Is it time for the left to take a look at its own hateful rhetoric?

[hal2kilo]

That makes no sense whatsoever. We're CONSTANTLY being told the right's rhetoric could lead to violence. What we DON'T see is anyone holding the left accountable for their rhetoric. Of course the right is a bunch of bigoted racist people who want to kill everyone. What we need to point out is the left is the same way.

God you're clueless. He was pissed because Discovery Channel wasn't pushing a more extreme position on population control.

Also, he was obviously a psychotic. In other words there's no logic to his delusion. He'd been babling in the coffee shop across the street for weeks.

How many left ideas have gotten doctors murdered?

 

[nick1985]

The Discovery channel attacker situation was the top story on CNN's website when it happened.

You completely (on purpose?) missed my point.


If this was a tea party activist, the mainstream media would still be running with the story trying to smear the tea party.

Since it was a left-wing nutjob, the mainstream media has been doing a pretty good job of keeping his motives hush hush, you dont hear much about it.

Of course CNN covered the hostage crisis, thats not what I'm talking about

 

[Moonbeam]

On the one issue of global climate change, since Republicans made it a political issue and induced millions of the brain dead to support it and thereby threatening all life on earth, why shouldn't folk be angry enough to kill them. Isn't it just self defense and helping Darwin to weed out feeble-mindedness?

 

[zsdersw]

You completely (on purpose?) missed my point.


If this was a tea party activist, the mainstream media would still be running with the story trying to smear the tea party.

Since it was a left-wing nutjob, the mainstream media has been doing a pretty good job of keeping his motives hush hush, you dont hear much about it.

Of course CNN covered the hostage crisis, thats not what I'm talking about

Okay, here's what you initially said:

If this guy was a tea party activist the news would have been all over this story like flies on shit.

Since he was a left-wing environmentalist that looked up to Al Gore, hardly a word was said about it by the mainstream media.


Double standard

.. to which I replied that CNN, largely considered a part of the "mainstream media", was "all over this story", since they featured it as the top story.

Nothing in your post suggested that it was the wacko's background/motives, instead of the entire situation itself, that wasn't being mentioned in the mainstream media.

 

[zsdersw]

It already has. Its been put out on every major news organization on the planet. While the left wing shit that produces people strapping bombs to themselves gets no attention at all.

The amount of violence coming out of the left in the name of enviromental causes seems to be climbing at an alarming rate. While we keep being told that the Tea Party is going to kill every minority person around we never see it. It seems the people who tend to act out on their violence tend to be extreme left leaning people.. a lot of whom seem to read Al Gore's book's for some reason.

Your post suggested that the Left needs to look inward at its rhetoric. I said that the Right needs to look inward at its rhetoric too.

News organization reports about the Tea Party != looking inward at one's own rhetoric.

The Right needs to reevaluate its rhetoric, instead of the Left's.
The Left needs to reevaluate its rhetoric, instead of the Right's.

Understand?

 

[IGBT]

with liberals it's not the weight of evidence that matters. Only the seriousness of the charge and allegation. Evidence has no merit if it doesn't support the agenda.

 

[zsdersw]

Only the seriousness of the charge and allegation. Evidence has no merit if it doesn't support the agenda.

The same is very often true of conservatives.

 

[her209]

You completely (on purpose?) missed my point.

If this was a tea party activist, the mainstream media would still be running with the story trying to smear the tea party.

Since it was a left-wing nutjob, the mainstream media has been doing a pretty good job of keeping his motives hush hush, you dont hear much about it.

Of course CNN covered the hostage crisis, thats not what I'm talking about

LAWLZ

Playing the "Victim" card and "Liberal Media" card in the same post.

Well done?

 

[nick1985]

LAWLZ

Playing the "Victim" card and "Liberal Media" card in the same post.

Well done?

LULZ! Victim card not found.

You really dont think that if this was a tea party activist it wouldn't be plastered all over MSNBC?

Instead his motives have been swept under the rug

 

[her209]

LULZ! Victim card not found.

You really dont think that if this was a tea party activist it wouldn't be plastered all over MSNBC?

Instead his motives have been swept under the rug

Victim card.

 

[dmcowen674]

Of course not. That would mean accountability. That is not what they are about. NOT NOW, NOT EVER.

Why should Democrats take accountability for Republicans that put the country into this destroyed state?

 

[zinfamous]

Right...less dangerous. Like when years of anti-war rhetoric pulls us out of Vietnam when we were finally getting the upper hand there, ultimately leading to the death of millions and brutal "reeducation" of others as the Communists rolled in.

lol. Vietnam was not lost at home. That's one sad case of revisionism.
Hell, as history, this argument didn't even show up until the early 80s. Sure, you have policy wanks bitching about hippies and the anti-war movement during the war, but blame was never cast in force long after the fact--it's merely to assuage the guilt of failed military and social strategy.
There's also not a single documented case of an actual hippie spitting on a returned soldier. Like the supposed bra-burnings of the feminist movement, these events are nothing more than urban myth (truth--not a single bra was ever burned for feminism; no soldier was ever documented as being spat upon), created years after the actual movement by those expressing anger over their own failed policy, or attempts to counter the movements that brought them some manner of supposed grief.



seriously, hearing this from a Col and veteran of the Vietnam war the other day, the first "documented" suggestion of a Vet being spat on by a US citizen was actually in the film, "First Blood," during John Rambo's tirade about being treated like shit when he returned. This guy recently published a book about the Vietnam home front, and he never found a single documented case of the type of soldier abuse that we now tend to believe was quite common during that time. Personally, he didn't remember such things, so the current cultural mythology about those years was always at odds. :\

 

[her209]

Right...less dangerous. Like when years of anti-war rhetoric pulls us out of Vietnam when we were finally getting the upper hand there, ultimately leading to the death of millions and brutal "reeducation" of others as the Communists rolled in.

Where did those millions die?
Was the US government involved there?
If there was involvement, did the US public know about it?

 

[Fear No Evil]

Your post suggested that the Left needs to look inward at its rhetoric. I said that the Right needs to look inward at its rhetoric too.

News organization reports about the Tea Party != looking inward at one's own rhetoric.

The Right needs to reevaluate its rhetoric, instead of the Left's.
The Left needs to reevaluate its rhetoric, instead of the Right's.

Understand?

Ok, then let me clarify as well. Not only do the left need to look internally, but we need news organizations to actually REPORT about the violence produced by the left's rhetoric instead of covering it up and excusing it.

 

[nick1985]

Victim card.

I thought you would dance around the question instead of answering it

 

[Fear No Evil]

Why should Democrats take accountability for Republicans that put the country into this destroyed state?

I think democrats should take responsibility for $5 milk and having to sign forms to buy vinegar.

 

[Tom]

How are "anarchists" far left ?

 

[zsdersw]

Ok, then let me clarify as well. Not only do the left need to look internally, but we need news organizations to actually REPORT about the violence produced by the left's rhetoric instead of covering it up and excusing it.

Do you think the Right should look inward at its rhetoric too?

 

[Fear No Evil]

Do you think the Right should look inward at its rhetoric too?

Create a thread about it and maybe I'll respond.

 

[hal2kilo]

What quantifies a " Normal American" ?

The people who think they know what a Normal American is. Just ask them.

Also, they give you dirtly looks if you don't take your ball cap off and put it over your heart at a baseball game.

 

[zsdersw]

Create a thread about it and maybe I'll respond.

Just as I suspected...

 

[Fear No Evil]

Just as I suspected...

I don't want to participate in your thread diversion?

 

[CallMeJoe]

lol. Vietnam was not lost at home. That's one sad case of revisionism.
Hell, as history, this argument didn't even show up until the early 80s. Sure, you have policy wanks bitching about hippies and the anti-war movement during the war, but blame was never cast in force long after the fact--it's merely to assuage the guilt of failed military and social strategy.
There's also not a single documented case of an actual hippie spitting on a returned soldier. Like the supposed bra-burnings of the feminist movement, these events are nothing more than urban myth (truth--not a single bra was ever burned for feminism; no soldier was ever documented as being spat upon), created years after the actual movement by those expressing anger over their own failed policy, or attempts to counter the movements that brought them some manner of supposed grief.



seriously, hearing this from a Col and veteran of the Vietnam war the other day, the first "documented" suggestion of a Vet being spat on by a US citizen was actually in the film, "First Blood," during John Rambo's tirade about being treated like shit when he returned. This guy recently published a book about the Vietnam home front, and he never found a single documented case of the type of soldier abuse that we now tend to believe was quite common during that time. Personally, he didn't remember such things, so the current cultural mythology about those years was always at odds. :\

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
The reason the War in Vietnam failed was indeed political; we might have stood some chance of defeating the North Vietnamese and Viet Cong had the South Vietnamese government not been every bit as brutal and oppressive as their opposition and far more corrupt.

FWIW, I am a Vietnam era veteran; I served four years stateside and frequently wore my uniform in public. I was never in any way ill treated while in uniform by anyone.

 

[Jhhnn]

Ok, then let me clarify as well. Not only do the left need to look internally, but we need news organizations to actually REPORT about the violence produced by the left's rhetoric instead of covering it up and excusing it.

So now it's the victim card and a conspiracy? Well done!

It really happens all the time, except the libruhl media is covering it up... That's why you had to resort to false attribution to come up with a single example...

Do you have any idea how nuts that really is?

 

[boomerang]

Liberals' Sticks and Stones Losing Potency

[FONT=times new roman,times][FONT=times new roman,times]Not only will Americans seek to overturn virtually all of what Obama sought or gained, but now they will also discount being corralled by liberal labels. Revolting against government abuse through strong armed tactics is what gave rise to the Tea Party movement. Whether that particular movement remains is beside the point, because now the spirit it embodies has emboldened the majority of this nation to stand firm on its core values. It is a battle liberals have now completely lost for multiple generations.[/FONT]


[FONT=times new roman,times]Worse again, it was the liberals' own words that not just hurt but, in fact, crippled them.[/FONT]
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Death, taxes, and the liberals killing their own cause. All sure things.