I've heard it has a bunch of taurine in it. I've heard taurine is bad for you. This is just what I've heard. It'll give you a gut ache in the morning if you have too much of it the night before, that much I do know.
Considering that taurine is a NEAA produced internally by the body to regulate the excitability of membranes, aid in FRW, and is even used to control epileptic seizures, I think you heard wrong.
apoppin
Lifer
I prefer Hansens out of all the commercial energy drinks.
But then I use 2-3 tea bags per cup of water when I make black tea and really need to 'get going'.
But then I use 2-3 tea bags per cup of water when I make black tea and really need to 'get going'.
apoppin
Lifer
Originally posted by: Mill
Have any research to back that up?
It's basically physiology. Unless I can find away to post my med book, I can't prove it to you, but I'll break it down for you.
1. Both caffeine and alcohol are diruetics, multiplying the dehydration caused when drinking alcohol. Not to mention that sugar slows down the absorbtion of water, also contributing to dehydration. Excessive drinking of the combined can lead to death.
2. Combing a strong stimulant (caffiene) with a heavy depressant (alcohol) can easily cause cardiopulmonary or cardiovascular failures, as it confuses the CNS.
3. Strong stimulants, as well as alcohol, decrease the body's ability to regulate temperature.
You don't have to believe me, I won't lose sleep over it.
Mixing deperessents and stimulants in high doses is a universally bad idea for obvious reasons. One of the kids that went to my high school OD'd that way. On the other hand, in small amounts like a rum and coke, it probably isn't the end of the world if you keep yourself sufficiently hydrated and don't run a marathon afterwards.
Originally posted by: DrNoobie
Originally posted by: Mill
Have any research to back that up?
It's basically physiology. Unless I can find away to post my med book, I can't prove it to you, but I'll break it down for you.
1. Both caffeine and alcohol are diruetics, multiplying the dehydration caused when drinking alcohol. Not to mention that sugar slows down the absorbtion of water, also contributing to dehydration. Excessive drinking of the combined can lead to death.
2. Combing a strong stimulant (caffiene) with a heavy depressant (alcohol) can easily cause cardiopulmonary or cardiovascular failures, as it confuses the CNS.
3. Strong stimulants, as well as alcohol, decrease the body's ability to regulate temperature.
You don't have to believe me, I won't lose sleep over it.
lol you have to post LINKS to satisfy some people
Originally posted by: DrNoobie
Originally posted by: Mill
Have any research to back that up?
It's basically physiology. Unless I can find away to post my med book, I can't prove it to you, but I'll break it down for you.
1. Both caffeine and alcohol are diruetics, multiplying the dehydration caused when drinking alcohol. Not to mention that sugar slows down the absorbtion of water, also contributing to dehydration. Excessive drinking of the combined can lead to death.
2. Combing a strong stimulant (caffiene) with a heavy depressant (alcohol) can easily cause cardiopulmonary or cardiovascular failures, as it confuses the CNS.
3. Strong stimulants, as well as alcohol, decrease the body's ability to regulate temperature.
You don't have to believe me, I won't lose sleep over it.
1. No sh!t, but anyone who drinks knows about dehydration issues. Same with using any stimulant. If they don't, well Darwin intervenes. Plus you have to realize that to really dehydrate the body that much you are going to have to hit the LD-50 levels of alcohol or caffeine or be VOMITING out your fluid. Alcohol unless you hit the LD-50 isn't going to dehydrate you that much, even with the addition of caffeine. And can lead to death is simply a moronic statement. What in the world CANNOT lead to death? At least post some percentages that say what percent of people using the substances in normal manners would experience it. We are talking 0.00001% if not less. You are talking about people who overindulge. Same issue with ephedra... totally safe for 99% of people, but way less safe for people when they took way more than the recommended dosage, and the fact that dosage was not easily regulated in a pill since the FDA had it defined as a supplement and not a prescription.
2. In theory. Caffeine is hardly a strong stimulant. Alcohol in modest amounts is hardly a heavy depressant. Less textbooks and more research and hands on experience for you. If you were to tell someone to not mix Cocaine and Heroin that would be fine. Same for Adderall and a heavy opiate like oxycodone. Actually, many people mix that very often. You are obviously going by theory here and not any ACTUAL research on the combination you are speaking about. Depressants are mixed all the time with stimulants, but dosage, metabolism, and the individual physiology of someone's body are more effective factors than a simple blankets statement. I'd like you post a single Cardiopulmonary or Cardiovascular failure due to caffeine and alcohol. And I am not talking about someone that hit the LD-50 dosage of each. You can be liberal but let's not start throwing out random BS amounts to get your desired conclusion. The substances we mentioned hardly contraindicate each other enough to cause the problems you suggest. One caveat: it does depend on the person. Some are very sensitive to alcohol and caffeine. That is why people should know about their INDIVIDUAL body and not rely solely on prescription monographs or what everyone else does. That being said there is hardly any cases to show what you are saying. You made a claim I asked you to back it up. Put up or shut up. Regurgitating first year Bio to me isn't impressive.
3. Dude, caffeine is hardly a problem when it comes to body temperature. It doesn't raise the temperature enough to be significant unlike something more thermogenic like ephedra, amphetamines, clenbuterol, or the like. As far as regulation of temperature... alcohol is going to make heat loss much more prominent whereas the caffeine's slightly thermogenic effects will pretty much contrast with the alcohol. I'd have to say that it would be a crapshoot as far as having a significant impact on body temperature. This is not MDMA here my friend. It's fvcking Red Bull.
So honestly dude... STFU until you actually have something to back yourself up or actually make it past first year. K?
Originally posted by: Compton
Originally posted by: DrNoobie
Originally posted by: Mill
Have any research to back that up?
It's basically physiology. Unless I can find away to post my med book, I can't prove it to you, but I'll break it down for you.
1. Both caffeine and alcohol are diruetics, multiplying the dehydration caused when drinking alcohol. Not to mention that sugar slows down the absorbtion of water, also contributing to dehydration. Excessive drinking of the combined can lead to death.
2. Combing a strong stimulant (caffiene) with a heavy depressant (alcohol) can easily cause cardiopulmonary or cardiovascular failures, as it confuses the CNS.
3. Strong stimulants, as well as alcohol, decrease the body's ability to regulate temperature.
You don't have to believe me, I won't lose sleep over it.
lol you have to post LINKS to satisfy some people
No, you just have to not talk about things that you know nothing about.
MustangSVT
Lifer
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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Compton
Originally posted by: DrNoobie
Originally posted by: Mill
Have any research to back that up?
It's basically physiology. Unless I can find away to post my med book, I can't prove it to you, but I'll break it down for you.
1. Both caffeine and alcohol are diruetics, multiplying the dehydration caused when drinking alcohol. Not to mention that sugar slows down the absorbtion of water, also contributing to dehydration. Excessive drinking of the combined can lead to death.
2. Combing a strong stimulant (caffiene) with a heavy depressant (alcohol) can easily cause cardiopulmonary or cardiovascular failures, as it confuses the CNS.
3. Strong stimulants, as well as alcohol, decrease the body's ability to regulate temperature.
You don't have to believe me, I won't lose sleep over it.
lol you have to post LINKS to satisfy some people
No, you just have to not talk about things that you know nothing about.
Red Bull in suspected link to deaths
Europe?s highest court has just upheld a French ban on the ?energy? drink Red Bull on health grounds.
Energy drinks and alcohol a possibly dangerous mix
Well, that's it for me buying Red Bull...
More black coffee and chocolate-covered espresso beans for me.
More black coffee and chocolate-covered espresso beans for me.
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