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Is Saving Private Ryan the finest war film ever created?

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Originally posted by: TheWart
Some WWII movies I really enjoyed:


SPR
BoB (yea, yea, not a movie, whatever)
Great Escape
Bridge over River Kwai(sp?)
Longest Day
Dirty Dozen

Oh, and btw, BHD was actually very close to the book written by Mark Bowden, which itself is the definitive edition...apparently Bowden has just edited, or been involved in with a new book on BHD which compiles individual experiences of that day in a single book. The title escapes my memory, but I saw it at Borders.

prolly more that I can't remember...

Have you watched Kelly's Heroes? GREAT WWII flick with Clint Eastwood and Donald Sutherland.
 
BOB is better, but its also 4x longer.

I think I watched the worst war movie ever the other night:

The Halls of Montezuma

Although this movie was really bad (script, acting, cinematography all sucked) it did have a good amount of archived footage from the southsea campaign which provided some interesting viewing every now and then.
 
What, no love for Stripes!? 🙁 😛


In no particular order, my favorite are:

SPR
Full Metal Jacket
Where Eagles Dare
Braveheart (would that be considered a war movie? Just a different era)



Oh, and I liked Dirty Dozen, though someone else said it was crap.
 
Originally posted by: HomeBrewerDude
BOB is better, but its also 4x longer.

I think I watched the worst war movie ever the other night:

The Halls of Montezuma

Although this movie was really bad (script, acting, cinematography all sucked) it did have a good amount of archived footage from the southsea campaign which provided some interesting viewing every now and then.

Every time I see a movie with a lot of stock footage in it, I laugh. Why? Because they used that as a gag in MST3000. A guy runs outside to see what is flying over. They cut to some stock footage of a formation of bombers, then the guy runs back inside and the bot's quipped, "OMG! There's a whole lot of stock footage out there!"

I know, lame, but it sticks with me now. 😀
 
No one has mentioned Memphis Belle yet-one of the few realistic aviation movies made.

Or Glory-excellent Civil War movie.

Or some of the older stuff, like All Quiet on the Western Front (1930). Das Boot is still my favorite war film, though.

To those of you who hated A Thin Red Line-read the original book, its very compelling. Light years better than the movie, its a classic. Saving Private Ryan was good, but in the end it was too much "Speilberg" for me-amazing special effects and filming surrounding a basically sugar coated story.
 
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: HomeBrewerDude
BOB is better, but its also 4x longer.

I think I watched the worst war movie ever the other night:

The Halls of Montezuma

Although this movie was really bad (script, acting, cinematography all sucked) it did have a good amount of archived footage from the southsea campaign which provided some interesting viewing every now and then.

Every time I see a movie with a lot of stock footage in it, I laugh. Why? Because they used that as a gag in MST3000. A guy runs outside to see what is flying over. They cut to some stock footage of a formation of bombers, then the guy runs back inside and the bot's quipped, "OMG! There's a whole lot of stock footage out there!"

I know, lame, but it sticks with me now. 😀

Yeah, I know what you mean. At first I was amazed by the laziness of Montezuma, I mean, really, the footage of the landing crafts in a holding pattern really isn't worth showing 3 times for a total of 30 seconds...especially since the craft shown are not likely to be the actual craft from the battle depicted. But then I started thinking that its actually kind of cool from historical perspective, and from a mixed media perspective that they would do that. Of course they did it, because they couldn't really afford any other way of producing that type of scene, and now its only interesting because the movie and footage are so old.
 
Schindler's List is by far the best WW2 flick I've seen. It's not exactly a war film but very closely related.
 
Originally posted by: Thump553
No one has mentioned Memphis Belle yet-one of the few realistic aviation movies made.

Or Glory-excellent Civil War movie.

Or some of the older stuff, like All Quiet on the Western Front (1930). Das Boot is still my favorite war film, though.

To those of you who hated A Thin Red Line-read the original book, its very compelling. Light years better than the movie, its a classic. Saving Private Ryan was good, but in the end it was too much "Speilberg" for me-amazing special effects and filming surrounding a basically sugar coated story.

I disagree strongly. It is a very good book but I like the movie a LOT more.
 
Originally posted by: AmusedHave you watched Kelly's Heroes? GREAT WWII flick with Clint Eastwood and Donald Sutherland.

omg that movie was terrible. "hey man, we have these tanks, we're just chillin and smokin, sure we'll go help you get that gold".
 
Originally posted by: brigden

Is Saving Private Ryan the finest war film ever created?

It's certainly up there. There is at least 2 scenes that stick with me very much like Midway and Bridge Over River Kwai.
 
Whether SPR is the finest war film ever created is a subjective opinion, as seen in the thread.

That being said, however, no experience helped me realize the great sacrifice that my grandfathers - and every other soldier of that generation - made while fighting in World War II more than the first time I saw Saving Private Ryan. That movie changed my perspective on life in so many ways that I feel that, for me, it IS the finest war film ever created. I'm now a history buff - not just a WWII buff - because of that movie.

I also hold Apocalypse Now in high regard, too. It might be better than SPR, but it didn't affect me as personally as SPR did.

Finally, despite your feelings about SPR, you have to admit it should have won the Oscar instead of Shakespeare in Love. Blecch.
 
Originally posted by: SaltBoy
Whether SPR is the finest war film ever created is a subjective opinion, as seen in the thread.

That being said, however, no experience helped me realize the great sacrifice that my grandfathers - and every other soldier of that generation - made while fighting in World War II more than the first time I saw Saving Private Ryan. That movie changed my perspective on life in so many ways that I feel that, for me, it IS the finest war film ever created. I'm now a history buff - not just a WWII buff - because of that movie.

I also hold Apocalypse Now in high regard, too. It might be better than SPR, but it didn't affect me as personally as SPR did.

Finally, despite your feelings about SPR, you have to admit it should have won the Oscar instead of Shakespeare in Love. Blecch.

Ah... thank god this is not imdb. I said the same basic argument there and some guy said that shakespeare in love is one of the best movies ever made, and is without a doubt the best screenplay ever written. After laughing for several minutes I demanded that he elaborate, which he did by noting that it has a lot of "references". Which is interesting, because a lot of people don't ascribe greatness to a movie or screenplay which is great only because of the way it references other things...

anyway that was a long side note there.
 
Originally posted by: Yossarian
Originally posted by: AmusedHave you watched Kelly's Heroes? GREAT WWII flick with Clint Eastwood and Donald Sutherland.

omg that movie was terrible. "hey man, we have these tanks, we're just chillin and smokin, sure we'll go help you get that gold".

No it wasn't. It was hilarious.

Give it a try with an open mind. Did you watch the whole thing? Watch it in widescreen, too. This is one movie where you miss a LOT of subtle humor if you see it in pan and scan.
 
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: DannyBoy
IMO We were soldiers was a much better movie.

It could have been a great movie if it wasn't so gawd damn sappy.

True, however with the way the movie was made for some reason it really made me feel as if I was there...

I don't know TBH, it was just a very well filmed movie and I think the sound & lighting engineers should get a lot of praise for it.

Bah I'm babbling.
 
Originally posted by: DannyBoy
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: DannyBoy
IMO We were soldiers was a much better movie.

It could have been a great movie if it wasn't so gawd damn sappy.

True, however with the way the movie was made for some reason it really made me feel as if I was there...

I don't know TBH, it was just a very well filmed movie and I think the sound & lighting engineers should get a lot of praise for it.

Bah I'm babbling.

Oh no, I agree. Like I said before, WWS has some of the best battle scenes of any war movie. I believe they rival SPR and BoB. It's just the sappiness that ruins the film.
 
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