Question Is it now time for SSDs to replace HDDs?

[ultimatebob]

Aren't SSD's more reliable than Hard Drives? Maybe we should get SSD's for our backup drives as well... because we're all made of money around here

 

[Ranulf]

I have two SDDs in my system with ext HDDs for backup.

Cool. To put what I'm saying another way, sata3 or nvme is faster than usb3.

 

[killster1]

Well I have usb c for backup external but that doesnt mean I dont have a couple 8tb reds inside the case too for laptops I cant have extra wires or plugs to worry about. so funny all these folks saying 256gb ssd in pc.. u must be expert web browser!!! I actually have photo albums/ videos / editing / tons of games in my pc.. what do you do with 256gb? Even a child will use more than that if rich ok spend 20,000 on ssd backups tht may or may not retain the data. I think have repaired 3 spinners so far for friends that beg and plead for help. (One PCB and other two internals.) Really the hardest part is a cleanroom! So much dust always even with my air purifiers going 24/7. Even one spec Is to much

 

[Amol S.]

The fact that SSD's came into existence a long time after HDD's came into existence, just points to the fact that any security flaws that are unique to SSD's are the major downside of SSD's. It could be thought in terms of theory that there are probably a lot less security flaws that are only pertinent to HDD's as they are more likely to have all been patched, considering the fact of how long HDD's have been in existence.

A news report from November of last year shows a new vulnerability that has been discovered in SSD's.

It will probably take a few years before the technology of SSD's can be considered as secured as the technology of HDD's. As I stated previously in this response, the big factor here is that HDD's have been much longer in existence than SSD's, thus any security flaws in HDD's have most likely been all patched up.

 

[Billy Tallis]

A news report from November of last year shows a new vulnerability that has been discovered in SSD's.

Those flaws had nothing to do with the drives in question being SSDs. The same mistakes can be made for a self-encrypting hard drive.

 

[Insert_Nickname]

Cool. To put what I'm saying another way, sata3 or nvme is faster than usb3.

5Gbit USB3 with UASP performance already exceeds what any HDD can put out.

10Gbit USB3 with UASP is indistinguishable from any internal drive. Even when using SSDs. External NVMe cases already exist, which combined with 20Gbit USB3 will make distinguishing between internal and external storage a moot point.

 

[kurosaki]

I don't think that I have any systems that I normally use that have hard drives in them anymore. I've been replacing them with 256 GB SSD's as they fail, and I'm at the point where laptops for home and work and my work desktop system all have SSD's in them.

You have 64 SATA-ports on your MOBO?!?!?!?!

 

[ultimatebob]

You have 64 SATA-ports on your MOBO?!?!?!?!

Umm... no. I guess that I just don't need a ton of storage.

 

[SPBHM]

I recently got a cheap 240gb SSD for windows and the most used programs and it seems pretty good, a noticeable upgrade from using just a hard drive, even if the hard drive was a fast 7200RPM one and I'm only using sata2 for the SSD and it's a dramless model,

it's very common to find 120GB SSDs for less than $20, those are not great SSDs but they sure are fast compared to any hard drive as an OS drive, so yeah, I don't see the point of not using one anymore, even with low end/old PCs..

but for secondary/backup use, HDs are still valid.

 

[cbn]

As I mentioned here and here (Also look at VirtualLarry post here) with Optane and SSDs becoming more prevalent I wonder if MS begins to offer more than one option for paging behavior?

 

[bonehead123]

When each of my 8 or so 2005-era spinners (10k Raptors) have died over the years, I have been steadily replacing them with SSD's, first with SATA 2/3 units and now with M2 nvme drives.... a process which I thoroughly enjoy and look forward to each time..

Since the prices are dropping like rocks, my next purchase will be a 2TB (or maybe 4TB) nvme, and I will then be spinner-free at last, free at last

 

[SimplyComplex]

For primary - yes. But for storage, it's still not even close. I picked up a 1tb ssd and a 10tb HDD on the same day, and the ssd was $120 while the HDD was $180. That's a 7:1 cost difference for same capacity. While I was down for a $200 10tb drive, no way in hell am I dropping $1,400 on a storage drive(if they sold consumer ssds in a 10tb capacity).

I'll probably replace buying HDDs for storage when the price difference is closer to 2:1. Which is a minimum of 4 years off, and possibly closer to 6-7 depending on HDD advances. There is a very strong chance I will own at least one HDD storage device in 2030.

 

[Amol S.]

For primary - yes. But for storage, it's still not even close. I picked up a 1tb ssd and a 10tb HDD on the same day, and the ssd was $120 while the HDD was $180. That's a 7:1 cost difference for same capacity. While I was down for a $200 10tb drive, no way in hell am I dropping $1,400 on a storage drive(if they sold consumer ssds in a 10tb capacity).

I'll probably replace buying HDDs for storage when the price difference is closer to 2:1. Which is a minimum of 4 years off, and possibly closer to 6-7 depending on HDD advances. There is a very strong chance I will own at least one HDD storage device in 2030.

Talking about integrated circuit storage mediums, Kingston came out with these now.

https://www.google.com/shopping/pro...ved=0ahUKEwiWzq2P2oDiAhUpT98KHcwYCgQQqA0IFCgB

https://www.google.com/shopping/pro...d=0ahUKEwiWzZ_o2YDiAhWvY98KHTUzDIcQnBUImwMoAA

This leads to an interesting new question... are flash drives going to replace "External SSD's" in the future, due to their area footprint?