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Is it just me or are Republicans just really really bad for the country?

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Tab said:
As for health reform, it has to be passed. Costs are outrageous and Cuba - a country run by a dictator has better quality of care than the United States. Most bankruptcies are also due to medical bills.
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You are an idiot whose head is filled with talking points.


Do you really think Cuba has a better quality healthcare system than the US??
 
Tab said:
I put some thought into a thread, and it gets shit on by Conservatives. YAY!
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By thouight you mean trolling...and such.....
How much thought...30 seconds...rofl
If the heats too hot in the kitchen then as the mods to lock the thread you started...hahaaaaa
 
Both the Republicans and the Democrats are bad for the country. Both of our political parties are essentially the same when it comes to economic policy and neither will address nor even acknowledge the root cause our nation's fundamental economic problems (foreign outsourcing, foreign work visas such as the H-1B and L-1, mass immigration, and population explosion).
 
Tab said:
I've been thinking about this for the past month given the rather high amount of drama going on in Washington.

It's totally obvious that Sara Palin is absolutely unfit to be vice president or let alone even use a computer without adult supervision. With that said, isn't it stunning to see how she was chosen by the republican party / McCain to be the next-VP? It just shows a massive lapse in judgement and really poor decision making by the GOP just in general. Not to mention the complete a total disaster Bush left the state of the country in.
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First, I think most anyone would admit that Sarah Palin was not judged on the merits of her intelligence, but by the general impression by which the media managed to cast her, as a backwards hick former beauty queen. Her children have been maligned, her family insulted, jesus, even the writing on her hand mocked. I can say with some confidence that most people who hate Sarah Palin have hardly listened to her, and thus don't base their conclusion on evidence, but rather on the fact that it's currently popular to hate her.

She'd said no stupider things than any normal politician. Obama, Bush, Biden, Cheney, Pelosi, and any other politician has moments where they say something that sounds stupid. Yet Palin was attacked in a manner than cannot be called anything short of vicious.

It's simply "going with the group" activity.

Now, we have the healthcare debate and the Republicans are spewing out some of the most vile and outright lies - death panels. Plus, they're still continuing to spread a outright lie even after Obama explicitly discussed it!

In the beginning of the healthcare summit Republican Minority Whip Eric Cantor comments that these healthcare abuses by the insurance companies are merely "alleged", during it you have John Boehner outright lying about funding of abortions only to have Pelsoi correct him and plus you've got McCain resorting to talking points only to be aggressively smacked down by Obama. Which I thought was awesome to see Obama's experience as a lawyer come out but sad to see someone like McCain whom was largely respected by Democrats/Liberals but go off to the deep end and play politics at the healthcare debate.
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I don't know much about the healthcare debate. I only know this: That Obama was recorded saying that he wanted a single-payer healthcare system, and that other democrats have wanted the same thing. It's plain to most that the populace rejects this system, and for whatever mistakes the Republicans are making with death panels, the democrats are one-upping by displaying the arrogance of shoving it down our throats whether we want it or not.

Now, I know you can tell me Democrats did this and this but seriously Republicans are just really terrible, and their sucky-ness can't even be compared to the Democrats as they're not even on the same scale. I'd also like to say for the Republicans reading this, I don't find the Democrats that appealing but goddamn with the Republicans around they sure as hell look a whole lot better.
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Welcome to the pendulum, then. Democrats were obstructionists during the early Bush years, and now the pendulum swings the other way.

I find Republicans infinitely more appealing than democrats, for what I believe is the entirely justifiable reason that they tend to be anti-abortion. And when it comes down to it, abortion for me decides who I vote for.

EDIT - So, what do you think will happen in the next decade? Personally, I'm predicting Obama wins in '12 relatively easy, the only question is how much of a fight can the Republicans put up or how much legislation will they be able to block? If the TeaParty gets off it's feet and actually becomes a real movement instead of a bunch angry-old-white people we might have something.
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I think Obama will win in 2012. He's charismatic, and I don't see any serious leaders among Republicans yet. If not for that retarded speech awhile back, I'd have liked Jindal.

I agree about the tea party movement, but not the white people part.

On the "unhappy with both parties" theme, I'm not unhappy with Republicans beyond my expectation that they return to their foundation: conservatism. I think if they every actually did what they campaigned on (fiscal responsibility, strong defense, yadda yadda), they'd win huge.
 
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Atreus21 said:
First, I think most anyone would admit that Sarah Palin was not judged on the merits of her intelligence, but by the general impression by which the media managed to cast her, as a backwards hick former beauty queen. Her children have been maligned, her family insulted, jesus, even the writing on her hand mocked. I can say with some confidence that most people who hate Sarah Palin have hardly listened to her, and thus don't base their conclusion on evidence, but rather on the fact that it's currently popular to hate her.

She'd said no stupider things than any normal politician. Obama, Bush, Biden, Cheney, Pelosi, and any other politician has moments where they say something that sounds stupid. Yet Palin was attacked in a manner than cannot be called anything short of vicious.
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Your post cannot be called anything less than deluded.

While many things you point out unrelated to what she said did happen, your denial she was correctly attacked for what she said is nuts.

I don't know much about the healthcare debate. I only know this: That Obama was recorded saying that he wanted a single-payer healthcare system, and that other democrats have wanted the same thing. It's plain to most that the populace rejects this system, and for whatever mistakes the Republicans are making with death panels, the democrats are one-upping by displaying the arrogance of shoving it down our throats whether we want it or not.
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Single-payer polls well with the public; Obama is the one who abandoned it.

Welcome to the pendulum, then. Democrats were obstructionists during the early Bush years, and now the pendulum swings the other way.
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Democrats never obstructed anything like the Republicans have now - or under Clinton.

I find Republicans infinitely more appealing than democrats, for what I believe is the entirely justifiable reason that they tend to be anti-abortion. And when it comes down to it, abortion for me decides who I vote for.
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While I don't discuss abortion here, the Republican don't give you much different on it.

I think Obama will win in 2012. He's charismatic, and I don't see any serious leaders among Republicans yet. If not for that retarded speech awhile back, I'd have liked Jindal.
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I'm not so sure.

He was behind until the financial meltdown despite the horrible Bush presidency and Repuiblican policies.

The near election of Bush in 2000 after Clinton reversed the Reagan/Bush deficits show how bad our voters are. Obama has lost much support among the liberal base.
 
Craig234 said:
Your post cannot be called anything less than deluded.

While many things you point out unrelated to what she said did happen, your denial she was correctly attacked for what she said is nuts.
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Well I suppose we both have our opinions. But one would think she is anti-christ from how the left so frequently disparages her. She's almost more newsworthy than the president.

I mean c'mon. Notes on her hands? For Christ's sake. I saw more mature reactions to soap operas from high school girls.

Single-payer polls well with the public; Obama is the one who abandoned it.
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Well, I can relate to voting for someone who doesn't fulfill campaign promises.

Democrats never obstructed anything like the Republicans have now - or under Clinton.
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It's a question of degree, not fact.

While I don't discuss abortion here, the Republican don't give you much different on it.
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For the moment, no. They've got other issues on their plates. But abortion will come to the forefront again. Nothing that atrocious stays under wraps for long.

I'm not so sure.

He was behind until the financial meltdown despite the horrible Bush presidency and Repuiblican policies.

The near election of Bush in 2000 after Clinton reversed the Reagan/Bush deficits show how bad our voters are. Obama has lost much support among the liberal base.
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I'll be enormously surprised if Obama is upset in '12. Whether Obama has lost some of the liberal base or not, they'll rally to his banner to prevent a republican from unseating him.

Politics, I find, is 95% ego.
 
Is it just me or are Republicans just really really bad for the country?

It's not just you.

There has not been competent Republican governance from the White House since Nixon (unless you count Bubba as a Republican).

Gingrich - Livingston - Hastert ? LOL

Dole - Lott - Frist - McConnell ? bigger LOL

Jon Kyl and Boehner ? even bigger LOL

Considering these icons of stupidity are/were backed by the likes of Tom DeLay, Roy Blunt, Dick Armey and Ted Stevens, how can it be a surprise that the likes of Cheney, Palin and Limp Balls are currently the 'voice' of conservatism in America.





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There really isn't a lot of difference between George W. Bush and Obama. I hope and believe that a libertarian, which will be a real Republican will beat Obama in 2012, when unemployment is at 20%, health care costs and inflation are high, and people realize they elected GWB to a 3rd term.
 
dmcowen674 said:
History will show they killed the U.S.
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History shows us that people really need to study more history. Think back to when Clinton was president. Clinton gave use the surplus! oh yeh lets forget the other party who controlled congress and rejected four of the five budgets he presented to congress in 1995. Back then, clinton's budget had $200 billion deficits and these were projected for years to come. The republican congress rallied and demanded the government balance the budget within 7 years.... which was working because of increased revenues thanks to a smoking economy. Then the recession hit, Bush got elected, 9/11 did over $1 trillion in damage to the economy... then things looked okay but were based on a bubble.

Sadly we have gone from bad spending to catastrophic spending....

http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2010/02/01/five-decades-of-federal-spending/

Pelosi and Reid have a lot of 'splainin to do.
 
Ksyder said:
Tab said:
Is this a real question? Politicians spend hours research, not mention they have hundreds if not thousands of people working behind the scenes. We also put them in office in order to voice our concerns, in reality we're the ones doing the talking just through them.
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Hundreds or thousands of people working for a politician, lol.
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Tab speaks the truth. You have the actual staff then the lobbyists and those that the lobbyist represents.

The best research that can be bought:thumbsdown:
 
Nah, it' not just you. Every left-wing, partisan hack seems to feel the same way. Just like every right-wing partisan hack swears that Democrats are really really bad for this country and that Obama is destroying it.

That's just what partisan hacks believe. 😱
 
Atreus21 said:
She'd said no stupider things than any normal politician. Obama, Bush, Biden, Cheney, Pelosi, and any other politician has moments where they say something that sounds stupid. Yet Palin was attacked in a manner than cannot be called anything short of vicious.
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I'm gonna have to disagree here. Now, I'm a pretty big supporter of Obama. He hasn't done everything I've hoped for, but he's not given up yet. It's been just over a year so he has 3 more to use to get where I want him to. I do however, have some serious current issues with Congress, both parties.

As far as saying stupid things goes though, Palin really takes the cake. Obama has said some things that make him look perhaps a bit out of touch or arrogant. Pelosi has said things that quite frankly make her seem like a total bitch. Biden has said things that make him seem uninformed and make you hope he just shuts up. Cheney has said volumes of things that make him seem like the most evil human being in this country. Bush said more than his fair share of things that makes him seem like bordering on retarded. I give Bush credit for post presidency he's been far better than I ever could have expected or hoped for and I oddly have gained a small measure of respect for him post-presidency.

Palin however just comes off as a ditz. What's the joke, what's the difference between Palin's mouth and her vagina? Only some of the things that come out of her vagina are retarded. It's harsh I know, but the woman is an idiot and if she ends up being the Republican nominee, Obama will have a second term with no effort.
 
Tab said:
As for health reform, it has to be passed. Costs are outrageous and Cuba - a country run by a dictator has better quality of care than the United States.
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AHAHAHAHA!!!

Maybe you can move to Cuba then with that other douche sickbeast who loves to troll on about how Cuba is a paradise and everyone has it so great there.


Nice troll thread.
 
Everyone forgets that Tab is barely just past kid-dom. And he used to be Tabb, when he was completely a kid. And he was one of the die-hardest republicans in here. Apparently he has some of the most malleable political opinions ever, to pull a complete 180 like that.

So who knows what he'll be posting 3 years from now, he'll probably be a monk.
 
Would you hire someone who came in for a job interview and said "I hate your company?" That is what hiring Republicans to run Government is like.
 
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