Is Rush Limbaugh still relevant?

[nehalem256]

I was talking about more substance and style rather than popularity.

I accept your challenge.

Rush Limbaugh calls a liberal activist a slut for wanting her college to give her free BC.

The Washington State AG wants to destroy the business of an old lady because she will not support Same-Sex marriage.

You tell me which one is worse

Liberals do not need commentators to "bully" their political enemies. They just have government officials do it. As another example see the IRS-Tea Party issue.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

I accept your challenge.

Rush Limbaugh calls a liberal activist a slut for wanting her college to give her free BC.

The Washington State AG wants to destroy the business of an old lady because she will not support Same-Sex marriage.

You tell me which one is worse

Liberals do not need commentators to "bully" their political enemies. They just have government officials do it. As another example see the IRS-Tea Party issue.

You may not like anti-discrimination laws, but they are laws, and the woman in Washington who was denying business to a same-sex couple that she offered to heterosexual couples was violating state law. Rush Limbaugh was within his rights to call Sandra Fluke a slut on the air, but his point was illogical at best and downright slanderous at worst, so I'm going to say that his was the "worse" of two perfectly legal acts.

But your example doesn't even make sense. How are the actions of the Washington Attorney General enforcing his state's laws even remotely comparable to the bombastic rhetoric of a political pundit? They aren't comparable on substance and they aren't comparable on style, and those are the only two qualifications asked for by the poster you responded to.

 

[Charles Kozierok]

Phokus didn't ask for a comparison of popularity. He threw Ann Coulter in there. There are plenty on thew left more popular than Ann Coulter.

I was responding to this:

Are you serious?

I mean, are you really serious? There's no one on the liberal side like Rush?

There are any number. Define SPECIFICALLY what you think doesn't exist on the liberal side and I will find the perfect match for you.

Do try to keep up.

I doubt I will get an answer anyway, since it's rather obvious that there's nothing on the left comparable to the role played by people like Limbaugh and Hannity.

 

[Oldgamer]

Rush is only relevant to a small minority group of people, mostly those older white males who are in their late 50s to late 60s, and those who are fanatical christians. It has already been reported that he is rapidly losing advertising dollars on his shows and the protests of people who think he has crossed the line one too many times with his digusting talk has put a great deal of pressure on some companies to not have their adverts put on during his show.

I think those like some (not all) republicans like to use him, because he says what they know they can't say openly (they use him, in otherwords) and as long as he is still around to be used like that he will remain relevant to those who can use him. I think in time though he will become a stain on the fabric of history and will be remembered as just that.

 

[Matt1970]

I was responding to this:



Do try to keep up.

I doubt I will get an answer anyway, since it's rather obvious that there's nothing on the left comparable to the role played by people like Limbaugh and Hannity.

It wasn't about popularity as the comparison you tried to make showed. Phokus listed three people on the right. Even Phokus said: "I was talking about more substance and style rather than popularity."

 

[TerryMathews]

Why don't you tell me who, on the left, is Rush Limbaugh's, Mark Levin's, Ann Coulter's equivalent. The only hack is you.

It's amazing that someone like Frank Luntz could have so much more self awareness than the fucking bitch idiot conservative morons here on ATPN. There IS no leftwing version of these clowns.

Jesse Jackson. Al Sharpton. Piers Morgan.

I don't follow liberal community organizers much, let me go troll a liberal coworker and I'll get back to you. I know there's an op-ed writer that is as crazy as they come.

Cynthia Tucker was who I was thinking of.

 

[TerryMathews]

I was responding to this:



Do try to keep up.

I doubt I will get an answer anyway, since it's rather obvious that there's nothing on the left comparable to the role played by people like Limbaugh and Hannity.

Sorry bub, gave you and phokus an answer even though he was too much of a pussy to lay out specifics.

I anticipate a goal post move in 3...2...1

 

[nehalem256]

You may not like anti-discrimination laws, but they are laws, and the woman in Washington who was denying business to a same-sex couple that she offered to heterosexual couples was violating state law. Rush Limbaugh was within his rights to call Sandra Fluke a slut on the air, but his point was illogical at best and downright slanderous at worst, so I'm going to say that his was the "worse" of two perfectly legal acts.

And if you pass a law to bully people into supporting your beliefs does that mean you are not bullying them?

But your example doesn't even make sense. How are the actions of the Washington Attorney General enforcing his state's laws even remotely comparable to the bombastic rhetoric of a political pundit? They aren't comparable on substance and they aren't comparable on style, and those are the only two qualifications asked for by the poster you responded to.

They aren't comparable. Which is my point. Having a guy with the power of state bully you is far worse than having some radio blowhard bully you.

My point was that the left does not people on the radio to do it, because they just use the power of the state.

 

[TerryMathews]

And if you pass a law to bully people into supporting your beliefs does that mean you are not bullying them?



They aren't comparable. Which is my point. Having a guy with the power of state bully you is far worse than having some radio blowhard bully you.

My point was that the left does not people on the radio to do it, because they just use the power of the state.

Don't even concede that. The left has some crazies as well. Maybe they don't have quite the same coverage as Rush and Hannity, but phokus and CK were clear that they were interested in substance, not viewership.

Also, I'd like to throw Melissa Harris Perry into the ring for her belief that the community should have a say in how you raise your kids.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I predict Rush retires after next election cycle & is replaced by Ms Palin. Advertisers will find her more friendly but equally whacky. Its also what she wants to do, have people listen to her speak and make money.

 

[Charles Kozierok]

Jesse Jackson. Al Sharpton. Piers Morgan.

You consider these equivalent to Rush Limbaugh?

Er, okay. If you didn't want to accept my challenge, you could have just said so, rather than embarrass yourself with that.

 

[cubby1223]

I was responding to this:



Do try to keep up.

I doubt I will get an answer anyway, since it's rather obvious that there's nothing on the left comparable to the role played by people like Limbaugh and Hannity.

Drop the fucking attitude you have, this is why your Debate Club blows.

If you want "the left"'s equivalents of Limbaugh and Hannity, you'd get into Keith Olbermann, Ed Schultz, shit there is another guy on MSNBC I don't keep up with their lineup, who finds the stories on "the extreme right" and doesn't present it as is, he sits there in front of the camera and tells the viewers exactly how to think.

Rachel Maddow is another, yea she deals in facts and truths, but she deals in part of the whole story, rarely ever do you get the full story, and the conclusions drawn are based on a specific perspective on how the world works and how people group together and interact with each other. If you agree with that perspective, you think she is a genius. If you don't agree with that perspective, then the conclusions she makes fall apart very fast.


Some of you on "the left" build up this image of Hannity and Limbaugh as these all-powerful figures that Republicans dare never cross for fear of retaliation. It's bullshit. Yes MSNBC reports it as if it were truth. But it's bullshit. I will never entertain that argument from anyone.

 

[Phokus]

I accept your challenge.

Rush Limbaugh calls a liberal activist a slut for wanting her college to give her free BC.

The Washington State AG wants to destroy the business of an old lady because she will not support Same-Sex marriage.

You tell me which one is worse

Liberals do not need commentators to "bully" their political enemies. They just have government officials do it. As another example see the IRS-Tea Party issue.

The washington state AG is leftwing media now? I guess we should start talking about all the horrible shit Bush did, you retard. Try to keep up. You are embarrassing, just like the rest of the conservatives here.

Jesse Jackson. Al Sharpton. Piers Morgan.

I don't follow liberal community organizers much, let me go troll a liberal coworker and I'll get back to you. I know there's an op-ed writer that is as crazy as they come.

Cynthia Tucker was who I was thinking of.

See, that's why you're a fucking idiot, none of them are comparable to Limbaugh, Levin, Coulter, Savage, et all. Not in style, not in substance, and CERTAINLY not in terms of reach. These motherfuckers own the party and there have been specific incidents when someone in the GOP criticize limbaugh, for example, they have to backtrack because of the backlash from the GOP. Almost everything that comes out of the rightwing media's mouth is offensive and retarded. It's incomparable and only halfwit dipshit retard like yourself would think it's anywhere near equal. Frank Luntz can tell the truth privately: The Democrats DON'T have this problem while Republicans DO. There's no comparison.

 

[Phokus]

It wasn't about popularity as the comparison you tried to make showed. Phokus listed three people on the right. Even Phokus said: "I was talking about more substance and style rather than popularity."

Now that i think of it, popularity is also important. The left would NEVER allow a leftwing version of Limbaugh or Levin to somehow take control of their party. But you think it's all 'equal' because you are stupid as fuck.

 

[TerryMathews]

You consider these equivalent to Rush Limbaugh?

Er, okay. If you didn't want to accept my challenge, you could have just said so, rather than embarrass yourself with that.

Yes, I do. Especially Piers.

Only liberal tools believe that Rush runs the party.

True believers know Cheney is still the man behind the curtain.

 

[nehalem256]

The washington state AG is leftwing media now? I guess we should start talking about all the horrible shit Bush did, you retard. Try to keep up. You are embarrassing, just like the rest of the conservatives here.

My point was that the left does not need to bully people through the media when they can just use the government (you know the people that can legally come into your house with guns and point them at you) instead.

Because of this of course the left does not need someone like Limbaugh. They can smile politely to your face and then have the state AG attempt to destroy your business.

EDIT: Or have the IRS attack your non-profit Tea-Party group.

Try to keep up.

 

[Phokus]

My point was that the left does not need to bully people through the media when they can just use the government (you know the people that can legally come into your house with guns and point them at you) instead.

Because of this of course the left does not need someone like Limbaugh. They can smile politely to your face and then have the state AG attempt to destroy your business.

EDIT: Or have the IRS attack your non-profit Tea-Party group.

Try to keep up.

Again, you're stupid as fuck, during Bush's term, anti-war activists were constantly being surveilled and infiltrated by law enforcement. You actually think conservatives don't abuse their power when they're in government, LMAO, how stupid are you? Try to keep up.

http://seattletimes.com/html/politics/2002865695_fbi15.html

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...ated-liberal-groups-in-order-to-monitor-them/

 

[Charles Kozierok]

Drop the fucking attitude you have, this is why your Debate Club blows.

Not true. It blows for completely different reasons.

If you want "the left"'s equivalents of Limbaugh and Hannity, you'd get into Keith Olbermann, Ed Schultz, shit there is another guy on MSNBC

That is utterly moronic. Keith Olbermann had maybe an audience of a few hundred thousand at his peak, for 1 hour a night, and IIRC is currently unemployed. Ed Schultz is a blowhard also basically with no audience. I cannot think of a single example of any Democratic politician even making reference to them, much less being influenced by them.

Maddow is smarter and may have a slightly larger audience, but comparing her to Limbaugh is ludicrous for similar reasons.

None of the people you listed has anywhere near the audience, the involvement in the political apparatus, and the control over his/her respective party that Rush Limbaugh does.

 

[Charles Kozierok]

Yes, I do. Especially Piers.

Then you're completely clueless.

Only liberal tools believe that Rush runs the party.

I never said he ran the party.

What a bunch of fucking morons you people are.

I've listened to Limbaugh since before Clinton was in office. Apparently none of you has.

 

[Matt1970]

Now that i think of it, popularity is also important. The left would NEVER allow a leftwing version of Limbaugh or Levin to somehow take control of their party. But you think it's all 'equal' because you are stupid as fuck.

So now you want to change your story and call me dumb as fuck.

 

[nehalem256]

Again, you're stupid as fuck, during Bush's term, anti-war activists were constantly being surveilled and infiltrated by law enforcement. You actually think conservatives don't abuse their power when they're in government, LMAO, how stupid are you? Try to keep up.

http://seattletimes.com/html/politics/2002865695_fbi15.html

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...ated-liberal-groups-in-order-to-monitor-them/

I was talking about using the power of the government to BULLY people/groups that disagree with you.

Do I need to explain to you why covert surveillance is not bullying?

 

[HeXen]

An opinion article by Dean Obeidallah. SO what? The man is still there isn't he?
It's not a good idea to read too much into fluff articles, they just exist to fill gaps and provide meaningless thought that doesn't really do anything else but that.

 

[Phokus]

I was talking about using the power of the government to BULLY people/groups that disagree with you.

Do I need to explain to you why covert surveillance is not bullying?

LMAO, surveilling and infiltrating pacifist anti-war groups who pose no threat whatsoever (i.e. no probable cause) IS bullying you bitch idiot retard.

We received a complaint. This is at least one angry adjective too many.

Perknose
Forum Director

 

[Phokus]

So now you want to change your story and call me dumb as fuck.

No, you've always been a dumb fuck, no change in that story

 

[monovillage]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_America_(radio_network)

Al Franken went from his show to the United States Senate, and Rachel Maddow moved her show to television on the MSNBC network.

You made one a US Senator, one of the others a television star.