is suicide sinful?

Descartes

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So, you're attempting to identify something as sinful, but you're willing to let people determine if it is so? Interesting.
 

waggy

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depends on what religion? In some it is a sin and you go to Hell. In others its ok.
 

Turfzilla

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This is a pretty dumb post. If your interested read it in the bible.

Exodus 20 and Deuteronomy 5
Numbers 11:12-15
Chronicles 10:3-7
 

DingDingDao

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Originally posted by: Turfzilla
This is a pretty dumb post. If your interested read it in the bible.

Exodus 20 and Deuteronomy 5
Numbers 11:12-15
Chronicles 10:3-7

Depends on who you talk to. I think that many of the suicide bombers in Israel or the Middle East believe that they will go to heaven for sacrificing their lives.

I'm not saying they're right, but everyone has their own opinion. Me, I just think it's freaking stupid, regardless of where you end up afterwards.
 

Lonyo

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Suicide = killing (yourself)
Killing = bad (according to most religious doctrine, if not practice (extremist muslims for example)).
Thus suicide = bad.
 

Gurck

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Don't see any option for how I feel. Can't be sinful or not when one doesn't believe in a higher power, and I don't think it's stupid at all.
 

Ameesh

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Originally posted by: Descartes
So, you're attempting to identify something as sinful, but you're willing to let people determine if it is so? Interesting.

i agree, its a bit silly, either you belive in the concept of sin and therfore you belive in a god that has established what is sin and what isnt. or you dont belive in all that nonsense. stick to one or the other.
 

Rob9874

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Please don't reply with atheistic responses. But my wife's brother committed suicide in 1995. At the funeral, some lady actually came up and said, "It's so sad that this had to happen. And what makes it worse is that he can't get into Heaven." What a horrible thing to say to someone who just lost a loved one.
 

biostud

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Nope, not sinfull (even if I believed in god), if any person should be forgiven it is a person who have lost the love of living.
 

Shawn

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Who has that sig? Hurting others is sinful, hurting yourself it not. Just stupid.
 

CrazyHelloDeli

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Sinful? Who the hell knows...

Ive contemplated suicide a few times in my life, but eventually came to the conclusion that its a very mean and hurtful act. If you kill yourself you are putting huge ammounts of hurt and pain onto others who dont deserve it(Family, friends, etc...). The selfish disregard for the effect of suicide on others is worse than the act itself IMO. If I had no family or friends or anyone that wouldnt be negativly affected by my killing myself, I probably would do it.
 

Knarkarplanka

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There´s nothing sinful in suicide, it depends on the situation but in almost every case the one who commits suicide has got a good reason for doing so.
Some examples: Harakiri that the samurais commit because of shame(?); end suffering; to save another persons life; because you are depressed for some reason; ect.

And you who says it´s cowardly to commit suicide, how come?
Sure, the one who does it because he/she is depressed could get help in another way, but during a mental breakdown, when you feel nobody can help you, nobody cares about you, nothing´s gonna make things better, I can understans why people commits suicide. And it´s nothing wrong with the person doing so, it´s wrong somewhere in the persons surroundings, and if you can fix that before the person commits suicide, you´d probably make sure he/she regaines the will to live.

Edit: There´s no such thing as a sinful deed. There´s only good, bad and selfish deeds, and selfish deeds doesn´t neccesary have to be bad deeds.
We´ll get neither to heaven, nor to hell, so why care about every deed you make, you can´t make everyone happy can you?, so just live your life and don´t care so much about the rest of the world.
Peace out!
 

Sophia

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For those that agree it is sinful, is it always sinful?

What about a soldier who throws himself on a grenade and saves the lives of a half dozen of his comrades?

What of those who are mentally ill? If depression is shown to have a physical, biochemical basis in the brain that is outside of one's control, are the suicidally depressed any more culpable than someone that dies of cancer, for example?