You turkeys cannot get away with that claim.
You (collectively) were the first to call names.
Besides many, if not most, of your arguments about Redhat, were,... just plain wrong,.... sort of indicating that you (collectively) didn't know what you were on about.
This guys is also missing one HUGE point here. Why should any company provide seamless access to a file system to another operating system? MS only provides NTFS and FAT32 support, not access to EXT2/3, ReiserFS, XFS, et al. NOR does MS provide you with the DVD codecs out of the box. I however, will give you the one thing that MS does do and provide you with MP3 codecs. But as has been stated before, why do you NEED this capability on a server? You want that, go get Fedora or one of the other many desktop distros that do not remove this functionality.
Lets see some answers and supporting facts on YOUR opinion. I'll number them, so the are easier. Linking to your own web page doesn't count as "proof" of anything.
1. Redhat is owned by the music industry
2. MP3 support for servers is required functionality
3. support for NTFS is important for linux servers
4. DVD support is required functionality for servers
1. Redhat is owned by the music industry
2. MP3 support for servers is required functionality
3. support for NTFS is important for linux servers
4. DVD support is required functionality for servers
erikistired
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i don't even run linux, but i can clearly see you are a raving lunatic. what part of "red hat appeals to the server crowd" are you not understanding?
What part of "servers do not need a graphics environment" are you not understanding,.... you raving lunatic.
As we all know, running a graphics environment is a security risk for a server.
Yet Redhat ships with a functional graphics environment.
I am sure they must be on the verge of removing it, so that your comment will make a minimal amount of sense.
Till then, it is just evidence that you haven't got a clue what you are talking about.
Ubuntu doesn't offer any of these out of the box either. You need to go to the repositories for that, and often the multiverse.
Nothinman
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But it's also a requirement for many things like Oracle, Orion, etc so there's no way they'll be removing it any time soon. And generally as long as X isn't listening on the network, and it doesn't by default, you'll be ok.
You're the one raving about the MPAA, RIAA, RH crippling their software, etc without providing any proof so I'd say you're the one that needs beat with the cluebat.
erikistired
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wow. i point out you are a raving lunatic so you call me a...raving lunatic. just wow.
sure redhat ships with a gui. do you have to install it? no. can it be useful? i dunno i don't run linux anymore and i haven't run a linux server. when i was running redhat it wasn't mandatory to install it. people have pointed out time and time again why your points are invalid and you just scream about totally unrelated things. at this point i'm guessing you're just trolling, but who knows, maybe YOU believe the crap you spew.
Just wow man. I call you a raving lunatic, because you are one,....
You admit that you have never run a server, yet pretend you know something about all this,....
You say: sure redhat ships with a gui. do you have to install it? no. can it be useful? i dunno,....
You use this to imply that running a GUI on a server, a known security risk, is not only OK, but desirable, because redhat caters for the server market.
Yet if I say the same thing for MP3's, you get all up tight,....
I say: sure redhat ships with MP3. do you have to install it? no. can it be useful? Of course it is useful. I can't work well unless listening to my MP3s,....
and claim that Redhat can't support MP3's because they cater for the server market......
Oh,.... but that's right: redhat doesn't ship with MP3 support,.....
Note, that you have said that Redhat should supply graphics support, because it is useful to many people, even though it is security risk on a server.
Note, that you have also said that Redhat should not supply MP3 support, even though it is useful to many people because Redhat is meant to be used as a server.
You have a serious disconnect in you thinking pal.
Nothinman
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Point out a security problem with the default configuration of RH's X configuration, please.
Maybe it's just me, but when I work on a Linux server I do it from my workstation via ssh so even if the server could play MP3s it wouldn't matter because they'd be playing in the server room and I'm not there.
No **** Tonto.
Then why do you "logically challenged" folk insist that Redhat must ship with graphics support (and not MP3 support).
Why would Redhat ship MP3 support on a server system?
There is no reason for them to do so. Servers are not placed on office desks for employees to work on. Servers are placed in data centers with other servers.
And, I would like Drag to justify his claims on cutting and pasting,....
All of the Linux stuff is (essentially) original. Lots of ideas from other places of course, but not even close to cut and paste.
The closest to non-original are the Javascript movies which came from a few high quality 9/11 videos (of the collapse of the WTC buildings and the planes hitting the buildings etc) that are publicly available on the web --- but they were originally videos, not Javascript movies.
In fact the 9/11 videos came from this page
http://linux.coconia.net/gr/523.htm
which I had to salvage from Google as the original site "went missing".[/quote]
Hey NOT **** TRUE
All of the Linux stuff is (essentially) original. Lots of ideas from other places of course, but not even close to cut and paste.
The closest to non-original are the Javascript movies which came from a few high quality 9/11 videos (of the collapse of the WTC buildings and the planes hitting the buildings etc) that are publicly available on the web --- but they were originally videos, not Javascript movies.
In fact the 9/11 videos came from this page
http://linux.coconia.net/gr/523.htm
which I had to salvage from Google as the original site "went missing".[/quote]
Provide the whole story pal,.........
You admit that you have never run a server, yet pretend you know something about all this,....
You say: sure redhat ships with a gui. do you have to install it? no. can it be useful? i dunno,....
You use this to imply that running a GUI on a server, a known security risk, is not only OK, but desirable, because redhat caters for the server market.
Yet if I say the same thing for MP3's, you get all up tight,....
I say: sure redhat ships with MP3. do you have to install it? no. can it be useful? Of course it is useful. I can't work well unless listening to my MP3s,....
and claim that Redhat can't support MP3's because they cater for the server market......
Oh,.... but that's right: redhat doesn't ship with MP3 support,.....
Note, that you have said that Redhat should supply graphics support, because it is useful to many people, even though it is security risk on a server.
Note, that you have also said that Redhat should not supply MP3 support, even though it is useful to many people because Redhat is meant to be used as a server.
You have a serious disconnect in you thinking pal.
Just wow man. I call you a raving lunatic, because you are one,....
You admit that you have never run a server, yet pretend you know something about all this,....
You say: sure redhat ships with a gui. do you have to install it? no. can it be useful? i dunno,....
You use this to imply that running a GUI on a server, a known security risk, is not only OK, but desirable, because redhat caters for the server market.
Yet if I say the same thing for MP3's, you get all up tight,....
I say: sure redhat ships with MP3. do you have to install it? no. can it be useful? Of course it is useful. I can't work well unless listening to my MP3s,....
and claim that Redhat can't support MP3's because they cater for the server market......
Oh,.... but that's right: redhat doesn't ship with MP3 support,.....
Note, that you have said that Redhat should supply graphics support, because it is useful to many people, even though it is security risk on a server.
Note, that you have also said that Redhat should not supply MP3 support, even though it is useful to many people because Redhat is meant to be used as a server.
You have a serious disconnect in you thinking pal.
Ohhhhhhhh man, don't ban fisher and all those who called me names,...... they are OK,...... really.
You people just don't know how to argue,... and get real upset when beaten fair and square.
Nothinman
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Because things like Oracle require it, are you even reading the posts here? It's impossible to install Oracle without X, therefore RedHat would be cutting of a significant portion of their business if they removed X. So logic dictates that RedHat should include and support X, by what logic should they include and support an MP3 decoder?
Arguing seems to be the only thing you know how to do.
erikistired
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i haven't run a linux server. that doesn't mean squat because your arguements have no merit. i'm not pretending to know anything, it's pretty much common sense for everyone but you.
i'm not implying anything. i'm not sure how you go from "you don't have to install the gui" to "you think it's desirable" but there you go. i'm not uptight about anything. i don't care one way or the other if red hat ships with mp3 support because 1) i'm not a retard and am capable of installing an mp3 player in linux and 2) i wouldn't use an mp3 player on a server. but then i'm able to distinguish a server OS from a workstation OS. of course i also live in reality and not fantasyland...
i say, if you can't install xmms then you probably don't need to be running linux anyway.
can you point out where i said that? i said they DO, that doesn't mean i say they SHOULD.
once again, i didn't say they shouldn't. i can certainly understand why they don't even if you can't get it through your skull. perhaps when you get through puberty you'll figure it out.
if by disconnect you mean i'm a rational person who can read, then yes, you are correct.
AFAIK they haven't mangled Linux itself in any way shape or form. You are free to download xmms,ffmpeg,etc as you please to activate the rather "side dish" (server being the main course) functionality.
^^ In a nutshell. With slight adjustments made.
@ JohnBernstein: Forum etiquette 101 Might be a course you could check out.
In general, if you are trying to have a constructive conversation or argument, its not a good idea to come out of the gates and attack everyone. As a rule of thumb they wont take it well.
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