0roo0roo
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- Sep 21, 2002
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its not, but it takes the thrill of the forbidden out of it for certain. i was offered a small glass of wine on occasion when i was small. i didn't see what the fuss was about.
sure some will turn into drunks, but that would have probably happened regardless.
The only true protection is knowledge and self control. Both can be taught, but both require exposure to the thing in question. Lack of that exposure leaves nothing but a mysterious and attractive void that cannot be filled with comments and warnings about the thing, but only the thing itself. Best to fill that void in circumstances where the responsibilities that come with it can be properly demonstrated.
Then your parents have failed you.
Edit: ^^ I have no idea how "You know you want to"
became that...SlitheryDee needs rest...
Hmm, never had a sip of alcohol, yet I have no attaction to that "mystery".
Yeah, that is just stupid, driving is a skill built up by experience and experience only.
irishScott
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- Oct 10, 2006
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If you do, you have to do it right. I was taught extensively about every drug on the planet via public schooling in 6th - 7th grade. My parents never really did much aside from the errant comment, but there was no exposure to these things at my house. I have never gotten drunk to date (although I have no problem getting a little tipsy), have never even thought about smoking, and am only now considering trying MJ once just to see what it's like. Under no circumstances would I start a habit of the latter.
Point is, you educate without exposure; and things tend to work out well if/when the exposure comes. Goes for most things in life.
Point is, you educate without exposure; and things tend to work out well if/when the exposure comes. Goes for most things in life.
I don't know if you're exaggerating or being sarcastic but what ever.. That's the thing though, how do you teach your kids to eat well and understand that junk food is OK occasionally but not be extreme and have them end up in the deep end from doing both extremes. I've seen family households where the parents bring home junk food everyday and the kids much on it, becoming obese slobs and like you've said where these kids are deprived of this stuff and end up as the same obese slobs as you worked so hard to prevent them from being...?
huh?Originally posted by: MovingTarget
No binging, heavy drinking, etc.
Then again, being raised Catholic probably helped.
being raised catholic woudl make you a heavy drinker :beer:
StageLeft
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- Sep 29, 2000
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AFAIK the statistics show that parents who drink are more likely to have kids who drink. This is one of the reasons I stopped (main was tired of headaches the next day). I'm not evangelical about it and don't ridicule the habit like I do smoking, and it's ok if people drink at my house, but I just don't do it.
The problem with the "show them alcohol in moderation" crowd is that many people don't drink in moderation, dare I say most? Having a few beer every night is not moderation, I would say that's an unnatural reliance. Dito on cranking through a six pack on Saturday night. Kids see these behaviors and what they see seems natural to them.
In any case, there are so many variations from the norm (dry household producing a binge drinker or growing up around an alcoholic perhaps scaring a kid away from the same) that it's hard to read too much into any of this anyway. I aim to be a good role model for my kids and in my case my life appears better without any alcohol, so that's what they'll see. Whereas others are still asleep, no beer the night before let me get up at 5:30 and go for a run, so that's what they see.
The problem with the "show them alcohol in moderation" crowd is that many people don't drink in moderation, dare I say most? Having a few beer every night is not moderation, I would say that's an unnatural reliance. Dito on cranking through a six pack on Saturday night. Kids see these behaviors and what they see seems natural to them.
In any case, there are so many variations from the norm (dry household producing a binge drinker or growing up around an alcoholic perhaps scaring a kid away from the same) that it's hard to read too much into any of this anyway. I aim to be a good role model for my kids and in my case my life appears better without any alcohol, so that's what they'll see. Whereas others are still asleep, no beer the night before let me get up at 5:30 and go for a run, so that's what they see.
AyashiKaibutsu
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- Jan 24, 2004
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Let your kids have a sip of dark beer every once in a while when they're little. They'll think it's the nastiest thing in the world and will be hesitant about trying it more later. Better than waiting till their 16 and their friends are encouraging them to chug as fast as possible and then they won't even remember how nasty the stuff tastes after the fact. Repeat a few times and their used to the taste and on their way to becoming alcoholics (maybe).
Fingolfin269
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Sea Moose
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onlyCOpunk
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you can try to shield your children all you want, but when they are 16 and at a party and everyone is yelling "chug chug chug" you better believe they are going to chug their beer.
Tremulant
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My parents let me drink with them during dinner and at parties. Even though we've always had alcohol in the house, they are social drinkers and really only keep it for parties.
I'm not a big fan of alcohol (or any drugs -- I don't like the feeling that I'm out of control), but I don't mind having a few drinks with friends. I just stop before I get shitfaced and can't remember anything (which has happened in the past, so I've learned my limits).
I'm not a big fan of alcohol (or any drugs -- I don't like the feeling that I'm out of control), but I don't mind having a few drinks with friends. I just stop before I get shitfaced and can't remember anything (which has happened in the past, so I've learned my limits).
Miramonti
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- Aug 26, 2000
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Its more important for kids to be healthy psychologically than anything else.
For example encouraging them in ways that strengthen a healthy self-esteem etc. Many kids do things to be cool, but in general they are in a better spot if they already feel good about themselves before confronted with the many pressures while growing up.
Its also better imo to teach them about issues associated with drinking and drugs, rather than blanketing the topic of drinking and drugs as 'an evil issue' and thus wrongly try and shelter kids from the realities of them.
For example encouraging them in ways that strengthen a healthy self-esteem etc. Many kids do things to be cool, but in general they are in a better spot if they already feel good about themselves before confronted with the many pressures while growing up.
Its also better imo to teach them about issues associated with drinking and drugs, rather than blanketing the topic of drinking and drugs as 'an evil issue' and thus wrongly try and shelter kids from the realities of them.
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