is it time to start wearing full-body armor in public?

brianmanahan

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since violence is bad and getting worse, maybe it is time to research and produce full-body armor to wear in public?

knights wore armor out in public in the middle ages, and perhaps we can do the same now.

something carbon-fiber based, lightweight, that covers your entire body and allows you to see and hear and breathe but can stop bullets or knives.

i know if there were something like this for under 10$k, i would buy and wear it outside of the house.

advanced cultures in science fiction find ways to protect themselves from unexpected harm. that is the next step for humans - nullify the effects of violence by becoming impervious to it.
 

MongGrel

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There are tailored suits someone posted that are made with Kevlar strands that someone posted awhile back, but they were pretty expensive and something made more for a high priority type of target.

Silly to worry about it in general of course.
 

Jaskalas

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since violence is bad and getting worse, maybe it is time to research and produce full-body armor to wear in public?

knights wore armor...

Knights could defend themselves. That means offense. No body armor is going to save you from a gunman that has physical control over you and/or your location. They can hit you once to stun you, then again in the head when you are an easy target.

Armor can help, but it isn't the end-all.
 
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since violence is bad and getting worse, maybe it is time to research and produce full-body armor to wear in public?

knights wore armor out in public in the middle ages, and perhaps we can do the same now.

something carbon-fiber based, lightweight, that covers your entire body and allows you to see and hear and breathe but can stop bullets or knives.

i know if there were something like this for under 10$k, i would buy and wear it outside of the house.

advanced cultures in science fiction find ways to protect themselves from unexpected harm. that is the next step for humans - nullify the effects of violence by becoming impervious to it.
Last I recall it has been shown overall gun violence and crime has been on a steady decline.

Of course, the media has no problem acting as if the opposite is true.
 

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Privately owned body armor is illegal in many jurisdictions because police worry it will encourage an arms race. If you're worried about a specific person or persons shooting you call the police. If there isn't a specific threat the police can't reasonably be expected to protect you but there is only so much you're allowed to do to protect yourself.
 

highland145

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I went to walmart today and I thought that was already happening until I realized that they were just the normal morbidly obese Americans.
 

highland145

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Last I recall it has been shown overall gun violence and crime has been on a steady decline.

Of course, the media has no problem acting as if the opposite is true.
Damned gun violence...

Captain Eric Abdullah says the couple met up with the deceased and the suspect through Craigslist.
“It was determined that they were responding to a Craigslist ad referenced to a vehicle purchase, and they came here to purchase a vehicle where they met two suspects one of them being the deceased,” Abdullah explained.
At some point during the meeting the 2 black men pulled out weapons and demanded money from the couple.
It was then that the woman pulled out a gun and shot and killed Frazier.
Abdullah says the investigation is ongoing and no charges have been filed at this point.
...with a happy ending.
 

sportage

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Like I said before, DO YOU FEEL LUCKY? WELL, DO YOU?

Every time you leave the house, you kids leave the house, your spouse leaves the house you must ask yourself, DO I FELL LUCKY today?

On your way to McDonalds? Well, DO I FELL LUCKY?
Kids off to school? Well, DO THEY FELL LUCKY?
Wife off to work? Well, DOES SHE FELL LUCKY?
Going to church? Well, DO YOU FELL LUCKY?

That is the question you must ask yourself every day.
Why?
Because one thing every shooting tragedy has in common, the one common dominator, are the survivors later saying, " I never imagined this could happen to me. I never imagined this could happen in my community".

So... Do "you" feel lucky?
 

master_shake_

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Like I said before, DO YOU FEEL LUCKY? WELL, DO YOU?

Every time you leave the house, you kids leave the house, your spouse leaves the house you must ask yourself, DO I FELL LUCKY today?

On your way to McDonalds? Well, DO I FELL LUCKY?
Kids off to school? Well, DO THEY FELL LUCKY?
Wife off to work? Well, DOES SHE FELL LUCKY?
Going to church? Well, DO YOU FELL LUCKY?

That is the question you must ask yourself every day.
Why?
Because one thing every shooting tragedy has in common, the one common dominator, are the survivors later saying, " I never imagined this could happen to me. I never imagined this could happen in my community".

So... Do "you" feel lucky?


i think falling isn't lucky.

i think you should start by wearing a panda bear suit.

no one would shoot a panda bear.

they're endangered you know.
 

kage69

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In public? No. That's a little paranoid.

I call it prudent to wear protection when visiting a public shooting range though.

Be it a freak ricochet or just some numbnuts not knowing the first thing about gun safety and sweeping me with his barrel, a ballistic plate and carrier can be comforting. AR500s are inexpensive and good at what they do, plus they don't get funky with odor like Kevlar, can take more than one hit, and have a longer lifespan in general.
 

Hoober

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Privately owned body armor is illegal in many jurisdictions because police worry it will encourage an arms race. If you're worried about a specific person or persons shooting you call the police. If there isn't a specific threat the police can't reasonably be expected to protect you but there is only so much you're allowed to do to protect yourself.

Where? In Soviet Russia?

You may purchase body armor in the United States without threat of prosecution.

Whether or not you wear it is a different matter. You will also need to decide what level of protection you need. For a San Bernadino type event, you would need to be wearing a tactical vest capable of carrying level iv plates.
 

Fenixgoon

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Considering there are innumerable deadly events that are far more likely to happen to you, no.

Violent crime has been dropping for 20 years nonstop
 

kage69

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since violence is bad and getting worse, maybe it is time to research and produce full-body armor to wear in public?

knights wore armor out in public in the middle ages, and perhaps we can do the same now.

something carbon-fiber based, lightweight, that covers your entire body and allows you to see and hear and breathe but can stop bullets or knives.

i know if there were something like this for under 10$k, i would buy and wear it outside of the house.

advanced cultures in science fiction find ways to protect themselves from unexpected harm. that is the next step for humans - nullify the effects of violence by becoming impervious to it.

Forgot to mention the STF stuff http://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/liquid-body-armor/ How cool would it be to have complete coverage, no restriction of movement and better protection than Kevlar? Just wait till they combine it with active camouflage.

Also, I forget the name of the place/guy, but there is an outfit based out of Columbia that is hardcore about blending protection with normal clothing. It's like an old school English tailor who customizes clothing for you, but it's all knife and bullet resistant stuff. Check it out. Bed ways is right ways for me.
 

michal1980

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Like I said before, DO YOU FEEL LUCKY? WELL, DO YOU?

Every time you leave the house, you kids leave the house, your spouse leaves the house you must ask yourself, DO I FELL LUCKY today?

On your way to McDonalds? Well, DO I FELL LUCKY?
Kids off to school? Well, DO THEY FELL LUCKY?
Wife off to work? Well, DOES SHE FELL LUCKY?
Going to church? Well, DO YOU FELL LUCKY?

That is the question you must ask yourself every day.
Why?
Because one thing every shooting tragedy has in common, the one common dominator, are the survivors later saying, " I never imagined this could happen to me. I never imagined this could happen in my community".

So... Do "you" feel lucky?

live in fear much?
 

UglyCasanova

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I guess if you are that paranoid go for it. I personally don't feel any less safe after a terrorist attack or mass shooting, where I feel less safe is when I'm in a seedy part of town.
 

brianmanahan

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Forgot to mention the STF stuff http://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/liquid-body-armor/ How cool would it be to have complete coverage, no restriction of movement and better protection than Kevlar? Just wait till they combine it with active camouflage.

Also, I forget the name of the place/guy, but there is an outfit based out of Columbia that is hardcore about blending protection with normal clothing. It's like an old school English tailor who customizes clothing for you, but it's all knife and bullet resistant stuff. Check it out. Bed ways is right ways for me.

nice, this is what i want to see!
 

BonzaiDuck

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I may be more alert now that I go out.

But in such circumstances as these, I take comfort in the scene ending the movie "Hombre" with Paul Newman, when he faces down the villainous Richard Boone with six guns.

"Mister? You got a lotta hard bark on you."

"Everybody's got to die sometime. It's just a matter of 'when.'"

[Bang! Bang! Bang! Bang! Bang!]

. . . . "This one [the Mexican] is still alive!"

"I won . . . to know . . . hees name . . . "

If you can't "carry," then another movie: "Duck You Sucka!"

Much of the 20th century was spent in reducing this type of risk, while we lived under an appalling level of it worrying about the Bomb. You can't expect life in the world to be entirely risk-free. If you tried to achieve total risk-lessness, you'd go bankrupt. Which . . . we could have done with the cost of Iraq, only to open Pandora's Box.

What does Israel do? They've been living under this type of stress for decades. Note that they've kept a low profile concerning ISIS. How that relates to their stunning win against Syria in the tank battles of the 60s, I can't say. What was it called? The "Seven Days' War?"