Is it possible to invent a assault rifle with zero recoil?

[Fayd]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: ElFenix
does a regular .22 have recoil? been a long time since i've shot anything. if not, just add detachable magazine, folding stock, and pistol grip

OH NOES TEH SCARAY!

I would put the butt of a Ruger 10/22 up to my crotch and pull the trigger repeatedly...in fact, I have done this. It has no recoil.

Yes it does. Not much, but it does. Unless you're not shooting anything, anyway.

.22 Long Rifle? Shooting it out of a rifle? No, it doesn't.

It barely has any recoil out of a handgun.

you fail to understand the concept of recoil.

or maybe the concept of conservation of momentum. the two really are the same...

 

[Red Squirrel]

Originally posted by: Gibsons

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: RedSquirrel


I would love to fire that gun. Just to see how far I'd go flying, and how badly hurt I'd get. I never figured a gun before, but even people who seem to be experienced in fireing high powered riffles are having trouble with that one lol.

You can tell the experienced ones because they lean forward. Similar to when you fire a machine gun you have to lean into it somewhat.

One guy in the video looks like he puts the butt of the gun somewhere on his arm, near the bicep. Another guy looks like he holds the butt an inch or two away from his shoulder, instead of contacting the shoulder. I'm not sure which one would hurt worse.

lol yeah some of them totally did not fire that properly. I can't really be a judge here as I don't know much about proper gun handling, but using common sense I knew some of those positions were way wrong. one of the worse ones is the one where the butt is about an inch from his shoulder. Yeah, bad idea lol. I would assume you have to hold it pretty tightly so it does not actually hit you, it just pushes you. There's probably a proper way to avoid dislocating the shoulder as well.

 

[Modelworks]

Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
I would assume you have to hold it pretty tightly so it does not actually hit you, it just pushes you. There's probably a proper way to avoid dislocating the shoulder as well.

You always put your shoulder into it or the gun is going to gain momentum between the butt and your shoulder. So instead of the force transferring through your shoulder, you get hit by an object moving with force that then transfers through your shoulder. That is how shoulders get broken.

The other is to hold the barrel so that your other arm is as straight as possible, not bent. If the barrel is too short, put the elbow close to the chest. A bent arm is going to do what it naturally does, elbow bends down . That is how people break jaws. Gun slides off shoulder, barrel cracks them in the head or mouth.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
I would assume you have to hold it pretty tightly so it does not actually hit you, it just pushes you. There's probably a proper way to avoid dislocating the shoulder as well.

You always put your shoulder into it or the gun is going to gain momentum between the butt and your shoulder. So instead of the force transferring through your shoulder, you get hit by an object moving with force that then transfers through your shoulder. That is how shoulders get broken.

The other is to hold the barrel so that your other arm is as straight as possible, not bent. If the barrel is too short, put the elbow close to the chest. A bent arm is going to do what it naturally does, elbow bends down . That is how people break jaws. Gun slides off shoulder, barrel cracks them in the head or mouth.

Haha yeah sounds about right, seen videos of that happen. Really it's pretty much common sense.

 

[sdifox]

Gatling gun takes most of the recoil and convert it into rotational energy no?

 

[JulesMaximus]

NM...I'm arguing with morons.

 

[Lean L]

Laws of Physics says NO

 

[SuperjetMatt]

Originally posted by: Unheard
The HK G3 has very little recoil for a battle rifle due to its roller lock design. It's 7.62MM NATO.
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Have you shot one?

 

[SuperjetMatt]

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer

Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb
Did someone say recoil?

What the fuck is the point of a gun like that? It's completely impractical.

It is a one-shot stop rifle for dangerous game. That's the point.
You will hardly find anything more practical than that when hunting dangerous African game.

 

[SuperjetMatt]

Originally posted by: sdifox
Gatling gun takes most of the recoil and convert it into rotational energy no?

No.
A gatling gun uses a motor to spin the barrel assembly.

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: SuperjetMatt

Originally posted by: sdifox
Gatling gun takes most of the recoil and convert it into rotational energy no?

No.
A gatling gun uses a motor to spin the barrel assembly.

I guess what I am trying to say is you could build a gatling gun that uses the recoil to rotate the barrel. I thought the motor driven ones are called minigun?

 

[SuperjetMatt]

All guns using a rotating cylinder of barrels are called gatling guns.
The Minigun is just a model name, if you will.
And they all utilize a motor, save for the hand-cranked ones from 120 years ago.

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

Originally posted by: SuperjetMatt

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer

Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb
Did someone say recoil?

What the fuck is the point of a gun like that? It's completely impractical.

It is a one-shot stop rifle for dangerous game. That's the point.
You will hardly find anything more practical than that when hunting dangerous African game.

Interesting, yes this makes sense. Would a gun like that put an elephant or rhino down in one shot? Would anything smaller be sufficient?

 

[LTC8K6]

75mm recoilless rifle. I have a pic of my father in Korea with one of these mounted on a jeep. I think the one pictured with my dad may be the 105mm version though.

You can see the perforated shell case which lets a good portion of the gas escape rearward to counter the recoil.

http://www.rt66.com/~korteng/SmallArms/75M20.htm

http://www.robertsarmory.com/rrifle.htm

A few of these are still in use today by avalanche patrols in the US.

 

[SuperjetMatt]

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer

Originally posted by: SuperjetMatt

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer

Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb
Did someone say recoil?

What the fuck is the point of a gun like that? It's completely impractical.

It is a one-shot stop rifle for dangerous game. That's the point.
You will hardly find anything more practical than that when hunting dangerous African game.

Interesting, yes this makes sense. Would a gun like that put an elephant or rhino down in one shot? Would anything smaller be sufficient?

Shot placement is key, of course.
The typical rifle for this purpose is a large bore double rifle (2 barrels). This goes back more than 100 years.
A very fast second shot is possible, far faster than a bolt or lever gun. (Semi's don't count).
Smaller calibers can be used, but the bigger the better.

Google a 2-bore or 4-bore rifle.
The 2-Bore fires a 1/2 lb bullet.

 

[zeruty]

My MAK90 and SKS have very negligible recoil...
My Mosin-Nagant has more...
My brother's 12 gauge goose gun has a ton of recoil... hurt my shoulder after a dozen rounds.
My dad's .44 magnum revolver has a ton for a handgun, but not too much for an adult male to handle.

 

[Tim]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: ElFenix
does a regular .22 have recoil? been a long time since i've shot anything. if not, just add detachable magazine, folding stock, and pistol grip

OH NOES TEH SCARAY!

I would put the butt of a Ruger 10/22 up to my crotch and pull the trigger repeatedly...in fact, I have done this. It has no recoil.

Every darwin award winner probably starts off with small things.
:laugh:

 

[Sea Moose]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...LQpOF8&feature=related <-- Good video from the folks at metal storm.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...O-tqUY&feature=related <--- Babes shooting (obligated to post this (ATOT bi law im sure)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...MEWZwk&feature=related <-- This is what i wanted to post, apparently the barrett 50cal sniper rifle has shock absorbers etc (i dont alot about it)