Is pot addictive answer the poll please

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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
It's not any more addictive than anything else, and less addictive than a great many things.


Yep. thats the correct way to phrase it... a great many things are addictive, Pot is relatively benign IMO.
 

jemcam

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I voted no, and I know that it is not physically addictive. However, from my own personal experience, it is mentally addicting. Some will say that's nothing. I beg to differ, my craving of it has been severe even after 4 months being clean and sober from it and alcohol. I've been attending AA to help me stay sober and I can tell you that I am craving getting high much more than I am getting drunk.

Maybe I should have said yes, but there are no studies showing it to be physically addictive. But I would argue that an addiction, whether physical or mental is still an addiction and one that is difficult to overcome.
 

RichPLS

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NO POT 4 U ! ! !

The Supremes went 6-3 against pot for the ill.

State Rights take a hit while the Righteous Right get's another victory.

Interesting that States can deny gays equal rights but can't allow pot to be smoked by the ill.

The beat goes on . . .

The three dissenting votes were O'Connor, Rhenquist, and Thomas.

Yes the beat does go on... Blame those rascally Conservatives. Facts to be checked later.

I suspect that the Conservative judges based their dissent upon the law (probably the 10th Amendment).

Morphine and codeine are much more powerful drugs than cannabis, yet a doctor can write a prescription for same.

This is an economic issue. Marijuana is very cost effective for the level of relief, that does not sit well with the drug companies who sell more dangerous and more expensive drugs.

 

RichPLS

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America went thru this in the poncho villa days--it was motivated by fear saying the Mexicans are all pot smokers and they will continue to rob and steal and that the drug makes all this more probable--that is why it has been outlawed but more info is that the govt IE: the police would have essentially nothing to do and would have to let over half of their help go--that would not serve the govt well to not have an in to your life your job you house your car your children your savings in fact drugs gives them the right to monitor or control every facet of our lives--
We all know drugs are way less damaging than booze but the govt controls booze but they won't allow their grip on us to disappear by legalizing mary-j
 

RichPLS

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BTW today Marijuanna up to 4 ounces are LEGAL for people in Alaska, but not for medical use as a drug.
 

StageLeft

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The definition of addictive is really at question here. If you smoke pot for 6 months and then stop cold turkey will you get the shakes and think of nothing else but pot, while going nuts and vomiting? No. But if you introduce it into your life, it will be difficult to quit. Such is the so-called psychological addiction, but it's just semantics. I don't know anybody who, if they stopped drinking now, would get the shivers and physical withdrawal symptoms, but I know a lot of people who know they drink too much and 'can't stop'. Sure they could, but it's part of their life. The same happens with pot.
 

RichPLS

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Daily alcohol use for 6 months would give one the shakes, shivers and cause physical and physiologicaly discomfort. Alcohol is unquestionably physically and physiologicaly addictive.
 

torpid

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Originally posted by: RichPLS
NO POT 4 U ! ! !

The Supremes went 6-3 against pot for the ill.

State Rights take a hit while the Righteous Right get's another victory.

Interesting that States can deny gays equal rights but can't allow pot to be smoked by the ill.

The beat goes on . . .

The three dissenting votes were O'Connor, Rhenquist, and Thomas.

Yes the beat does go on... Blame those rascally Conservatives. Facts to be checked later.

I suspect that the Conservative judges based their dissent upon the law (probably the 10th Amendment).

Morphine and codeine are much more powerful drugs than cannabis, yet a doctor can write a prescription for same.

This is an economic issue. Marijuana is very cost effective for the level of relief, that does not sit well with the drug companies who sell more dangerous and more expensive drugs.

Not saying I disagree with the rest of the above, but codeine and morpheine do not have non-narcotic equivalents in terms of potency. As far as I know, anyway. So it is at least a little different.
 

GhettoPeanut

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
The definition of addictive is really at question here. If you smoke pot for 6 months and then stop cold turkey will you get the shakes and think of nothing else but pot, while going nuts and vomiting? No. But if you introduce it into your life, it will be difficult to quit. Such is the so-called psychological addiction, but it's just semantics. I don't know anybody who, if they stopped drinking now, would get the shivers and physical withdrawal symptoms, but I know a lot of people who know they drink too much and 'can't stop'. Sure they could, but it's part of their life. The same happens with pot.

True, but there is most defiantly a physical addiction. At UVM they are doing an ongoing study, my brother helped with the research as part of a lab science requirement. They had one guy come in that had quit recently, he had been smoking for years, he had the shakes, cold sweats, nausea, and a multitude of other symptoms. Pots like alcohol, a little bit is ok, but eventually to much will catch up with you. most of the "pots not addicting" "facts" come from people with no actual proof who just want to justify there continual smoking. don?t get me wrong, I?m all for legalizing it, but like i said, its most defiantly addicting. and like alcohol, different people will have different tolerances. go figure.
 

RichPLS

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GhettoPeanut, Marijuana is not physically addicting according to medical research, and you do not get physical symptoms from the drug, unless that person is so psychologically messed up that the psychosis caused their physical discomfort.
 

Gurck

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
if you introduce [pot] into your life, it will be difficult to quit
Patently false, a minority of smokers experience the psychological addiction. They are generally the type with addictive personalities who could just as easily be addicted to TV, food, etc. For most, it's a once in a while thing with little to no negative consequences and which would be no biggie to stop if they wanted or had to.
I don't know anybody who, if they stopped drinking now, would get the shivers and physical withdrawal symptoms, but I know a lot of people who know they drink too much and 'can't stop'. Sure they could, but it's part of their life.
Glad you don't know anybody in the severe stages of alcoholism, but alcohol can indeed be physically addictive to the point where stopping can lead to withdrawl symptoms or even death.
Originally posted by: GhettoPeanut
True, but there is most defiantly a physical addiction. At UVM they are doing an ongoing study, my brother helped with the research as part of a lab science requirement. They had one guy come in that had quit recently, he had been smoking for years, he had the shakes, cold sweats, nausea, and a multitude of other symptoms. Pots like alcohol, a little bit is ok, but eventually to much will catch up with you. most of the "pots not addicting" "facts" come from people with no actual proof who just want to justify there continual smoking. don?t get me wrong, I?m all for legalizing it, but like i said, its most defiantly addicting. and like alcohol, different people will have different tolerances. go figure.
Your anecdotal example does nothing for your argument. For all you know the guy could have been giving up heroin at the same time or could be epileptic. There is no physical addiction associated with marijuana.

I'm so sick of seeing misinformation here. I think the problem is most of AT is < 20 years old. Their experiences with marijuana are limited to the 'bad' kids at high school who were stupid before ever trying it and are only smoking it because they think it's cool and rebellious. It's a vicious cycle; it gets stigmatized by the government (fueled by money from tobacco & alcohol manufacturers), which encourages degenerates to use it, which in turn fuels the stigma. It's very unfortunate.

Edit: I know you're over 20 skoorb, and I'm not referring to your post, but rather to the huge percentage which voted yes and especially to the frequent hateful comments seen in these threads.
 

Smackem

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Well, there are no physical withdrawl symptons. In that respect, it is not addictive. However; just like all behavoirs, people tend to do it too much. Some people's reward center of their brain is just wired to put stuff like drugs over stuff like food/water/sex.

<-- me
 

RichPLS

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Originally posted by: Smackem
Well, there are no physical withdrawl symptons. In that respect, it is not addictive. However; just like all behavoirs, people tend to do it too much. Some people's reward center of their brain is just wired to put stuff like drugs over stuff like food/water/sex.

<-- me

Wrong, Potheads do not put pot in place of food. A side effect of pot is that it increased hunger and appetite. So pot use and food consumption go hand in hand. I have never heard of a pot user not getting the munchies.
 

Gurck

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Originally posted by: RichPLS
Originally posted by: Smackem
Well, there are no physical withdrawl symptons. In that respect, it is not addictive. However; just like all behavoirs, people tend to do it too much. Some people's reward center of their brain is just wired to put stuff like drugs over stuff like food/water/sex.

<-- me

Wrong, Potheads do not put pot in place of food. A side effect of pot is that it increased hunger and appetite. So pot use and food consumption go hand in hand. I have never heard of a pot user not getting the munchies.

*nod* this is why it's very effective for AIDS & cancer patients; these diseases and their treatments often lead to an almost complete loss of appetite and nausea when sufferers do eat. Pot helps many to get the nutrition necessary to combat their malady.
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Josh
There's no proven physical addiction. It's a "mental" addiction, if anything. Cigarettes are a physical addition where your body "needs" them, weed is just a recreational type thing, you don't "need" it - meaning you are not going to have withdrawl symptoms if you don't smoke a joint ;)

Bingo. If any addiction develops, it's a psychological one where somebody's life is so fvcked up that they prefer the high they get from marajuana to life. I'm surprised it doesn't happen more often given the popularity of the drug.
Too bad that is incorrect.

Marijuana, or a lack thereof, most certainly causes withdrawl symptoms in me and my family.

They are light; as I said before, it's not like you curl up into a ball and quiver for a day if you don't get your joint. Rather, you're cranky.. don't feel good.. feel like you just.. "need" something.

The same thing that happens when I don't get my caffeine/pop ....

We need another poll that shows which voters do or don't smoke...
 

Horus

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Absolutely not. I was a pot user for about a year, until I got sick of how stupid it made me feel..

Potheads, you know what I'm talking about...when you just can't think of a word you're looking for and it drives you nuts!
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Yes.

those that say no are simply uniformed/ignorant.


Have you tried it? Did you get addicted?

Let's just say that I'm very "informed" on the subject, and NO, it's definitely not addictive.
 

torpid

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Originally posted by: Gurck
Originally posted by: RichPLS
Originally posted by: Smackem
Well, there are no physical withdrawl symptons. In that respect, it is not addictive. However; just like all behavoirs, people tend to do it too much. Some people's reward center of their brain is just wired to put stuff like drugs over stuff like food/water/sex.

<-- me

Wrong, Potheads do not put pot in place of food. A side effect of pot is that it increased hunger and appetite. So pot use and food consumption go hand in hand. I have never heard of a pot user not getting the munchies.

*nod* this is why it's very effective for AIDS & cancer patients; these diseases and their treatments often lead to an almost complete loss of appetite and nausea when sufferers do eat. Pot helps many to get the nutrition necessary to combat their malady.

I don't think it is effective because they make you hungry. It's effective because it reduces nausea and similar issues, so that you aren't likely to regurgitate your food.
 

RichPLS

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Marijuana, or a lack thereof, most certainly causes withdrawl symptoms in me and my family.

You are a medical oddity and should check yourself and family into a research hospital for evaluation and testing on these physiological symptoms.
 

torpid

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Originally posted by: RichPLS
Marijuana, or a lack thereof, most certainly causes withdrawl symptoms in me and my family.

You are a medical oddity and should check yourself and family into a research hospital for evaluation and testing on these physiological symptoms.

Uncommon perhaps, but not an oddity worthy of research.