Is Kabini 3850 enough for web surfing and media?

[Vesku]

Unfortunately, the more "rich" web technology becomes, the more bloated a web site will make itself with 20-50 "social media" scripts, advertising, analytics, etc (plus web browsing is still heavily single-threaded reliant). If I were building a "green" desktop / mini-ITX to use as a "web / office box" from scratch, I'd much prefer a "2x large core" Pentium than a "4x small core" Atom / Kabini. You can browse the web on all of them (with sub 30w load power figures), but the former will render pages noticeably faster, "hurry up and wait" much quicker, etc. Same is true of Skype, light gaming, etc, which heavily load 1-2 cores a lot more consistently than they equally load 3-4 cores with 100% core scalability.

Or just run noscript, adblock and ghostery. Which I do even on my main i5 IvyBridge computer. Companies have made the default internet browsing a somewhat terrible experience, imo.

Brazos C-70 was fine for browsing 2 years ago, Kabini and BayTrail should be fine for a couple of years. For those who want to stream music, while running flash websites and being on Skype (when would you be playing music and actively using Skype?), I think the quad core Kabini, Baytrail will handle that a lot better than the old dual core Brazos and Atom.

 

[Shivansps]

I dont want to be "this guy", but i had a HP Mini 210 on my hands today (N550) and i felt it was faster than those C-70 on Lenovos G485.

 

[VirtualLarry]

I dont want to be "this guy", but i had a HP Mini 210 on my hands today (N550) and i felt it was faster than those C-70 on Lenovos G485.

Isn't that a single-core Atom? Or was that the 330?

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Atom+N550+@+1.50GHz&id=622

It appears that Atom has HyperThreading. While not literally faster, it can seem faster / smoother. At least, that was my experience, with a P4 3.2 w/HT, versus certain A64 CPUs.

Edit: If you were running a 64-bit OS on both, then the Brazos may have been slightly hobbled.

 

[Shivansps]

N550 is a dual 2C/4T with GMA3150, and even has 64bit drivers too, not like the ones with the powervr.

I never have time to play a little with them, but it not only seems and feel faster, it completed my app install script in almost half the time too. .net 4.5 install kills the C-70 for example.

Overall to complete the script a C-70 needs about 40-50min, N550 was less than 30min for sure, a B940 takes about 15min, Sempron 2650 about 30-40min. Oh man i hate those too.

 

[Vesku]

C-70 should be pretty close or faster than an Atom N550 depending on the task. Perhaps there was a deficiency in some other aspect of the hardware, most likely a difference in hard drive performance, with the HP or bloatware.

http://liliputing.com/2011/03/acer-aspire-one-522-netbook-review.html

Almost the same situation now with Kabini vs Bay Trail except I think the AMD graphics are actually a bit further ahead than last time while Intel has a greater power efficiency advantage depending on the SKU. Wonder if we will see HT make a comeback in Intel's Atom line, right now there is core/thread parity.

I hope to see at least a doubling of the GPU in the next cat and atom generation. Should mean we'll see more pixel dense products at lower prices.

 

[Shivansps]

mmm no, i did clean S.O. install on both, on the HP Mini 210 because thats why it came for, and Lenovos G485 because is UNUSABLE, really, you just cant use it with the O.S. it comes with, people just come the next day to complain about it. But well thats the 3rd world for you, thats where Lenovo sells his remaining C-70s and importers bring in S2650 in high numbers that are worse than most of 5-year old pcs, and where S3850 and G1800 are MIA.

About the HDs is WD blue 5400rpm on both.

But yeah, maybe it was the TH making a difference.

 

[monstercameron]

as someone who used the c-50 in a netbook for years, it isnt as bad as you guys make in out to be, then again I used an ssd so that may have affected my experience.

Also there is no way the intel n550 is faster than the c70, even bobcat back then had more ipc than cedarview[?] atoms.

 

[Shivansps]

Yeah but i do remember that was compared to E-350, best case escenario the C-70 is 300mhz slower, and thats a lot in bobcat.

I wish i could have run some bencharks to be sure.

 

[Insert_Nickname]

Yeah but i do remember that was compared to E-350, best case escenario the C-70 is 300mhz slower, and thats a lot in bobcat.

With an SSD the E350 is usable'ish, its still slow, but at least you can use it in a pinch.

The C70 with XP is actually surprisingly usable. Slow, but usable. Just not for HD video. But then XP is a very lightweight OS for anything semi-modern...

 

[-sandro-]

Today I received all the parts to assemble the cheap desktop PC... damn this G1840 is great. I can't even feel the difference for basic tasks compared to my high end PC

 

[Madpacket]

Today I received all the parts to assemble the cheap desktop PC... damn this G1840 is great. I can't even feel the difference for basic tasks compared to my high end PC

Did you give him an SSD?

 

[ShintaiDK]

Today I received all the parts to assemble the cheap desktop PC... damn this G1840 is great. I can't even feel the difference for basic tasks compared to my high end PC

Super. Its good to hear

 

[-sandro-]

Did you give him an SSD?

No.

 

[Sweepr]

Today I received all the parts to assemble the cheap desktop PC... damn this G1840 is great. I can't even feel the difference for basic tasks compared to my high end PC

You can thank Celeron G1840's superb per core performance for that. It's a great budget desktop chip.