Originally posted by: dahunan
I hate Israel and all that is stands for.. but I don't have a problem with Jewish people
Does that still make me some sort of anti-semite
Originally posted by: Freshgeardude
destroying the existence of Israel is hating the Jewish people.
Originally posted by: Mursilis
Really? It's one of the few democracies in that region.
Originally posted by: dahunan
I hate Israel and all that is stands for.. but I don't have a problem with Jewish people
Does that still make me some sort of anti-semite
Originally posted by: dahunan
I hate Israel and all that is stands for.. but I don't have a problem with Jewish people
Does that still make me some sort of anti-semite
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: Freshgeardude
destroying the existence of Israel is hating the Jewish people.
There is no such thing as Jewish people. There are only people. One group of closely related small tribes and families have somebody see a bush catch fire and suddenly God says this land is your land, this land is mine and you are chosen, and all of a sudden you have a people with property rights. Jew is just a property deed and excuse to womp on your neighbor. It's like the special Olympics where Jews are special. We are all Jews or nobody is because there is only one human race and it's no fair saying your special, get off my planet, because the very same thing will come around to you if you do.
Originally posted by: canadageek
being Anti-Zionist does not an Anti-Semite make!
And the Communist party here in the democratic USA.Originally posted by: ZeGermans
Originally posted by: Mursilis
Really? It's one of the few democracies in that region.
Which is why arab parties were banned
Originally posted by: dahunan
I hate Israel and all that is stands for.. but I don't have a problem with Jewish people
Does that still make me some sort of anti-semite
Originally posted by: TheSkinsFanKnow this though: In Israel, the land, and most of the people, are beautiful.
Originally posted by: QuantumPion
Originally posted by: canadageek
being Anti-Zionist does not an Anti-Semite make!
Pretty much yes, it does. There are some people that have legitimate criticisms of Israel, but no one here falls into that category. You just use Israel as an excuse to rant against Jews.
Neturei Karta oppose the so-called "State of Israel" not because it operates secularly, but because the entire concept of a sovereign Jewish state is contrary to Jewish Law.
All the great rabbis who in accordance with Jewish Law opposed Zionism at its inception did not do so merely due to consideration of the secular lifestyles of the then Zionist leaders or even for their opposition to Torah heritage and rejection of its values and practices, but due to the fact that the entire concept of a Jewish state is in direct conflict with a number of Judaism's fundamentals.
Condemnation of and segregation from anything connected to or affiliated with the so-called modern day "State of Israel" is based on the Talmud, the key fundamental doctrine of the Oral Tradition handed down by G-d to Moses on Mt. Sinai. The Talmud in Tractate Kesubos (p. 111a), teaches that Jews shall not use human force to bring about the establishment of a Jewish state before the coming of the universally accepted Moshiach (Messiah from the House of David). Furthermore it states that we are forbidden to rebel against the nations and that we should remain loyal citizens and we shall not attempt to leave the exile which G-d sent us into, ahead of time.
Originally posted by: WhipperSnapper
Originally posted by: TheSkinsFanKnow this though: In Israel, the land, and most of the people, are beautiful.
...and the women aren't subjugated and treated like chattel as they are in the Arab nations.