Is nobody the least bit bothered by John McCain's hypocrisy?

[Blackjack200]

Originally posted by: maluckey
Funny stuff BlackJack!

But your facts are wrong. Southern Baptists support the Death penalty for the most part. Their faith does not preclude supporting Capital Punishment.

Even Roman Catholics will support the Death penalty in extreme cases. There is a Litmus test that goes with it though. Episcopals are just Roman Catholics with comfortable shoes, so my guess is that they likely support it as well.

Keep trying to make yourself look retarded and you just might succeed. OR you could try to have an intelligent discussion about something instead. Just might learn something about yourself in the process.

I agree, it is pretty funny, and wholly irrelevant.

Southern Baptist is a Baptist denomination. It doesn't matter that Southern Baptists "support the Death penalty for the most part".
Apparently you do not understand what it IS to be a Baptist.

1. Being a little Baptist is like being a little pregnant.

2. You can either follow a religion or not as is your choice. Deliberately not following the laws of your particular church means you've forsaken the faith and are not necessarily entitled to participate fully in THAT particular brand of religion.

3. Those who think [for themselves] are either totally ignorant of the Baptist faith, or practice a secularized and sanitized version of the Baptist faith that they CHOOSE to follow, that is as much Baptist as is Santeria.

4. Spare me the separation of Church and State crap that DOES exist in the Soviet/Russian Constitution, but NOT in the United States Constitution. One might wonder about the word "God" appearing in OFFICIAL united States documents with startling frequency. Founding fathers never intended to take God out of the equation. They just chose to think that it would be a matter of faith and personal responsibility to merge the two, rather than the position of the Government to enforce it. Their bad experience with the Anglicans left a sour taste.

To claim to be something that you KNOW that you aren't, for the sake of personal gain, isn't even christian, let alone Baptist. I don't care you're a Catholic, Muslim or Yezidi. Claiming to be something that you know you're not, is clearly and morally wrong. If you don't already KNOW this, then you've a lot of growing up to do and aren't ready to lead anyone. I can understand and trust better a Satanist, who stays true to his faith before a Catholic who changes with the tide. One show a maturity of ideas and beliefs while the other is still a child (mentally). One is ready to lead, the other...not.

So which will it be? Will McCain follow the laws of his community, since he swore before his God and his community as a whole that he would, or are his words meaningless? Will McCain swear to uphold the laws of the Constitution then choose not to? His words say that he might, since he recently did just that.

 

[GooeyGUI]

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: loki8481
Harvey... when the fuck was McCain for gay marriage?

I found lots of links where he says yes or no. Here's one where he flips within an 11 minute span on one TV show. :Q

You can chase some of these for more.

He is no Barack Hussein Obama he could flip in a minute or 2 max.

like? links, sources?

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: GooeyGUI

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: loki8481
Harvey... when the fuck was McCain for gay marriage?

I found lots of links where he says yes or no. Here's one where he flips within an 11 minute span on one TV show. :Q

You can chase some of these for more.

He is no Barack Hussein Obama he could flip in a minute or 2 max.

like? links, sources?

It's Budmantom. He's already said stupid, unuspportable things like this in this very same thread:

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: OrByte
Alot of "Pro-Lifers" are Pro death penalty.
hypocrisy at its finest.

I thought the same thing that the people that want to save the life of the guilty will not protect the life of the innocent.

Even though he is wholely "innocent" of any critical or substantive thinking at all, I'm still for protecting his life.

 

[kage69]

Yes, I am extremely bothered by McCain's hypocrisy, it's like he's been the victim of some mind control device since 2000. It's not the religious hypocrisy that bothers me per se (quite common among christians really, I'm used to it) it's his political double standards and flip flops that amaze me. John Kerry was raked over the coals for far less, and here the GOP is suddenly acting like McCain is the next Reagan and somehow represents change despite mirroring Cheney's record almost perfectly. The fake excitement over Palin is just frosting on the cake!


edit: temporary latin lapse- mea culpa!

 

[ProfJohn]

Pro-life:
Killing a baby = bad
Killing a murder = good

Pro-choicer:
Killing a baby = good
Killing a murder = bad

 

[ProfJohn]

You guys on the left will have to forgive me, but I am a little confused.

In one thread (more than one actually) you tell me Palin is BAD because she listens to her church and will follow whatever her church wants her to do.

But in this thread you tell me McCain is bad because he doesn't follow what his church says.

So will someone please explain how this is suppose to work.

 

[GooeyGUI]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
You guys on the left will have to forgive me, but I am a little confused.

In one thread (more than one actually) you tell me Palin is BAD because she listens to her church and will follow whatever her church wants her to do.

But in this thread you tell me McCain is bad because he doesn't follow what his church says.

So will someone please explain how this is suppose to work.

"you" and "someone" aren't clearly defined. There may be people with different views, that are on the left, other then these two singular vantages. After all, Obama and Biden go to church too.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

You guys on the left will have to forgive me, but I am a little confused.

Buahaha!!! I've been telling you that for years! It's about time you learned that :laugh:

 

[kage69]

...but I am a little confused

Understatement of the decade John....

 

[rockyct]

Originally posted by: Blackjack200

Originally posted by: maluckey
Funny stuff BlackJack!

But your facts are wrong. Southern Baptists support the Death penalty for the most part. Their faith does not preclude supporting Capital Punishment.

Even Roman Catholics will support the Death penalty in extreme cases. There is a Litmus test that goes with it though. Episcopals are just Roman Catholics with comfortable shoes, so my guess is that they likely support it as well.

Keep trying to make yourself look retarded and you just might succeed. OR you could try to have an intelligent discussion about something instead. Just might learn something about yourself in the process.

I agree, it is pretty funny, and wholly irrelevant.

Southern Baptist is a Baptist denomination. It doesn't matter that Southern Baptists "support the Death penalty for the most part".
Apparently you do not understand what it IS to be a Baptist.

1. Being a little Baptist is like being a little pregnant.

2. You can either follow a religion or not as is your choice. Deliberately not following the laws of your particular church means you've forsaken the faith and are not necessarily entitled to participate fully in THAT particular brand of religion.

3. Those who think [for themselves] are either totally ignorant of the Baptist faith, or practice a secularized and sanitized version of the Baptist faith that they CHOOSE to follow, that is as much Baptist as is Santeria.

4. Spare me the separation of Church and State crap that DOES exist in the Soviet/Russian Constitution, but NOT in the United States Constitution. One might wonder about the word "God" appearing in OFFICIAL united States documents with startling frequency. Founding fathers never intended to take God out of the equation. They just chose to think that it would be a matter of faith and personal responsibility to merge the two, rather than the position of the Government to enforce it. Their bad experience with the Anglicans left a sour taste.

To claim to be something that you KNOW that you aren't, for the sake of personal gain, isn't even christian, let alone Baptist. I don't care you're a Catholic, Muslim or Yezidi. Claiming to be something that you know you're not, is clearly and morally wrong. If you don't already KNOW this, then you've a lot of growing up to do and aren't ready to lead anyone. I can understand and trust better a Satanist, who stays true to his faith before a Catholic who changes with the tide. One show a maturity of ideas and beliefs while the other is still a child (mentally). One is ready to lead, the other...not.

So which will it be? Will McCain follow the laws of his community, since he swore before his God and his community as a whole that he would, or are his words meaningless? Will McCain swear to uphold the laws of the Constitution then choose not to? His words say that he might, since he recently did just that.

lol, well done. A serious parody thread. :thumbsup:

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Blackjack200
Is nobody bothered that John McCain claims to be Episcopalian while disregarding the faith and it's very foundations?

Not at all. In fact that is one redeeming quality that I see in him. Mother Palin should follow his lead.

 

[Double Trouble]

Originally posted by: OrByte
Alot of "Pro-Lifers" are Pro death penalty.

hypocrisy at its finest.

I'm personally pro-choice, but that statement is utterly stupid. Comparing the life of an innocent (if unborn) child to someone convicted of a crime so heinous that society has decided they forfeit the right to live is idiotic.

There is no hypocrisy in being pro-life and for the death penalty at the same time, unless the death penalty starts getting randomly applied to innocents.

Oh, and as to the question posed in the OP, no, I don't see any hypocrisy, there are very very very few people who actually practice all the rules of their particular religion, people tend to follow most and ignore some rules.

 

[Atreus21]

Originally posted by: mxyzptlk

Originally posted by: ZeroIQ

Originally posted by: OrByte
Alot of "Pro-Lifers" are Pro death penalty.

hypocrisy at its finest.

This is usually stated by someone who is ignorant to the issue and why people are pro-life and for the death penalty. It is not hypocrisy.

How can you be for life AND the death penalty? If I am ignorant, please educate me.

but it seems that if you're for ALL life, then how can you be FOR ending life?

Pro-life is the name of one of the two factions in the abortion issue. Pro-choice is the name of the other.

Because you are on the pro-life side doesn't mean you support all life in all circumstances. There are times when life is justifiably lost. Being on the pro-choice side doesn't mean you support all choices. There are times when there should be no choice.

Make sense?

 

[Atreus21]

Originally posted by: Double Trouble

Originally posted by: OrByte
Alot of "Pro-Lifers" are Pro death penalty.

hypocrisy at its finest.

I'm personally pro-choice, but that statement is utterly stupid. Comparing the life of an innocent (if unborn) child to someone convicted of a crime so heinous that society has decided they forfeit the right to live is idiotic.

There is no hypocrisy in being pro-life and for the death penalty at the same time, unless the death penalty starts getting randomly applied to innocents.

Oh, and as to the question posed in the OP, no, I don't see any hypocrisy, there are very very very few people who actually practice all the rules of their particular religion, people tend to follow most and ignore some rules.

Dude, it's nice to see someone with a damned clue.