That twinmos memory is capable of running 2-2-2 @ 250 fsb or so...
It is runs this at a higher voltage than normal memory, which the DFI board is capable of providing. It is similiar to OCZ VX that is reviewed here at anand. This stuff is great for overclocking. It doesnt really sound like you are an avid overclocker though, hence that is why I recommended the MSI board.
If you really want the DFI, just pick one of those memories listed on the supported memory page I linked too. You have a wide variety to choose from, including value ram.
It is runs this at a higher voltage than normal memory, which the DFI board is capable of providing. It is similiar to OCZ VX that is reviewed here at anand. This stuff is great for overclocking. It doesnt really sound like you are an avid overclocker though, hence that is why I recommended the MSI board.
If you really want the DFI, just pick one of those memories listed on the supported memory page I linked too. You have a wide variety to choose from, including value ram.
No you are supposed to run it at ~3.3V to reach 250htt at 2-2-2. The only thing is that the twinmos is not guaranteed to run at the higher voltage. While this OCZ is guaranteed to run at the higher voltage. You pay more for it though.
UTT memory requires a burn in period and tweaking of various bios settings to work properly. You may even need active cooling to get the most out of them. You don't have to overvolt them though. They will work fine at 2.6V 2.5-3-3 just like regular value.
UTT memory requires a burn in period and tweaking of various bios settings to work properly. You may even need active cooling to get the most out of them. You don't have to overvolt them though. They will work fine at 2.6V 2.5-3-3 just like regular value.
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Here are TWO Improtant threads on the motherboard you are talking about.
[*] Anandtech Thread #1
[*] Anandtech Thread #2
[*] Anandtech Thread #1
[*] Anandtech Thread #2
The OCZ is a safer bet, but it still has all the issue of overvolting, namely heat and instability at first. After a burn in period of a week or so, they *should* be able to get to a higher htt with the tight timings. This memory is not for the timid. But again, you don't have to overvolt them. Just run it at stock voltage and timings and it will work just like regular value. If you want to overvolt to increase performance though, you have the option.
Do not buy the Corsair VS if you are into overclocking. Mine ran just fine at stock at 1T, but it has had myriad problems with overclocking. No divider will work for me at 1T--even if the memory is running at well less than its rated speed! It is VERY quirky on the DFI board--I'm running a divider and 2T, and while the processor is oc'd okay, the memory has proven a disappointment--esp. since I bought it back when it was $120 and not $80 like it is now.
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OP, stay away from vx/utt ram. it "needs" active cooling for it to shine because you need to punch so many volts through it.
if you want to run 1:1 the best bet is the ocz rev2. if you want to use a divider go through the dfi.street memory thread and pick one. mushkies work well. all depends on your budget.
but vx is not for everyday use imo. the only spec sheet i saw from a munufacturer of the vx/utt/ch5 whatever you want to call it says its rated at 2.6v, everything else comes from ocz. which is fine because they support their products well, i love ocz, but if you are looking for everyday use you don't want your sticks spending 3 weeks in rma process.
if you want to run 1:1 the best bet is the ocz rev2. if you want to use a divider go through the dfi.street memory thread and pick one. mushkies work well. all depends on your budget.
but vx is not for everyday use imo. the only spec sheet i saw from a munufacturer of the vx/utt/ch5 whatever you want to call it says its rated at 2.6v, everything else comes from ocz. which is fine because they support their products well, i love ocz, but if you are looking for everyday use you don't want your sticks spending 3 weeks in rma process.
Well I've heard alot of ppl using it just fine. I know a couple ppl on dfi-street are DFI techs and don't recommend it because some ppl are having problems. But maybe they haven't tested it them selfs? Granted its not good for o/cing but it should run fine at stock settings. I don't recall recommending him to get the memory but if he is on a budget and can save $20-40+ by getting the C:VS then I would. But it's entirely up to him.
Mine was up in 20 min out of the box, no tweaking...have not tried to OC it yet, may not actually. I did have problems with the condition of the board on the first shipment, but not its functionality. It was extremely easy to set up and everything installed very smoothly.
2x512MB Corsair VS here, and it's working flawlessly. I also am a little puzzled by this talk of this board being so incredibly hard to tweak... unless I'm just lucky, mine booted right up and was running totally stable immediately. The only problem I ran into was needing to disable the onboard USB when first entering the XP setup; for some reason it was causing a hang. Turn it back on right after the first reboot, and then you're good to go.
Totally stable at stock speeds (3000+, 1.8ghz), totally stable overclocked to 2.38GHZ with stock cooling, and now totally stable and REALLY cool at 2.42GHZ with an XP-90.
I wholeheartedly recommend this board. It's been more stable (and FUN to use!) than all of my previous Asus and Abit boards.
And if/when you want to start tweaking BIOS options for performance, with a bit of research required, there are endless options with this board.
I'm using Corsair VS and while I'd agree with the recommendation not to buy it if you can just buy something equally cheap, it's not the case that this RAM will not work. Seems fairly uncommon for there to be big problems with it, though I have heard of some.
Mine is working fine in 1T with a divider, although it maxes out around 210mhz. You sure your voltages aren't a problem?
Sigh, everyone keeps quoting that. I know it may work, but it is not recomended. I will edit the post.
so, would you recommend the dfi board and the twinmos value ram, the ocz 100 dollar ram, or the msi k8n platinum and corsair vs?
dfi and VS is what i went. But if you want to really sure you get it up and running, you can try the twinmos. I just don't trust "twinmos" much.
Are you planning on pushing your OC? If so then get the DFI.
Are you planning on not OC or a more modest OC? If so, get the MSI.
If you get the MSI, you can get Corsair VS. I have already answered what kind of ram to get with the DFI upthread.
I am torn between these 2 boards too. One of the hold up for me not to get the MSI is the fan for the chipset being loud. Is it improved with with the new batch or they are still the same?
To answer your original question, this is a great mobo if you want to learn more than you ever wanted to know about RAM tweaking. Also, many of my stability and booting issues were taken care of with the most recent 618-1 BIOS update. My XMS is OK at 3:4 or 7:10 divider, but you don't want to run XMS with more than 2.8v or so because unlike other mfr's, it tends to be less stable at higher voltages. Honestly, I'd suggest trying to find some cheapo PC4000 (that will actually do PC4000) and get a 3200+ venice at least. My 3000+ is cool, but I'd love to have an extra multiplier notch...
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