Is it really worth it?

Zenmervolt

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I've been thinking about this a lot lately. Are we really meant to live the way we do? Are the choices that we're making in this modern society really the ones that are the best for us in terms of happiness and the things that "really matter" in life?

I see this at work a lot, and a major re-org meeting the other day really drove it home because of some things our new COO (Chief Operating Officer) said. We, as a whole, are choosing to take the best years of our lives, the years when we're young and vital and capable of really enjoying _life_, and grinding ourselves into the ground because we're chasing after a few more zeros on the number in our bank accounts. We're sacrificing our youth and our energy for money and neglecting our own happiness, and through some strange inversion of perception, we think we're better off this way because we can buy more stuff or be more comfortable with the bills we have to pay.

I'm buying right into this too. I'm 23. I work 60 hours a week minimum and start each morning by being in the office at 4 am (awake at 3 am). I knew exactly what was expected when I took the job and I was actually happy to take it because it pays well, has great benefits, and if I work my arse off, I can "go places" (whatever the hell that means, I used to think I knew). I'm kicking butt at the job too. Getting rave reviews from everyone involved and my co-workers love me. But it just doesn't seem to be worth it. I come home every day too tired to cook a decent dinner. I wake up each morning swearing at the alarm clock, and leave the office every evening tense and angry.

It's been a steady, slow, downhill since I started the job and anymore I really think that it's a shame I can't just leave and become a farmer or something. There's a reward to hard work. The best job I ever had was doing landscape and grounds work at a state park. I worked hard for 9 hours a day, but had something to show for my work and had time to have a life of my own when I was done at the end of the day. The more I get into the corporate world, the more I believe that we've cheated ourselves by choosing this kind of life.

It's funny. I'm exactly where I thought I wanted to be when I was younger. Except I'm not happy.

Anyone else feel the same way? Is all this really worth it if we have no time to really live?

ZV

P.S. No, there will not be Cliff's Notes. Deal with it.
 

Platypus

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No, it isn't worth it.

This is why you must live every day of your pointless little life to the fullest and try to get as much enjoyment out of it that you can before you die and are forgotten.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
become a farmer or something.

Don't be a farmer, be a shepherd.

Edit:
I made a conscious choice NOT to do what you're doing. I could have gotten a job in NY or DC making more than I am now, but I'd hate my life.
 

drum

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Thats what is scary for me. i'm 23 and working hard trying to GET into the miserable position you're describing. I know that exact same thing will happen when I get there.

I think it is more of social acceptance trying to get into the corporate world, so my friends and society sees me as a success. my physical labor job literally beats the crap out of me every day and i long for a desk job. i'm screwed either way, but at least now I have some free time except for friday nights
 

Descartes

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I'm busting my arse now working 80+ hours a week on large projects, and I do this in the absence of those I care about (I travel a lot). The plus side is that I will retire very early and will therefore be able to pursue that which inspires me. I also get to take care of my family in ways not otherwise possible.

So, for me, yes it's worth it. I will suffer the short-term to realize greater gains in the long-term. It all depends on what you value the most....
 

Neurorelay

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Find meaning in the little things. Life is jsut a sereis of little events punctuated by big spurts of nuttin.
 

Koing

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I'd rather be poor and with my gf/ friends and family then rich and without them...
 

sharkeeper

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Couldn't be doing better. As a matter of fact changes are coming soon that will make it better than it's ever been! Life's been good! Carry on!
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: Descartes
I'm busting my arse now working 80+ hours a week on large projects, and I do this in the absence of those I care about (I travel a lot). The plus side is that I will retire very early and will therefore be able to pursue that which inspires me. I also get to take care of my family in ways not otherwise possible.

So, for me, yes it's worth it. I will suffer the short-term to realize greater gains in the long-term. It all depends on what you value the most....

But you have to have the self-discipline to say you have enough money and let yourself enjoy the rest of your life.
 

Ameesh

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honestly i work hard now so i wont have to when i am 40 years old, i'll be able to spend time with my family and friends and enjoy life, i figure i had a reak until i was 18, i'll work my ass of from 18-40 and coast the rest of my life. chasing the zeros in your bank account now will set you up later.
 

judasmachine

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we're animals, everything around us is artificial. we weren't meant to live this way at all. it's like we all built a flying machine and jumped in to test it and shoved off a cliff. now that we see it isn't flying, we wish we had invented a parachute first.
 

ivol07

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I know how you feel. Try and find happiness in the people you love and the things you like to do. Even if it's only for 5 minutes while you're taking a break from work.
 

Descartes

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: Descartes
I'm busting my arse now working 80+ hours a week on large projects, and I do this in the absence of those I care about (I travel a lot). The plus side is that I will retire very early and will therefore be able to pursue that which inspires me. I also get to take care of my family in ways not otherwise possible.

So, for me, yes it's worth it. I will suffer the short-term to realize greater gains in the long-term. It all depends on what you value the most....

But you have to have the self-discipline to say you have enough money and let yourself enjoy the rest of your life.

I would wager that, for most people, this isn't a problem; of course, you have those that actually enjoy their work (like myself) who might still work even when not necessary. Happiness then comes from having a choice, and it's having a choice that leads those to work that is most meaningful to them.
 

Coquito

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Dream of somewhere you're not, then go there.

If you're not happy, or making someone else content, you're not living.
 

Attrox

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Same feeling here :(
I've been dreaming to just stop doing what I'm doing, pack my bag and just travel. But you need $ for that unfortunately.