading comprehension problem the first time you tried to call me incorrect and twisted the data from "1/3 of the country's welfare recipients" to "per capita". (fail)

Those of us with accurate reading comprehension skills understood how you fubar'd your complaint the first time I corrected you.

We still have 1/3 of the country's welfare recipients and only 12% of the country's population...... http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100...7277242682364690.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop
 
Dude they are poor. Come here literally with clothes on their backs some owing ten thousand dollars to a coyote or else something will happen to their family back home. poor area everywhere look bad and desperate ppl do desperate things. Sounds pretty universal and just like everyone else. What else is new?

However they will be/are just like everyone else. People are people man. You'll have some parents who drive thier children some who dont care. Some who commit crime some who will be cops. Some who will open a nice Mexican restaurant and pay taxes some who will live off tax payer and so on.

I think it's constructive to note the differences you point out are really similarities.
 
techs said:
The Irish, Germans, Jews, etc didn't take over America. They joined it.
Same thing the Latinos are doing.
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Uh no,

A good number of mexicans think Texas and parts of california belong to Mexico.

They are not here to join, they are here to take back.
 
Texashiker said:
Uh no,

A good number of mexicans think Texas and parts of california belong to Mexico.

They are not here to join, they are here to take back.
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Mexican tea party lolz. See more differences u point out more we are the same.
 
no. They are historically and fundamentally conservative and when they figure out the ruse the democrat party played on them there will be hell to pay.
 
Zebo said:
Mexican tea party lolz. See more differences u point out more we are the same.
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Screen shot I grabbed from the LA times,

Notice how the counties of border states mostly voted for obama.

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