Is Ndamukong Suh a dirty player?

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ussfletcher

ussfletcher

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Despite what the guy did, you have to remember that football players are trained to rage against their opponents. I'm sure most if not all of us have had moments where anger has gotten the best of us, and for Suh that may be stomping on a guy. I'm not at all saying this is 'clean' football, but it is something that was blown way out of proportion, though it was definitely 'unsportsmanlike'.
 
erikistired

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blurredvision said:
I wouldn't classify him as a "dirty" player, but I would classify him as an asshole.
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this is probably more correct. he plays hard from snap to whistle. then afterwards he goes all MMA on people, which isn't really in the spirit of the game. perhaps he's channeling his inner kimbo slice.

ussfletcher said:
Despite what the guy did, you have to remember that football players are trained to rage against their opponents. I'm sure most if not all of us have had moments where anger has gotten the best of us, and for Suh that may be stomping on a guy. I'm not at all saying this is 'clean' football, but it is something that was blown way out of proportion, though it was definitely 'unsportsmanlike'.
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he's getting paid millions not to screw over his team by keeping his temper in check. and once a season is losing your temper, doing it every other game is probably a more serious lack of control. also, slamming a guy's head into the ground then clearly kicking out at him while he's on the ground is not blown out of proportion. the fact the guy keeps lying about it makes it even worse. lost his balance, right dude.
 
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Squisher

Squisher

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If every time I hit you, your helmet flies off, I'd say you need a new helmet and chin strap.
 
Uppsala9496

Uppsala9496

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He sure is. Too bad the suspension is only 2 games. I would like to see it for the remainder of the season because I can't stand him.
 
AMDZen

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I will add that I don't think its just Suh.

The Lions are fostering a culture right now. An blatantly dirty one. It starts at the top with head coach Jim Schwartz.

He showed his true colors in the game against the 49ers when Harbaugh may have been a little awkward in his handshake and it was Schwartz who made a big deal out of it. He looked like a little High School bully trying to make a big deal out of something small. Harbaugh showed class when he basically just ignored the little fucker.

These Lions are all your typical bullies—the multiple dirty plays from Suh, quarterback Matthew Stafford’s antics during a Bears blowout two weeks ago, Nick Fairley, Kyle Vanden Bosch (who was dirty on the Titans too).

Earlier this month after Suh had met with Roger Goodell about his behavior, Schwartz hinted that he knew what the league office wanted coaches to convey and had no intention of instilling that in his players. I don't know if this is 100% true, but I do know that Schwartz acts like a parent in denial of his bully children by doing little to nothing to keep such dirty play in check.
 
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djnsmith7

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Even though he doesn't top my list of dirtiest players of all time, he is a dirty player. There are certain things you don't do as a professional athlete, regardless of the circumstances, & stomping on another player's bicep is one of them.

Goodell won't take his next incident so kindly. In fact, I think one of the reasons he got off with a slap on the wrist for this stomp is because he's going to get nailed the next time. His suspension should have been 3 games, minimum. A small fine & a lousy 2 games sends the wrong message to the rest of the players in the league.

Suh better keep his cool & grow up quick...
 
Analog

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Squisher

Squisher

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You're not allowed to in anyway grab a hold with your hands of another players helmet or face mask. As of recently you are not allowed to touch the helmet of a QB in the pocket. However, you are allowed to grasp another players helmet with your arms and use that to wrestle them to the ground as long as there is no intent to injure. It's far from the best technique for maintaining a tackle, but it is allowed. I would say the Delhome was in the pocket and there was a twisting motion to his head. Dirty.
 
Squisher

Squisher

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AMDZen said:
I will add that I don't think its just Suh.

The Lions are fostering a culture right now. An blatantly dirty one. It starts at the top with head coach Jim Schwartz.

He showed his true colors in the game against the 49ers when Harbaugh may have been a little awkward in his handshake and it was Schwartz who made a big deal out of it. He looked like a little High School bully trying to make a big deal out of something small. Harbaugh showed class when he basically just ignored the little fucker.

These Lions are all your typical bullies—the multiple dirty plays from Suh, quarterback Matthew Stafford’s antics during a Bears blowout two weeks ago, Nick Fairley, Kyle Vanden Bosch (who was dirty on the Titans too).

Earlier this month after Suh had met with Roger Goodell about his behavior, Schwartz hinted that he knew what the league office wanted coaches to convey and had no intention of instilling that in his players. I don't know if this is 100% true, but I do know that Schwartz acts like a parent in denial of his bully children by doing little to nothing to keep such dirty play in check.
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There is very strict unwritten etiquette that goes into that handshake. It does not involve a slap on the back and more importantly something was said by Harbaugh that has never been revealed and that was what really set off Schwartz. Yeah, he could have let it slide, but neither one of us know what was said.

So, they are fostering a culture where there is a likelihood that penalties will be called and as a direct result it will detrimental to winning games? Do you have any other stupid ideas?
 
Oil

Oil

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The Lions got Nick Fairley so, yeah, they are a pretty dirty team
 
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rasczak

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The Lions will become what the Raiders were in the 70's. Now those were dirty teams. :)
 
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