Is spreading misinformation a violation of the TOS?

[SickBeast]

I'm just wondering if posting false information knowingly is a violation of the TOS here.

For example, are people allowed to say that one videocard is faster than another videocard, when in fact that is not the case?

I have a feeling that we have at least 3 or 4 Nvidia employees in the Video forum trolling and posting false information about competing products.

If you look at this thread around the 65th post, you will see Wreckage posting false information, which caused at least 5 people to refute him and completely de-rail the thread

The OP posted that his question was answered and this has degenerated into a rehash of the video argument, which is what always happens. Take it back to video.

Moderator allisolm

 

[olds]

Why don't you do the leg work and read the TOS instead of coming here and trolling?
If you did read the TOS, quote the part you are talking about.

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Why don't you do the leg work and read the TOS instead of coming here and trolling?
If you did read the TOS, quote the part you are talking about.

I fail to see how my post could be construed as trolling when I have a legitimate complaint.

Here's the relevant quote from the TOS:

You agree that you will not use our Forums to post any material, or links to any material, which is knowingly false and/or defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise violative of any law.

Does this mean that they have grounds to ban Wreckage? IMO the Video forum would be much better without him.

 

[OCGuy]

Wow, Rollo has been banned, so now the ATi team is going after another person who prefers nV, Wreckage.

I fear this is the door that was opened with banning nRollo. Anyone who recommends a nV card over ATi is already hammered in the Video forum, and now people expect bans.

I wish we could get a little more monitoring of the Video forum to delete posts/warn anyone that attacks a person instead of talking about what we are all there to talk about, GPUs.

Quotes like this from this thread are against TOS, and are constantly posted. It used to be against nRollo, but now that he is gone, they have moved on.

Originally posted by: MegaWorks
Guys Wreckage is known to be a jackass, I would just ignore him if I were you.

Same thread:

Originally posted by: Obsoleet

Yup, made a huge mistake banning Rollo instead of him.

Guideline #1: No trolling, flaming or personally attacking members.

 

[JJChicken]

When did Rollo get banned?

 

[BFG10K]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

I fear this is the door that was opened with banning nRollo. Anyone who recommends a nV card over ATi is already hammered in the Video forum, and now people expect bans.

I'm not sure why, given it was made very clear that nRollo was a special case and not the norm.

We don't moderate or ban people for being wrong and/or fanboys. We're not allowed to. It's against the rules of being a mod, and against the rules of the forum. If we tried to, we?d get disciplined by the other mods and/or by Derek.

I wish we could get a little more monitoring of the Video forum to delete posts/warn anyone that attacks a person instead of talking about what we are all there to talk about, GPUs.

I've asked Amber to check the thread because I've posted there as a regular member but she hasn't.

 

[BFG10K]

FYI - Amber has posted a warning in the thread to stay on topic.

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: BFG10K
FYI - Amber has posted a warning in the thread to stay on topic.

So am I to understand that you're better off posting false information on these boards than you are to call someone out for it? :Q

If that's really the policy on here it makes absolutely no sense IMO, and it explains the large number of NV trolls in the Video forum and why they have not been banned.

 

[CrazyLazy]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: MegaWorks
Guys Wreckage is known to be a jackass, I would just ignore him if I were you.

Same thread:

Originally posted by: Obsoleet

Yup, made a huge mistake banning Rollo instead of him.

Guideline #1: No trolling, flaming or personally attacking members.

C'mon if that was actually enforced there would be no P&N forum.

 

[Gillbot]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
I wish we could get a little more monitoring of the Video forum to delete posts/warn anyone that attacks a person instead of talking about what we are all there to talk about, GPUs.

I wish the posters in video would be decent enough people as to NOT need constant babysitting, but that's just me.

Gillbot,
Posting as a member

 

[bsobel]

I fail to see how my post could be construed as trolling when I have a legitimate complaint.

It could be because your a troll.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: bsobel

I fail to see how my post could be construed as trolling when I have a legitimate complaint.

It could be because your a troll.

Are you posting as a moderator or as a member?

When did Rollo get banned?

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2274482&enterthread=y

I wish the posters in video would be decent enough people as to NOT need constant babysitting, but that's just me.

What is the difference between Video and P&N?

C'mon if that was actually enforced there would be no P&N forum.

 

[bsobel]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: bsobel

I fail to see how my post could be construed as trolling when I have a legitimate complaint.

It could be because your a troll.

Are you posting as a moderator or as a member?

Member

 

[AmberClad]

Originally posted by: apoppin

I wish the posters in video would be decent enough people as to NOT need constant babysitting, but that's just me.

What is the difference between Video and P&N?

C'mon if that was actually enforced there would be no P&N forum.

Are you being rhetorical (given that you were a mod briefly at one point)? Or seriously asking? It's hard to tell with you sometimes.

The guidelines are stickied at the top of this very forum. It's stated at least twice that the social forums (P&N among them) are held to a different standard.

 

[DerekWilson]

knowingly posting false information is a bannable offense. proving the knowingly part is tough... unless you have documentation of someone acknowledging the truthfulness of something and then later posting information that contradicts this.

being oblivious, wrong, obstinate, stupid, relentless, and/or any of a host of other properties common to many a fanboi are not grounds for banning.

so ... yes, knowingly posting false information is against TOS and bannable. being wrong is not. proving the dissemination of information that is knowingly false is very hard and requires much evidence of previous knowledge and current intent. it's not as simple as it sounds and it is not something we throw around lightly.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: AmberClad

Originally posted by: apoppin

I wish the posters in video would be decent enough people as to NOT need constant babysitting, but that's just me.

What is the difference between Video and P&N?

C'mon if that was actually enforced there would be no P&N forum.

Are you being rhetorical (given that you were a mod briefly at one point)? Or seriously asking? It's hard to tell with you sometimes.

The guidelines are stickied at the top of this very forum. It's stated at least twice that the social forums (P&N among them) are held to a different standard.

Both actually. For a time, Video was completely unmoderated while P&N always was. For awhile it was much "hotter" in Video than in P&N as i used to post in both forums and i got used to the rough and tumble there. Moderating Video together with Keys took some real working together and i know what you mods put up with.

Wishing for passionate forum posters to not require some "babysitting" - at either P&N or Video - appears to me to be somewhat unrealistic with the way the forums are set up and moderated. Basically the guidelines are quite similar for both tech and social forums and actually telling or finding the "differences" evenly and pragmatically applied might be difficult for the average member to discern, i think.

it seems to me that the OP thinks that someone is deliberately and knowingly spreading false information or he would not post this. But who can discern motive and intentions of someone elses heart ?

 

[lupi]

Originally posted by: apoppin

When did Rollo get banned?

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2274482&enterthread=y

wow, talk about a pussy assed move. Good thing as shown by continued post like by the OP that doing that really solved some misguided situation.

 

[SickBeast]

n/m

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: DerekWilson
knowingly posting false information is a bannable offense. proving the knowingly part is tough... unless you have documentation of someone acknowledging the truthfulness of something and then later posting information that contradicts this.

being oblivious, wrong, obstinate, stupid, relentless, and/or any of a host of other properties common to many a fanboi are not grounds for banning.

so ... yes, knowingly posting false information is against TOS and bannable. being wrong is not. proving the dissemination of information that is knowingly false is very hard and requires much evidence of previous knowledge and current intent. it's not as simple as it sounds and it is not something we throw around lightly.

I appreciate your response here.

I would suggest that if you look at Wreckage's posting history, he has repeatedly posted false information and really and truly has probably posted more NV marketing material than Rollo did more recently.

Heck, you're a graphics editor. Do you think a 4870 is a "good match" for a 260+? Wreckage doesn't. He also thinks that a 4890 will somehow be "competitive" with the 260+ seeing as he thinks the current 4870 is not. :Q

Thanks.

:beer:

 

[JJChicken]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: bsobel

I fail to see how my post could be construed as trolling when I have a legitimate complaint.

It could be because your a troll.

Are you posting as a moderator or as a member?

When did Rollo get banned?

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2274482&enterthread=y

I wish the posters in video would be decent enough people as to NOT need constant babysitting, but that's just me.

What is the difference between Video and P&N?

C'mon if that was actually enforced there would be no P&N forum.

Thanks

 

[Wreckage]

Originally posted by: SickBeast
Do you think a 4870 is a "good match" for a 260+? Wreckage doesn't.

So you think I should be banned based on my opinion of a video card?

I suppose we should also ban the sites I used to back up my statements. Ban the benchmarks that support my statements, etc.

In fact if anyone ever disagrees with you they should also be banned.

:roll:

You have serious issues, that I'm betting extend far beyond this forum.

 

[Creig]

Originally posted by: Wreckage

Originally posted by: SickBeast
Do you think a 4870 is a "good match" for a 260+? Wreckage doesn't.

So you think I should be banned based on my opinion of a video card?

I suppose we should also ban the sites I used to back up my statements. Ban the benchmarks that support my statements, etc.

In fact if anyone ever disagrees with you they should also be banned.

:roll:

You have serious issues, that I'm betting extend far beyond this forum.

It was the manner in which you handled yourself in that thread that ruffled peoples feathers. The vast majority of benchmarks do currently place the 4870 and 260+ at approximately the same overall level of performance. So coming out with:

Originally posted by: Wreckage
The 4890 will probably be a good match against a 260+ which you can buy for under $199.

Originally posted by: Wreckage
So why wait for a $300+ card which probably won't offer much more?

Originally posted by: Wreckage
You are right. After listening to your rant, the 4890 won't be such a good competitor since it will cost far more than it will offer in performance.

was borderline flamebait in a thread devoted to discussing the possible specs of an upcoming ATI video card.

You've been around here long enough to know exactly what sort of reaction you'd get by posting those comments in that particular thread.

And you got it.

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: Wreckage

Originally posted by: SickBeast
Do you think a 4870 is a "good match" for a 260+? Wreckage doesn't.

So you think I should be banned based on my opinion of a video card?

I suppose we should also ban the sites I used to back up my statements. Ban the benchmarks that support my statements, etc.

In fact if anyone ever disagrees with you they should also be banned.

:roll:

You have serious issues, that I'm betting extend far beyond this forum.

Your websites are fine. It's your asinine opinion that the 4870 and 260+ are somehow worlds apart that is the problem. Like I said before, if an overclocked 260+ beats a stock 4870, then chances are they will at the very least be equal performers when both are overclocked.

I'm tired of your rhetoric at this point, as are countless others in the video forum as is evident by Creig's post along with a slew of others in the thread in Video I linked to here.

You can resort to personal attacks if you want. You're just trying to distract people from the fact that you are more than likely affiliated with NV and should suffer the same fate as Rollo.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

I fear this is the door that was opened with banning nRollo. Anyone who recommends a nV card over ATi is already hammered in the Video forum, and now people expect bans.

Originally posted by: SickBeast

You're just trying to distract people from the fact that you are more than likely affiliated with NV and should suffer the same fate as Rollo.

I never thought my own prophecy would come true in the exact same thread I made it in.

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

I fear this is the door that was opened with banning nRollo. Anyone who recommends a nV card over ATi is already hammered in the Video forum, and now people expect bans.

Originally posted by: SickBeast

You're just trying to distract people from the fact that you are more than likely affiliated with NV and should suffer the same fate as Rollo.

I never thought my own prophecy would come true in the exact same thread I made it in.

It's not a matter of recommending NV over AMD. It's a matter of spreading false information, and blindly recommending one brand over the other dispite legitimate reasons not to.

BTW, how did you obtain your two 280GTX cards?