Is it just me or is Fred Thompson completely devoid of charisma?

[ayabe]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: morkinva
NYT hit piece on ole Fred.

Chee, Hillary's rag throwing out a "hit" piece on Fred. Man, I'm shocked! :laugh:

Thompson is shaping up nicely. :thumbsup:

LOL, he is bombing everywhere he goes, he had to beg for applause at a recent appearance.

Kicking ass! :thumbsup:

 

[PottedMeat]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: techs
I was expecting Fred, as an accomplished actor, to at least appear alive on television. Yet, whenever I see him he seems like a befuddled old man. I don't know who does his makeup but he seems very pale and washed out.
Where's the charisma?

Kind of scary, isn't he. Seems to have a "deer in the headlights" look.

I think he may need a better puppeteer/ventriloquist. Dick Cheney isn't available right now, anybody got any suggestions?

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: ayabe
LOL, he is bombing everywhere he goes, he had to beg for applause at a recent appearance.

Kicking ass! :thumbsup:

Thompson On Top

Applause doesn't win elections.

 

[TheAdvocate]

Originally posted by: techs
I was expecting Fred, as an accomplished actor, to at least appear alive on television. Yet, whenever I see him he seems like a befuddled old man. I don't know who does his makeup but he seems very pale and washed out.
Where's the charisma?

You didn't see his red pickup truck?

What about the red pickup truck he drives?

Or that time he was seen driving a red pickup?

 

[imported_Lothar]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: ayabe
LOL, he is bombing everywhere he goes, he had to beg for applause at a recent appearance.

Kicking ass! :thumbsup:

Thompson On Top

Applause doesn't win elections.

Thompson has about as much chance of winning the republican nomination as Ron Paul does.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: Lothar
Thompson has about as much chance of winning the republican nomination as Ron Paul does.

Right, which is why Rasmussen has Fred in first place, as he has been for some time now.

The latest poll is here.

There's a good article linked therein that explains why Rasmussen has the race differently than some other pollsters.

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: Lothar
Thompson has about as much chance of winning the republican nomination as Ron Paul does.

Right, which is why Rasmussen has Fred in first place, as he has been for some time now.

The latest poll is here.

There's a good article linked therein that explains why Rasmussen has the race differently than some other pollsters.

Oh please. Let Fred win the nomination. PLEASE.
After defeating Rudy the moderate Repblicans and independents will have no place to turn other than Hilary.
In fact every poll has Rudy at least standing a chance against Hilary. And Thompson going down in flames. I mean, Barry Goldwater type flames. Thompson takes the northeast right out of the Republican strategy.

What is Thompsons claim to the nomination? His policies are exactly in tune with the farthest right wing of the Republican party. And out of tune with the country. Not to mention the guy is a wet noodle when campaigning. Hilary will eat him alive.
C'mon, really. If you put Hilary and Fred in a room whose gonna walk out? Hilary.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: Lothar
Thompson has about as much chance of winning the republican nomination as Ron Paul does.

Right, which is why Rasmussen has Fred in first place, as he has been for some time now.

The latest poll is here.

There's a good article linked therein that explains why Rasmussen has the race differently than some other pollsters.

Oh please. Let Fred win the nomination. PLEASE.
After defeating Rudy the moderate Repblicans and independents will have no place to turn other than Hilary.
In fact every poll has Rudy at least standing a chance against Hilary. And Thompson going down in flames. I mean, Barry Goldwater type flames. Thompson takes the northeast right out of the Republican strategy.

What is Thompsons claim to the nomination? His policies are exactly in tune with the farthest right wing of the Republican party. And out of tune with the country. Not to mention the guy is wet noodle when campaigning. Hilary will eat him alive.
C'mon, really. If you put Hilary and Fred in a room whose gonna walk out? Hilary.

"moderate Repblicans and independents will have no place to turn other than Hilary"????
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Man, it's puff puff pass.

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: Lothar
Thompson has about as much chance of winning the republican nomination as Ron Paul does.

Right, which is why Rasmussen has Fred in first place, as he has been for some time now.

The latest poll is here.

There's a good article linked therein that explains why Rasmussen has the race differently than some other pollsters.

Oh please. Let Fred win the nomination. PLEASE.
After defeating Rudy the moderate Repblicans and independents will have no place to turn other than Hilary.
In fact every poll has Rudy at least standing a chance against Hilary. And Thompson going down in flames. I mean, Barry Goldwater type flames. Thompson takes the northeast right out of the Republican strategy.

What is Thompsons claim to the nomination? His policies are exactly in tune with the farthest right wing of the Republican party. And out of tune with the country. Not to mention the guy is wet noodle when campaigning. Hilary will eat him alive.
C'mon, really. If you put Hilary and Fred in a room whose gonna walk out? Hilary.

"moderate Repblicans and independents will have no place to turn other than Hilary"????
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Man, it's puff puff pass.

Hilary already has a huge majority of the independents. And the moderate Republicans are gonna be pissed when they are basically told they can't ever have a moderate candidate again. You know, moderate. Like in balanced budgets, civil liberties, good government. Only way Fred wins is to basically have a man wedding with the religious right and neo cons. And we know how those man weddings work out.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: Lothar
Thompson has about as much chance of winning the republican nomination as Ron Paul does.

Right, which is why Rasmussen has Fred in first place, as he has been for some time now.

The latest poll is here.

There's a good article linked therein that explains why Rasmussen has the race differently than some other pollsters.

Oh please. Let Fred win the nomination. PLEASE.
After defeating Rudy the moderate Repblicans and independents will have no place to turn other than Hilary.
In fact every poll has Rudy at least standing a chance against Hilary. And Thompson going down in flames. I mean, Barry Goldwater type flames. Thompson takes the northeast right out of the Republican strategy.

What is Thompsons claim to the nomination? His policies are exactly in tune with the farthest right wing of the Republican party. And out of tune with the country. Not to mention the guy is wet noodle when campaigning. Hilary will eat him alive.
C'mon, really. If you put Hilary and Fred in a room whose gonna walk out? Hilary.

"moderate Repblicans and independents will have no place to turn other than Hilary"????
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Man, it's puff puff pass.

Hilary already has a huge majority of the independents. And the moderate Republicans are gonna be pissed when they are basically told they can't ever have a moderate candidate again. You know, moderate. Like in balanced budgets, civil liberties, good government. Only way Fred wins is to basically have a man wedding with the religious right and neo cons. And we know how those man weddings work out.

Dude... quit hoggin the herb.

"moderate Republicans" won't have a problem with Thompson but even if they did there is no way in hell they'd go for Hillary. As to "independent" - well that'll depend on if they are liberals or Conservatives. Those who are floundering liberals might break for her but floundering Conservatives will likely NOT support a hardcore liberal like Hillary.

 

[techs]

"Mr. Thompson as part of the Senate that cut taxes but not spending, aren't you at least partly responsible for our massive deficits?" Interviewer.

"Well, after 9-11 I felt a couple of years of deficits were needed to boost the economy" Thompson

"So, after 2003 when you left the Senate, can you cite one program you advocated cutting or one speech where you warned about the ballooning deficits" Interviewer

"Can I get a round of applause?" Thompson.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: techs
What is Thompsons claim to the nomination? His policies are exactly in tune with the farthest right wing of the Republican party. And out of tune with the country. Not to mention the guy is a wet noodle when campaigning. Hilary will eat him alive.
C'mon, really. If you put Hilary and Fred in a room whose gonna walk out? Hilary.

I hope we find out. My dream match is Thompson v Hillary, one on one. You think Hillary can get out of that? :laugh:

Hillary eat him alive? I'll mark this one for later! :laugh:

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Dude... quit hoggin the herb.

"moderate Republicans" won't have a problem with Thompson but even if they did there is no way in hell they'd go for Hillary. As to "independent" - well that'll depend on if they are liberals or Conservatives. Those who are floundering liberals might break for her but floundering Conservatives will likely NOT support a hardcore liberal like Hillary.

QFT. The lefties pipe dream that anyone who doesn't agree with the Republican candidate is going to vote Hillary is hilarious. I'm quite confident 90% of them will vote AGAINST her, even if it means a write-in vote.

Any so-called conservative Republican who would vote for Hillary isn't a conservative, or a Republican, to begin with.

I'm loving how the left is suddenly attacking Fred... It's like they've just woken up and realized how popular he has become. He's far more representative of mainstream values than Rudy, and he can toe the line with the base. As for not being the most eloquent speech giver, I seem to recall another man the lefties made similar claims about who has had a pretty good run...

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: techs
What is Thompsons claim to the nomination? His policies are exactly in tune with the farthest right wing of the Republican party. And out of tune with the country. Not to mention the guy is a wet noodle when campaigning. Hilary will eat him alive.
C'mon, really. If you put Hilary and Fred in a room whose gonna walk out? Hilary.

I hope we find out. My dream match is Thompson v Hillary, one on one. You think Hillary can get out of that? :laugh:

Hillary eat him alive? I'll mark this one for later! :laugh:

I know I'm naive and idealistic, but I'd like to think that in a choice between electing the first black or female president versus putting yet another old republican white guy in office, the non die-hard partisans would break for history.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: loki8481
I know I'm naive and idealistic, but I'd like to think that in a choice between electing the first black or female president versus putting yet another old republican white guy in office, the non die-hard partisans would break for history.

Only someone naive would vote for a candidate just to have a "first" in office...

I'd like to think people judge the candidates on a few more merits than that.

 

[imported_Lothar]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: techs
What is Thompsons claim to the nomination? His policies are exactly in tune with the farthest right wing of the Republican party. And out of tune with the country. Not to mention the guy is a wet noodle when campaigning. Hilary will eat him alive.
C'mon, really. If you put Hilary and Fred in a room whose gonna walk out? Hilary.

I hope we find out. My dream match is Thompson v Hillary, one on one. You think Hillary can get out of that? :laugh:

Hillary eat him alive? I'll mark this one for later! :laugh:

Hillary Clinton (D) 49%
Fred Thompson (R) 41%
http://www.rasmussenreports.co...n_vs_giuliani_thompson

Be careful what you wish for...
*Hint*Voting for anyone other than Giuliani/McCain in the GOP primary is essentially handing the Presidency to Hillary on a silver platter*Hint*

 

[imported_Lothar]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: Lothar
Thompson has about as much chance of winning the republican nomination as Ron Paul does.

Right, which is why Rasmussen has Fred in first place, as he has been for some time now.

The latest poll is here.

There's a good article linked therein that explains why Rasmussen has the race differently than some other pollsters.

So which GOP state primary is Fred ahead in?
Certainly not Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, Florida, or Michigan.
He's only ahead in South Carolina by about 2-4% points at that...

 

[Lemon law]

At least in MHO, you don't need any polling to know any democrat will win against any republican that tries to run on the GWB record. Since thats all of the current Republican field accept Ron Paul, the Republicans need St. Jude to enter their candidate list ASAP.

 

[ScottMac]

Yeah, you betcha. Hold your breath on that one.

I would have thought so too earlier, but now, I'm not so sure. The Dems are heading for critical mass ... I'm almost willing to wager that they melt down and bury themselves before the election and we have another Republican term, maybe two.

It sucks that they started the election season so early, but I think once we hit the normal season & cycle cycle, it's going to be a hoot.

 

[HeXploiT]

Originally posted by: techs
I was expecting Fred, as an accomplished actor, to at least appear alive on television. Yet, whenever I see him he seems like a befuddled old man. I don't know who does his makeup but he seems very pale and washed out.
Where's the charisma?

it's the editing that makes him look good. In real life with real issues and without editing things are a little tougher.

...you can applaud now...

 

[UberNeuman]

"Hi, My Name is Fred Thompson - I'm like wet cardboard..."

 

[Rainsford]

Could someone please explain to me the appeal of Fred Thompson? So far the only thing I can see is that he SEEMS like a Republican, in the traditional Ronald Reagan mold. But that's just it, he'd make a good choice to play a Republican in a movie or a TV show, I think he'd be great as President in a Republican version of the West Wing, but he doesn't have any stances on anything as far as I can tell...his only "position" seems to be that he's a Republican.

On the other hand, playing a Republican on TV worked well enough for Reagan, and even though he lacks any sort of acting or rhetorical talent, Bush seems to have taken the "I'm just a folksy average Joe" typical conservative act pretty far. Maybe that approach actually works well for the Republican party...

 

[Moonbeam]

Thompson has mastered the art of playing Ronald Reagan right down to being brain dead.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Thompson has mastered the art of playing Ronald Reagan right down to being brain dead.

Too soon?

Seriously, this Reagan shit has to stop. The guy was a middle of the road President with a talent for telling people what they wanted to hear and helping them believe what they wanted to believe about themselves...is that REALLY the model you want to build the future of the conservative movement on? What essentially boils down to a clever truck commercial? I figured out I wasn't really a conservative shortly after starting college, but that doesn't mean I think the right doesn't have good ideas...they're just getting drowned out in this inexplicable rush to be like Reagan. And not even really like Reagan, like some Reagan bumper sticker.

 

[UberNeuman]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Thompson has mastered the art of playing Ronald Reagan right down to being brain dead.

That's not fair, even now zombie Reagan has more charisma...