Is is possible for Pedophiles to be rehabilitated

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Judgement

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I don't believe they can be completely rehabilitated. At some point many can probably learn to restrain themselves, but that doesn't mean they see what is "wrong" with what they are doing/want to do and don't desire still desire to act on it. They are just doing what society is demanding of them so they don't get locked up in the pen.
 

GasX

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Originally posted by: tami
ever watch the shield? julien did it through some church organization because he's very involved in his religion and didn't want to act against god's will.

i'd imagine that there are other church groups dedicated to this cause (lesbian/gay relationships) nationwide.
First of all, that was a tv show not real life and second, he never did become straight he just leanred to live a straight life through his faith.
 

GTaudiophile

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Could a normal heterosexual male be changed from liking adult women to liking adult men? Or could a normal homosexual male be changed from liking adult men to liking adult women?

I would say no. And I think the same goes for pedophiles and anyone else with "devious" sexual desires. It's hard-wired and cannot be changed. Hence why most feel the only real solution for pedophiles is to throw them in jail and throw away the key.
 

GTaudiophile

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Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
I don't think it is possible. It's just the way they are wired. I feel pity for them because they cannot control how they feel. But I also feel repulsion and anger towards them for doing what they do. I say put them all down. They are broken, and although it might not be their fault, it's the humane thing to do.

Did you quote Hitler from 1933 or something?
 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: tami
ever watch the shield? julien did it through some church organization because he's very involved in his religion and didn't want to act against god's will.

i'd imagine that there are other church groups dedicated to this cause (lesbian/gay relationships) nationwide.
First of all, that was a tv show not real life and second, he never did become straight he just leanred to live a straight life through his faith.

There are actual groups out there that specialize in "fixing" gay people.
 

GTaudiophile

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My guess is that doctors will find the "sexual preference" gene. Or they already have, and it's been referred to as the "gay gene".

Just fix that and it will be cured. No homosexuals, no bisexuals, no pedophiles, no rapists, no beastiality, etc. The world will be full of happy heterosexuals...and after the AIDS cure comes out, swingers parties will be as common as going to the movies on a Friday night! w00t!
 

Ronstang

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Originally posted by: Bumrush99
Nope. And they should be sent away for life after the first conviction.

I agree that they cannot be rehabilitated but I think Texas has some much more effective and economical ways of dealing with such criminals. Life in prison just costs you and me as tax payers too damn much money. These guys need to be reduced to their elemental level so hopefully they can once again become productive.
 

JulesMaximus

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I think in most cases no, they can't be rehabilitated. In some extremely rare cases I'm sure it's possible but if you look at history almost all pedophiles repeat this behavior even after years of prison time. Maybe through years of therapy they might be able to overcome these sick desires but I don't think this is being done. They just get thrown in jail where they are beaten and sodomized which probably makes them into even worse monsters.
 

Howard

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Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: Bumrush99
Nope. And they should be sent away for life after the first conviction.

I agree that they cannot be rehabilitated but I think Texas has some much more effective and economical ways of dealing with such criminals. Life in prison just costs you and me as tax payers too damn much money. These guys need to be reduced to their elemental level so hopefully they can once again become productive.
Killing somebody in the current system takes much more money than it does to put them in prison for life.
 

Ronstang

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Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: Bumrush99
Nope. And they should be sent away for life after the first conviction.

I agree that they cannot be rehabilitated but I think Texas has some much more effective and economical ways of dealing with such criminals. Life in prison just costs you and me as tax payers too damn much money. These guys need to be reduced to their elemental level so hopefully they can once again become productive.
Killing somebody in the current system takes much more money than it does to put them in prison for life.

That is a simple problem to correct. With technology these days substatiating guilt is much simpler. If forensic evidence is there these guys need to be put to death 1 month after conviction....PERIOD.
 

Freejack2

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I would think that if they try to get the person to take in active interest in healthy relationships with adults and that doesn't work then if the person continues to molest children they should spend their lives in jail or have the option to take death if they choose. I think however they should be given at least one chance to be rehabilitated.
 

amcdonald

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Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: Bumrush99
Nope. And they should be sent away for life after the first conviction.

I agree that they cannot be rehabilitated but I think Texas has some much more effective and economical ways of dealing with such criminals. Life in prison just costs you and me as tax payers too damn much money. These guys need to be reduced to their elemental level so hopefully they can once again become productive.
Killing somebody in the current system takes much more money than it does to put them in prison for life.

That is a simple problem to correct. With technology these days substatiating guilt is much simpler. If forensic evidence is there these guys need to be put to death 1 month after conviction....PERIOD.

It's simple if you aren't Michael Jackson.
 

Ronstang

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Originally posted by: amcdonald
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: Bumrush99
Nope. And they should be sent away for life after the first conviction.

I agree that they cannot be rehabilitated but I think Texas has some much more effective and economical ways of dealing with such criminals. Life in prison just costs you and me as tax payers too damn much money. These guys need to be reduced to their elemental level so hopefully they can once again become productive.
Killing somebody in the current system takes much more money than it does to put them in prison for life.

That is a simple problem to correct. With technology these days substatiating guilt is much simpler. If forensic evidence is there these guys need to be put to death 1 month after conviction....PERIOD.

It's simple if you aren't Michael Jackson.

Money, fame, and blackness will buy you out of just about anyting in the US these days....it is rather sad.
 

Brutuskend

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Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: amcdonald
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: Bumrush99
Nope. And they should be sent away for life after the first conviction.

I agree that they cannot be rehabilitated but I think Texas has some much more effective and economical ways of dealing with such criminals. Life in prison just costs you and me as tax payers too damn much money. These guys need to be reduced to their elemental level so hopefully they can once again become productive.
Killing somebody in the current system takes much more money than it does to put them in prison for life.

That is a simple problem to correct. With technology these days substatiating guilt is much simpler. If forensic evidence is there these guys need to be put to death 1 month after conviction....PERIOD.

It's simple if you aren't Michael Jackson.

Money, fame, and blackness will buy you out of just about anyting in the US these days....it is rather sad.

QFT
 

GagHalfrunt

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Originally posted by: dullard
I thought they had one of the highest rate of repeat crimes. So the basic answer is that, no most cannot be rehabilitated with current technology/laws.


Yep, statistically child molesters have an insanely high recidivism rate. It's something like 75% of child molestors will be arrested again after getting caught once and supposedly "rehabilitated". Counting the ones who don't get caught a 2nd time, it's safe to say that the VAST majority of those who do it once go on to do it again. Sex offenders should be castrated as terms of parole. If they don't want to give up the jewels they should stay in jail for life.
 

Kadarin

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Pedophilia is a sexual preference where people are physically sexually attracted to children who have not yet developed secondary sexual characteristics (this is different from wanting to have sex with a minor who has - society draws a legal distinction, but biology does not care whether someone is 18 years old or not). I do not believe it's possible to change this (at this time), any more than it's possible to take a perfectly normal heterosexual person and convert them into a homosexual.
 

aidanjm

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Originally posted by: sonz70
I was having a discussion with a friend of mine. He says they can, I say they can't.

What do you guys think? Is it possible to rehabbilitate them? or should we just kill them after the guilty plea/verdict?

that's a question for forensic psychologists and psychiatrists to answer
 

aidanjm

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Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
I don't think it is possible. It's just the way they are wired. I feel pity for them because they cannot control how they feel. But I also feel repulsion and anger towards them for doing what they do. I say put them all down. They are broken, and although it might not be their fault, it's the humane thing to do.

that's absurd. they are not even doing as much damage in the world as someone really evil, like george w bush. if we're not willing to execute someone like bush, then certainly people don't deserve death for child sexual assault. more appropriate is for pedophiles to be locked up if they are at risk for re-offending. but I was under the impression treatments are more effective now for serial sexual offenders.
 

thomsbrain

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as a psych major, i usually find myself being the one defending whomever you guys are attacking, but unfortunately, sociopaths in general are usually not curable. if they can't use logic to see that it's not in their advantage to keep it in their pants, you just have to lock them up, because they will never feel that what they are doing is wrong.