Is it possible to get over depression?

[mammador]

then what's this whole thread about?

Blue light = not sleepy. Just read a book and shut out outside influences after a certain time, then go to bed.

No I don't care about subjective morals of you or some medical researchers. Iwont sacrifice stuff I enjoy because past beliefs were better.

 

[mammador]

Can you tell us what exactly you are looking for? If you don't want help from a therapist...or a spiritual advisor...or a medical doctor...what exactly do you want?

I am me and million s in the world use electronics. I cannot because some doctor pushes religion onto society....

Incidentally I feel depressed because I don't have standard knowledge. Therapists tend to be very partial people and offer selective counsel and say things that aren't even mental do
Disorder symptoms...

 

[Kaido]

I am me and million s in the world use electronics. I cannot because some doctor pushes religion onto society....

If you're talking about borosp1's post about electronic light, that's actually really good advice. I was having a really hard time falling asleep a few years ago, which was causing a lot of trouble in my life because I was constantly tired the next day, and the doctor told me no flickering light sources within 60 minutes of going to bed (things with a refreshing screen like a smartphone, laptop, television set, etc.). It actually helped out quite a bit. The reason why is primarily because the flickering light sources emulate the sun to your brain, which delays melatonin release, so your brain stays wired in awake mode rather than drifting off into sleep mode.

If you're having any trouble falling asleep at a reasonable bed time, that's something that helps me out a TON actually.

 

[Kaido]

Incidentally I feel depressed because I don't have standard knowledge. Therapists tend to be very partial people and offer selective counsel and say things that aren't even mental do
Disorder symptoms...

What do you by standard knowledge - an education? If that's the case & you're lacking in it, it sounds like you have 3 options:

1. Do nothing & keeping feeling depressed about it
2. Go get an education
3. Decide that it doesn't matter to you, and thus stop feeling depressed about it because you don't care about it anymore

If you do want to pursue an education (assuming that's what you mean by standard knowledge), I can share lots of resources that will help you no matter where you're at in life...there are lots of educational resources available for people who are working, people who are financially strapped, people who can't physically make it to school, etc. Lots of options - if you're willing to pursue that path.

 

[mammador]

I have an education...i started by Masters degree...

not having the same knowledge as the many stumps me and makes me depressed....if others can mix and match spiritual knowledge (happiness comes from within) and contemporary knowledge (everybody is equal, do as you want without hurting others), so can I.....if there is a reason why not, then so be it..

And it does matter to me....who is to say what matters or what doesn't? isn't it subjective (what isn't in life?) It matters to ME if it hinders me/holds me back.

 

[mammador]

If you're talking about borosp1's post about electronic light, that's actually really good advice. I was having a really hard time falling asleep a few years ago, which was causing a lot of trouble in my life because I was constantly tired the next day, and the doctor told me no flickering light sources within 60 minutes of going to bed (things with a refreshing screen like a smartphone, laptop, television set, etc.). It actually helped out quite a bit. The reason why is primarily because the flickering light sources emulate the sun to your brain, which delays melatonin release, so your brain stays wired in awake mode rather than drifting off into sleep mode.

If you're having any trouble falling asleep at a reasonable bed time, that's something that helps me out a TON actually.

I don't feel tired..if anything often the exact opposite...

i just get down as i want the same knowledge as the masses..

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

Sorry, they don't treat clients equally....but yep, it's how they want society...

And I don't believe in God, and think sex without commitment is morally good, and that morals have no absolute basis....so I guess they should section me then because it's against their modern "Buddha" value system?

Okay, first you need to make a greater effort to communicate clearly. Second, I told you what worked for me. You already know everyone's different. However, just because you sound as if you've had some bad prior experience with various counselors doesn't mean they're all the same just as you are unique. While all religious leaders would like to add you to their flock, their primary job isn't converting you, judging you or, telling you what you're doing wrong. They work with troubled people all the time. Do you think that may give them some insight lacking in random forum posters?

 

[LukeEdAllen]

I found exercise and trying to improve myself physically was a good way to bring myself out of being down and depressed

 

[inachu]

Getting bit by tick even years ago can lead to depression and the person will not even realise their sadness started as a bite.

Other potential future cures being tested is using extasy rave drug to wipe out PTSD and when under control and used by a doctor people have reported that their depression went away by up to 80 percent.

So if I would if I were you get tested for anything that a tick can transmit ASAP.


Also if one has OCD then having an obsession to ones pain can even more reduce the likely hood of a cure because they dwell on the issues at hand on a continuous repeating circle of guilt. Does not matter if you were the victim or a witness to something that made you feel that way either way sometimes the greatest hurdle is to stop the process.


So......... DEPRESSION....... aside from being bitten/infected by an insect or something then seeing psychologist is best. If depression is because of something like being bi polar then I can say I met many who have learned to live with and instead of taking drugs to make them feel like in the middle of emotions they tend not to take drugs so they can feel those natural highs that make them feel like they are almost in heaven.

My friend told me feeling the good highs are 1000% worth it and he just does not go to work when he is on his downward swing.

But if you are not bi polar then I would just make sure you do not have anything in your house that can trigger a sadness episode.

Put the sad things far away in a locked box in your attic or basement or just throw them away. Does not matter if they are small pictures or furniture. THROW them away when you can ASAP!

 

[mammador]

Okay, first you need to make a greater effort to communicate clearly. Second, I told you what worked for me. You already know everyone's different. However, just because you sound as if you've had some bad prior experience with various counselors doesn't mean they're all the same just as you are unique. While all religious leaders would like to add you to their flock, their primary job isn't converting you, judging you or, telling you what you're doing wrong. They work with troubled people all the time. Do you think that may give them some insight lacking in random forum posters?

You have your views, I have mine..... I just won't be lectured to be "spiritual"..

 

[mammador]

Getting bit by tick even years ago can lead to depression and the person will not even realise their sadness started as a bite.

Other potential future cures being tested is using extasy rave drug to wipe out PTSD and when under control and used by a doctor people have reported that their depression went away by up to 80 percent.

So if I would if I were you get tested for anything that a tick can transmit ASAP.


Also if one has OCD then having an obsession to ones pain can even more reduce the likely hood of a cure because they dwell on the issues at hand on a continuous repeating circle of guilt. Does not matter if you were the victim or a witness to something that made you feel that way either way sometimes the greatest hurdle is to stop the process.


So......... DEPRESSION....... aside from being bitten/infected by an insect or something then seeing psychologist is best. If depression is because of something like being bi polar then I can say I met many who have learned to live with and instead of taking drugs to make them feel like in the middle of emotions they tend not to take drugs so they can feel those natural highs that make them feel like they are almost in heaven.

My friend told me feeling the good highs are 1000% worth it and he just does not go to work when he is on his downward swing.

But if you are not bi polar then I would just make sure you do not have anything in your house that can trigger a sadness episode.

Put the sad things far away in a locked box in your attic or basement or just throw them away. Does not matter if they are small pictures or furniture. THROW them away when you can ASAP!

OK, so you're saying to be humble and spiritual is the key...which most people are not.

I know you've all "offered help", but then if this is what psychiatry promotes, then I think medical professionals shouldn't push their own subjective moral biases pushed clandestinely.

 

[Kaido]

I know you've all "offered help"

So basically, you want things to change, but you're not willing to work for it.

Exactly what are you willing to do to overcome the problems you're dealing with?

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

So basically, you want things to change, but you're not willing to work for it.

Exactly what are you willing to do to overcome the problems you're dealing with?

He doesn't want to deal with people at all. He wants a blue pill guaranteed to fix whatever he suffers from. Bottom line, he's not ready to be healthy. :thumbsdown:

 

[mammador]

So basically, you want things to change, but you're not willing to work for it.

Exactly what are you willing to do to overcome the problems you're dealing with?

To gain standard knowledge......it's better than praying to Buddha or being "nice" without fail......which I see in your threads you are not...

 

[mammador]

He doesn't want to deal with people at all. He wants a blue pill guaranteed to fix whatever he suffers from. Bottom line, he's not ready to be healthy. :thumbsdown:

lololol....see you're not being "nice" here....lol..

meh, OK, so then those professionals have to section me for not being spiritual or believing in Buddha or other evils such as using computers at night and not being humble because some doctor says it's best (based on his or her subjective worldview)....

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

lololol....see you're not being "nice" here....lol..

meh, OK, so then those professionals have to section me for not being spiritual or believing in Buddha or other evils such as using computers at night and not being humble because some doctor says it's best (based on his or her subjective worldview)....

Where does it say I'm supposed to be "nice?" The word is "sanction" and who says they "have to?" What has believing in God have to do with your mental, emotional and/or, physical state? If a particular coping strategy requires not using computers late at night or, reading, headbanging or other late night activities, it would seem a minor sacrifice if it indeed helped. Being humble doesn't mean being subservient, it means understanding you don't have all the answers. What is this "standard knowledge" you believe is the key to your problems? From my point of view, your inability thus far to clearly communicate your problems or issues would seem to be the biggest stumbling block.

 

[smackababy]

Is it possible to get over depression? Certainly not! Once you catch it, you are depressed for the rest of your life. No possible way around it!

 

[RandomWords]

It depends on a lot of things. Some people have on/off periods of depression; some just have one time deals such as postpartum depression or life event; some have it on a monthly basis with hormone changes... the ones that are just a one time deal - you can come back from - given time and counseling. The others are more tricky than that.

 

[Kaido]

He doesn't want to deal with people at all. He wants a blue pill guaranteed to fix whatever he suffers from. Bottom line, he's not ready to be healthy. :thumbsdown:

Yeaaaah I'm out. No more of this thread for me. We tried

 

[inachu]

Another way to look at depression is to put yourself out of body in third person status.

Equate your life with anyone else or a fiction child and pin point your points of affliction.

More than likely nobody needs your points of affliction and nobody should.
Now avoiding those points you can now see if you could erase them... then you would not be the person you are today.

Self identity is always highly guarded to the self "ID" of who you are. For instance if my father never threw me about slamming my head against the walls of the bedroom back in 1973 then fast forward to 1997 Jeff Lindsay would have never have met me online to be inspired by me to create DEXTER MORGAN. Now should I hate myself, my id that is DEXTER MORGAN to let the lie stay alive that many think Dexter is only fictional ?
Would I have been a better person today if my father never instilled PTSD in me if he never beat me? But then the TV show DEXTER would never be the show it is today.

So aside from me what can you say what pain have you endured so bad you can not get rid of that you wrapped it around your world, yourself to such a point that you prefer to really attack those here at ANANDTECH who are trying to help you?

Are drugs perhaps your only cure?

 

[inachu]

To gain standard knowledge......it's better than praying to Buddha or being "nice" without fail......which I see in your threads you are not...

The idea of Buddha is not to pray to buddha but to open your inner eye!


OMG!

First lesson of buddah is that all is vanity! Everything!

 

[ShreddedWheat]

Sorry but you can't always have your cake and eat it to. I dealt with major depression most of my life with suicidal thoughts and TRIED to fix my depression MY own ways or through the help of medication and various therapists. I've always exercised and though it helps some it doesn't fix it. I'm currently going through a divorce which should put me at my lowest point in my life. I now live my life for God and have never been happier and the majority of my depression is gone. You have 2 choices 1. Your way or 2. God's Way. I had to learn the hard way to realize the right answer. Good Luck

 

[inachu]

Shredded wheat also makes a fine psychological point.

the humans mind is not meant to carry so much pain and guilt.
Why do you think the israeli military say their troops never suffer from PTSD because they are taught to love to hand out pain.

So thus enjoy and do not feel guilty of such pain and exposed it and give it a scapegoat as early as possible. no need to hold onto pain............ Sadly i do not believe in that so much but I am starting to.

 

[mammador]

Where does it say I'm supposed to be "nice?" The word is "sanction" and who says they "have to?" What has believing in God have to do with your mental, emotional and/or, physical state? If a particular coping strategy requires not using computers late at night or, reading, headbanging or other late night activities, it would seem a minor sacrifice if it indeed helped. Being humble doesn't mean being subservient, it means understanding you don't have all the answers. What is this "standard knowledge" you believe is the key to your problems? From my point of view, your inability thus far to clearly communicate your problems or issues would seem to be the biggest stumbling block.

Sorry, it's just I find it cute that you and kaido tell me to be "always nice", but then don't hold on that part yourselves....I don't have time for disingenuous behaviour.....

 

[mammador]

What do you by standard knowledge - an education? If that's the case & you're lacking in it, it sounds like you have 3 options:

1. Do nothing & keeping feeling depressed about it
2. Go get an education
3. Decide that it doesn't matter to you, and thus stop feeling depressed about it because you don't care about it anymore

If you do want to pursue an education (assuming that's what you mean by standard knowledge), I can share lots of resources that will help you no matter where you're at in life...there are lots of educational resources available for people who are working, people who are financially strapped, people who can't physically make it to school, etc. Lots of options - if you're willing to pursue that path.

lulz....look, people don't have to care about your spiritualist view of life....

I'd use computers all I want, and if some doctors want to section me, so be it....It's not in the DSM V, but meh...i don't care... and yes, I must be attentive to all,when you are not, sorry dude, I'm a human being, I don't have to get my time to all...