Is it possible to oppose gays in today's society?

[JSt0rm]

It's no less an orientation than homosexuality, according to Hal's link. Should we penalize them for being at the mercy of their orientation? Are they second-class citizens as gays apparently were before they were accepted?

The only thing keeping them from happiness is society's bigoted insistence that teenagers younger than 18 cannot consent to sexual activity.

You would get a f in debate class for this stupid shit.

 

[brycejones]

It's no less an orientation than homosexuality, according to Hal's link. Should we penalize them for being at the mercy of their orientation? Are they second-class citizens as gays apparently were before they were accepted?

The only thing keeping them from happiness is society's bigoted insistence that teenagers younger than 18 cannot consent to sexual activity.

Why is it in almost thread about homosexuality some dipshit goes done the pedophile route?

Good job you have outed yourself as intellectually disabled.

 

[JSt0rm]

Atreus21: please tell us about the first time you thought about gay men touching and kissing each other.

 

[UberNeuman]

Maybe the op and texashiker should go have a beer and talk in great detail about all the gay sex they think is disgusting and dirty. Bet within 2 beers they are hooking up in a room.

Their love was forbidden by a cruel, judgemental world! Their deep, throbbing passions would not be contained!

E. L. James presents: The Salty Seaman and the Hard Wood Elf.

 

[Atreus21]

You would get a f in debate class for this stupid shit.

Why is it in almost thread about homosexuality some dipshit goes done the pedophile route?

Good job you have outed yourself as intellectually disabled.

Anybody got anything on the merits?

 

[Atreus21]

Atreus21: please tell us about the first time you thought about gay men touching and kissing each other.

I dunno. Long time ago.

 

[JSt0rm]

I dunno. Long time ago.

Go on...

 

[JSt0rm]

Anybody got anything on the merits?

The merits of your argument that you think adults should be able to fuck children? no.

 

[Perknose]

I can accept someone having a rational discussion about gay adoption...

Cool. Let's have one that is factual and scientifically rigorous. It's time to put the ignorant canard that having gay parents is harmful to an adopted child's development to rest.

Predictors of Psychological Adjustment in Early Placed Adopted Children With Lesbian, Gay, and Heterosexual Parents

Family type is not a predictor of a child’s psychological adjustment among early placed adopted children with lesbian, gay or heterosexual parents. An estimated 16,000 same-sex couples are raising more than 22,000 adopted children in the U.S., and these findings indicate that these children will likely fare no differently, as a result of their family type, than those being raised by heterosexual parents. This study examines aspects of the pre- and post-adoptive contexts in relation to child adjustment in 120 two-parent adoptive families (i.e., 40 female same-sex, 35 male same-sex, and 45 different-sex couples who adopted their children). All 120 couples were adopting their first child, and in all cases it was a single child under the age of 1.5 years.

Gays adopt kids that others pass by, which serves a desperate need, and since no harm ensues, this a good thing in and of itself.

Catholic opposition aside, research suggests that gay and lesbian parents are actually a powerful resource for kids in need of adoption. According to a 2007 report by the Williams Institute and the Urban Institute, 65,000 kids were living with adoptive gay parents between 2000 and 2002, with another 14,000 in foster homes headed by gays and lesbians. (There are currently more than 100,000 kids in foster care in the U.S.)

An October 2011 report by Evan B. Donaldson Adoption Institute found that, of gay and lesbian adoptions at more than 300 agencies, 10 percent of the kids placed were older than 6 — typically a very difficult age to adopt out. About 25 percent were older than 3. Sixty percent of gay and lesbian couples adopted across races, which is important given that minority children in the foster system tend to linger. More than half of the kids adopted by gays and lesbians had special needs.

AMHERST, Mass. - A new study by psychology researchers suggests that whether parents are gay, lesbian or straight, how well they work together as a couple and support each other in parenting is linked to fewer behavior problems among their adopted children and is more important than their sexual orientation.

The best predictor of child behavior problems was competition between the parents and dissatisfaction with child care labor divisions, which were not related to parents' sexual orientation.

But, but, but . . . it'll turn 'em gaaaay (not.)

The American Psychological Association also states "Research suggests that sexual identities (including gender identity, gender-role behavior, and sexual orientation) develop in much the same ways among children of lesbian mothers as they do among children of heterosexual parents."

Haters and bigots, guess what. YOU have no empirical foundation for your ignorant bigorty.

According to the American Psychological Association Policy Statement on Sexual Orientation, Parents, & Children, "there is no reliable evidence that homosexual orientation per se impairs psychological functioning. Second, beliefs that lesbian and gay adults are not fit parents have no empirical foundation."

 

[Atreus21]

The merits of your argument that you think adults should be able to fuck children? no.

I don't think that. I couch the terms of the argument in the same rhetoric as that used to defend and justify homosexuality.

The point is that we're relying on arbitrary standards. The logic used to establish gay marriage is just as easily adapted to any type of relationship, and the only thing truly standing in the way is society's "ick" factor, which is called bigotry when applied to homosexuality, but is somehow the height of common sense when applied to pedophilia.

 

[JSt0rm]

This thread is actually a really good barometer. This place is pretty social conservative and the few hold outs in this thread got their assholes pounded (dont they wish). Im glad to see we are changing as a culture. Now we just need to get some of these racial issues dealt with. That may take another generation.

 

[JSt0rm]

I don't think that. I couch the terms of the argument in the same rhetoric as that used to defend and justify homosexuality.

but people are talking about 2 or more consenting adults or like in your case the 2 boys in the back of the bathroom jerking each other off. 😎

we are not talking about preying upon tender aged children for sexual gratification. Thats so far out in left field it doesnt even warrant a conversation.

 

[MajinCry]

we are not talking about preying upon tender aged children for sexual gratification. Thats so far out in left field it doesnt even warrant a conversation.

Was gonna post something to that effect right the now, but 'ey, ya got 'ere before I did.

Good show ol' buddy ol' pal.

 

[brycejones]

Anybody got anything on the merits?

When you have somethig with merits to duscuss let us know.

 

[Atreus21]

we are not talking about preying upon tender aged children for sexual gratification. Thats so far out in left field it doesnt even warrant a conversation.

Evidently not, per Hal's link.

 

[JSt0rm]

i dont even know what that means. And dont break quotes.

 

[Linux23]

By your definition, kissing is equally "unnatural," regardless of sexual orientation. The mouth was designed for eating and vocalization, and, in your case perhaps, breathing . . . mouth breathing.

And don't get me started on French kissing. The tongue was never "designed" for probing another's tongue.






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thanks for commenting on a deleted comment.

 

[Linux23]

How does anyone take you seriously when you use words like "irregardless"?

too stupid not to know the word? that's on you sir.

 

[mikeymikec]

thanks for commenting on a deleted comment.

If you checked the times, you would have noticed that he responded before the moderation took place.

 

[Linux23]

people that spend their time resenting gay people for being gay are gay.

oddly i don't hate the gays at all.

 

[JSt0rm]

too stupid not to know the word? that's on you sir.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irregardless

grammar nazis love that word.

 

[Linux23]

If you checked the times, you would have noticed that he responded before the moderation took place.

i checked the times (i know exactly what went on). so mods allisom and forum director are not in the same opinion it seems? ridiculous.

 

[BurnItDwn]

Opposing gays is like opposing blacks or opposing females.

It is a blend of incompetence and malice.

 

[mikeymikec]

i checked the times (i know exactly what went on). so mods allisom and forum director are not in the same opinion it seems? ridiculous.

Moderators are forum users as well. Perknose was posting his personal opinion regarding the topic, allisom was acting in his capacity as moderator.

 

[Linux23]

Before I apparently get banned here. WTF is having an opinion on things so different? Ok, so some people hate the gay lifestyle. Fine, move on. They are not going to affect your life one way or the other. On the other hand some people dwell on this stuff and are willing to hurt or kill gays just because.

I don't get it at all.