Is it possible to sum up the motives for piracy in one cartoon?

SlitheryDee

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This is true. That's only one motive though, and probably not the one driving most piracy.
 
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nageov3t

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I don't feel morally bad if I pirate something prior to the release date and then later buy it.
 

ric1287

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That might explain piracy, but it doesn't justify it.

The old endless loop of arguments. They have a shitty business model that is easily fixable. They refuse to fix it. Piracy exists.

If piracy gets them to fix shitty business model, then awesome. Until then, I won't feel bad for em
 

Bignate603

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Sep 5, 2000
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That might explain piracy, but it doesn't justify it.

Exactly. People act like it's their right to watch something. It's not your content so so you have no "right" to watch it whenever and on whatever (on cable, internet, disc, etc) you want. If you don't like the terms the owner provides then don't watch it.
 

mugs

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Apr 29, 2003
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yep, god forbid the industry adapts or anything

Adapt to what?


The old endless loop of arguments. They have a shitty business model that is easily fixable. They refuse to fix it. Piracy exists.

If piracy gets them to fix shitty business model, then awesome. Until then, I won't feel bad for em

They've changed substantially. The only things mentioned in that comic that even existed 10 years ago are Netflix (no streaming) and DVDs.

Piracy will exist as long as they're charging money for their product.
 
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Bignate603

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The old endless loop of arguments. They have a shitty business model that is easily fixable. They refuse to fix it. Piracy exists.

If piracy gets them to fix shitty business model, then awesome. Until then, I won't feel bad for em

Piracy doesn't fix the business model, it gives them another means of supporting it through ridiculous fines and lawsuits. The most effective way to get them to change is to simply stop watching their content. Support content providers that make their stuff available in the format that you want and ignore the ones that don't.
 

lxskllr

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Nov 30, 2004
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Exactly. People act like it's their right to watch something. It's not your content so so you have no "right" to watch it whenever and on whatever (on cable, internet, disc, etc) you want. If you don't like the terms the owner provides then don't watch it.

And companies think they're entitled to money forever. They've perverted the concept of copyright beyond recognition. If they don't care to look after my rights, I don't care to look after theirs.
 

Bignate603

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And companies think they're entitled to money forever. They've perverted the concept of copyright beyond recognition. If they don't care to look after my rights, I don't care to look after theirs.

What rights do you have to something that someone else created?
 

SirStev0

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Nov 13, 2003
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They have drug their feet with incredible vigor. Fuck if they put 1% of their effort into just fixing shit it would already be 100% better.

Netflix has done wonders to curb my piracy because it works much better than I ever imagined and has great selection..
and not surprising the cable companies and telecommunication giants are trying their damnest to now control the net with legislation so they can curb the "bandwidth issues" caused by sites like netflix.

It amazes me how well netflix is able to stream things vs. EVERYTHING EVER. Even peak hours it loads amazingly. Even youtube chokes dick compared to netflix.

Huge truth in this cartoon.
Adapt to what?




They've changed substantially. The only things mentioned in that comic that even existed 10 years ago are Netflix (no streaming) and DVDs.

Piracy will exist as long as they're charging money for their product.
 

lxskllr

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What rights do you have to something that someone else created?

I have every right to it granted by the US Constitution, and centuries of common law. Copyright is a monopoly granted for a LIMITED time to recoup costs, and make a profit. It's then to go into the public domain to enrich culture, and further civilization. It's NOT meant to give companies a perpetual monopoly to benefit only the company.
 

HamburgerBoy

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Apr 12, 2004
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I have every right to it granted by the US Constitution, and centuries of common law. Copyright is a monopoly granted for a LIMITED time to recoup costs, and make a profit. It's then to go into the public domain to enrich culture, and further civilization. It's NOT meant to give companies a perpetual monopoly to benefit only the company.

In the context of a television show that has been around less than a year, that's kind of a moot point.
 

Cuda1447

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I have every right to it granted by the US Constitution, and centuries of common law. Copyright is a monopoly granted for a LIMITED time to recoup costs, and make a profit. It's then to go into the public domain to enrich culture, and further civilization. It's NOT meant to give companies a perpetual monopoly to benefit only the company.

I like your logic.... but my rights go something like this.


I can watch the shit for free. I just can. If you don't want me to, make it more convenient for me to buy it. And here's a hint. Don't try to make it more difficult for me to get it, I'm a pro at that. Just work on making it convenient. A good start would be to stop with the damn greed.


At some point in time, businesses went from wanting to make a profit, to wanting to make a huge fucking profit. No longer is it sufficient to pay hugely inflated salaries of actors along with the rest of the movie producing crew. But now they want to pay all these salaries, pay for 500 million in marketing AND make another 500 million on top of that. You'd think these mega industries would be content make I dunno, 20 mil on a film? Nope, MASSIVE greed has taken over. Must charge for more than need be to make the biggest fucking profit possible.


Well shit. I'll just pirate it then.
 

Bignate603

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Sep 5, 2000
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I have every right to it granted by the US Constitution, and centuries of common law. Copyright is a monopoly granted for a LIMITED time to recoup costs, and make a profit. It's then to go into the public domain to enrich culture, and further civilization. It's NOT meant to give companies a perpetual monopoly to benefit only the company.

That statement really has nothing to do with the stuff that people are pirating. Who is arguing that we should be able to freely distribute 50 year old TV shows? The stuff that people are pirating is relatively recent, well within a reasonable period when the original content owner should be protected.
 

lxskllr

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That statement really has nothing to do with the stuff that people are pirating. Who is arguing that we should be able to freely distribute 50 year old TV shows? The stuff that people are pirating is relatively recent, well within a reasonable period when the original content owner should be protected.

Yea? That's funny. I got a copyright notice from a YouTube video I posted. It was a radio show that was made during WWII...
 

Bignate603

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Sep 5, 2000
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I like your logic.... but my rights go something like this.


I can watch the shit for free. I just can. If you don't want me to, make it more convenient for me to buy it. And here's a hint. Don't try to make it more difficult for me to get it, I'm a pro at that. Just work on making it convenient. A good start would be to stop with the damn greed.


At some point in time, businesses went from wanting to make a profit, to wanting to make a huge fucking profit. No longer is it sufficient to pay hugely inflated salaries of actors along with the rest of the movie producing crew. But now they want to pay all these salaries, pay for 500 million in marketing AND make another 500 million on top of that. You'd think these mega industries would be content make I dunno, 20 mil on a film? Nope, MASSIVE greed has taken over. Must charge for more than need be to make the biggest fucking profit possible.


Well shit. I'll just pirate it then.

Again, you don't have a right to watch whatever you want. If you feel the cost is unreasonable it doesn't give you the right to pirate it. However, you do have the right to take your dollars and give them to something that is doing what you want.

The simplest solution to all of this is to vote with your dollars. The corporations follow the money. If the public refused to pay their prices the prices would come down.