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Originally posted by: minendo
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Uhh, all's fair until they're wearing the rock.

That has got to be one of the stupidest philosophies. Why the hell would a guy give a woman a ring when he already knows that she has jumped ship before?

WTF, of course you're going to jump ship. Hell, anyone who is married has probably 'jumped ship' before. It's called DATING. We aren't talking about trying to make a move on someone's wife.
 
what does kicking johns ass have to do with this. It is not johns fault for getting what he wants, it is peters fault for not be the best "option"

to tomato,
If you don't try and get what you want, you will never get it.

Of course marriage draws the line, this is all during the dating and relationship period.
 
i don't think its ok to ask her out on a date, it is, however perfectly fine for peter to become a very close friend, which might influence mary to make a decision of her own.

-Vivan
 
Originally posted by: minendo
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Uhh, all's fair until they're wearing the rock.

That has got to be one of the stupidest philosophies. Why the hell would a guy give a woman a ring when he already knows that she has jumped ship before?

I think he means that it's "fair" to ask any girl out as long as she isn't married, and I agree with that.
 
Originally posted by: z0mb13
alls fair in love and war

😀

Yea, um one guy tried to hit on this girl i was with in front of my face while me her and a few of my friends her at a bar back in March. One of my friends I was hangout with knew him. Told all my friend that very same line. So i walk up to him and I told the lil b*tch, "Yep all is fair in an a$$ beating".


😀
 
Well this all depends.

John and Peter are friends - no brainer NO.

However if they aren't friends. Peter is going to be pissed, and John might want to watch out.
Ring or not, a relationship is a relationship.

Second problem, if Mary is in a relationship and is willing to stray, then whats to say she won't
find someone better than John down the road and John will then be in Peters position (probably bitching
about how someone is trying to steal his girlfriend).
 
Some girls are afraid to break up with their current boyfriend until they have someone else lined up. Or they think it's better to end it by cheating than to hurt the guy's feelings with a normal breakup. If you're going after one of these girls, don't expect it to last.
 
If my g/f was presented with a better "option" then me, i would have no problem with it. I wouldn't even blame the guy for making the move.

I might not be very happy with it, but it is only human to be selfish when it comes to happiness.
 
Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: minendo
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Uhh, all's fair until they're wearing the rock.

That has got to be one of the stupidest philosophies. Why the hell would a guy give a woman a ring when he already knows that she has jumped ship before?

I think he means that it's "fair" to ask any girl out as long as she isn't married, and I agree with that.

Good point. I took his comment out of context I believe. I can understand it, but pursuing a girl that has been in a long-term relationship is different than asking some girl out that has been dating someone for a few days, weeks, months.
 
Originally posted by: Ynog
Well this all depends.

John and Peter are friends - no brainer NO.

However if they aren't friends. Peter is going to be pissed, and John might want to watch out.
Ring or not, a relationship is a relationship.

Second problem, if Mary is in a relationship and is willing to stray, then whats to say she won't
find someone better than John down the road and John will then be in Peters position (probably bitching
about how someone is trying to steal his girlfriend).

Jesus Christ people. Isn't the point of DATING to find 'someone better down the road'? If you don't find someone better or find yourself not bothering to look then that means you're more than likely with the right person.

I'm starting to wonder if people on these forums know what 'dating' is an what 'dating' is not.
 
Originally posted by: Kwan1
what does kicking johns ass have to do with this. It is not johns fault for getting what he wants, it is peters fault for not be the best "option"

to tomato,
If you don't try and get what you want, you will never get it.

Of course marriage draws the line, this is all during the dating and relationship period.

Sure, but you're not entitled to get what you want. Hell, I want a private yacht, but I'm sure not entitled to it. I'm going to work hard and try to get one, but I'm not entitled to it.
 
This is how i Lost my last g.f and i know how it is. I have no grudges agains her new b/f but i was engulfed in flame for being John this time around.
 
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
I'm starting to wonder if people on these forums know what 'dating' is an what 'dating' is not.
It took you this long to start wondering. 90% of the dating/girl advice on this forum is from guys that have never had a date or girlfriend.
 
Originally posted by: Kwan1
This is how i Lost my last g.f and i know how it is. I have no grudges agains her new b/f but i was engulfed in flame for being John this time around.

Well, the situation of the dumped guy sucks, but that doesn't mean it's the other guys fault (as you seem to already be aware of).
 
Originally posted by: Tomato
Originally posted by: Kwan1
what does kicking johns ass have to do with this. It is not johns fault for getting what he wants, it is peters fault for not be the best "option"

to tomato,
If you don't try and get what you want, you will never get it.

Of course marriage draws the line, this is all during the dating and relationship period.

Sure, but you're not entitled to get what you want. Hell, I want a private yacht, but I'm sure not entitled to it. I'm going to work hard and try to get one, but I'm not entitled to it.

I never said i was entitiled to get what i want, i am saying that it is not wrong to pursue something that you do want.
 
Originally posted by: Tomato
Originally posted by: Kwan1
what does kicking johns ass have to do with this. It is not johns fault for getting what he wants, it is peters fault for not be the best "option"

to tomato,
If you don't try and get what you want, you will never get it.

Of course marriage draws the line, this is all during the dating and relationship period.

Sure, but you're not entitled to get what you want. Hell, I want a private yacht, but I'm sure not entitled to it. I'm going to work hard and try to get one, but I'm not entitled to it.

I never said i was entitiled to get what i want, i am saying that it is not wrong to pursue something that you do want.
 
First of all: John should expect to potentially receive an ass beating regardless of the outcome, and he should expect it to be an unfair fight that he isn't prepared for.

Second of all: John knows damn well he's being an asshole, he just doesn't care. He can justify it in is his head all he wants, but he is being an asshole.

Third of all: Assuming John actually gets Mary...what is he actually getting? Mary has proven herself to be a weak and unfaithful person by succumbing to him without first breaking off things with Peter, thus her only suitable use at this point is a quick lay. She is not girlfriend material.

So is summary, John wants tail and gets off on destroying other people's relationships while aquiring it. Mary is probably one of those self esteem devoid women who like to jump from one relationship directly to another because she lacks any ability to function as a unit on her own. And Peter probably should have seen it coming a long time ago.
 
universal truth:

"if she did it to him, she'll do it to you"

Meaning if you "steal" somebody's girl she will eventually be "stolen" from you.

Yes its wrong and dispicable if you pursue a woman in a committed relationship. But if they're just casually dating then is acceptible.
 
Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
Yes, it is wrong.

Elaborate. You can't help what your heart is feeling. Why should you have to suffer because you have feelings for someone? If you can get her away from her boyfriend, then it was worth it.
 
Originally posted by: minendo
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
I'm starting to wonder if people on these forums know what 'dating' is an what 'dating' is not.
It took you this long to start wondering. 90% of the dating/girl advice on this forum is from guys that have never had a date or girlfriend.

Rofl.
 
This is not a thread seeking advice, it is a discussion on peoples opinion.

If i was John, i will not be committed to mary until she is broken off with peter.

The point of "she did it to him, she'll probably do it to you." is not legit.

Chances are your mom and your dad went through something like this themselfs, but they are together aren;t they? It is the point of dating. It is when you get married you decided that you have found the best "option" for yourself and that your are gonna stop searching for others.
 
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: Ynog
Well this all depends.

John and Peter are friends - no brainer NO.

However if they aren't friends. Peter is going to be pissed, and John might want to watch out.
Ring or not, a relationship is a relationship.

Second problem, if Mary is in a relationship and is willing to stray, then whats to say she won't
find someone better than John down the road and John will then be in Peters position (probably bitching
about how someone is trying to steal his girlfriend).

Jesus Christ people. Isn't the point of DATING to find 'someone better down the road'? If you don't find someone better or find yourself not bothering to look then that means you're more than likely with the right person.

I'm starting to wonder if people on these forums know what 'dating' is an what 'dating' is not.

If you are unsatisfied with your relationship, you end it and then look for a better mate. You do not hang onto the old one 'just in case maybe I can't do better' and keep looking.
 
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