is intel screwing 975 buyers with gulftown price tags?

[mutz]

The OP is.

where the hell did u hear anyone's complaining?!

I think thats more of an intel "Lets F around with the consumer" logic

they actually do that!

 

[Gillbot]

OP - sorry you had to learn the harsh reality of product cycles on a $1000 chip. 9 months is pretty long for a top of the line CPU.

Gilbot has is right

Where's tha ban stick when you need it, why can't anyone spell my name right! It was even in your quote and people still miss it.

 

[exar333]

or maybe if you don't oc? i heard a rumor that there are a couple people out in the world who still don't...

Don't believe it. :awe:

 

[TuxDave]

Where's tha ban stick when you need it, why can't anyone spell my name right! It was even in your quote and people still miss it.

Relax Gillbott, everyone makes mistakes.

 

[exar333]

Relax Gillbott, everyone makes mistakes.

What was Gilbot upset about? :whiste:

 

[VirtualLarry]

Gillboot?

 

[Idontcare]

What was Gilbot upset about? :whiste:

Gillboot?

Exkracken233, VitriolLarby,

I think Gellbot is just tired of Aigo having all the kewlest toys this time of year, hard to overclock a stocking full of coal

Peace,
IDK

 

[cbn]

Dude u think this is bad?

Can we flash back to the 965? 3 months later intel goes HELLO D0 stepping which the 920 killed the flagship 965 only because of a different stepping.
Then later intel changes the stepping on the 965... but 6 months later... so guys were forced to get 975 3 months AFTER the 920 D0 launch.

I think thats more of an intel "Lets F around with the consumer" logic then gulftown ever will be.

What is the targeted market for highest Bin CPUs?

I can definitely understand someone paying $1000 if increased productivity more than offset the high cost of ownership.

 

[cbn]

So who's complaining about something better being released? It ain't me! Even if I can't afford the best, I know that "something better" being released means better prices/performance all-around.

When top end products get released that means I can buy the hand-me-downs for a steal.

So I am happy.

 

[Gillbot]

Exkracken233, VitriolLarby,

I think Gellbot is just tired of Aigo having all the kewlest toys this time of year, hard to overclock a stocking full of coal

Peace,
IDK

Hey, I got 2 lumps of coal after my last oc!

 

[aigomorla]

Hey, I got 2 lumps of coal after my last oc!

how sad that ur calling 2 hd3870 lump of coal...

lol...

 

[Gillbot]

how sad that ur calling 2 hd3870 lump of coal...

lol...

You knew they were coal so don't give me lip!

 

[aigomorla]

You knew they were coal so don't give me lip!

He's making a list... checking it twice.... looking to see whose been naughty and nice....

 

[zuffy]

What about the folks that bought the 965 for $1k and then the 975 took that slot? No one say top of the line or early adopter comes cheap.

 

[tcsenter]

there's always a premium price tag on early adoption.

Yep, which is why I stopped being an early adopter years ago, unless there is no price premium for it. e.g. the price of Windows is relatively stable over the entire market life

If I had all sorts of extra cash burning a hole in my pocket, maybe, but it would have to be a L-O-T of extra cash. e.g. winning the lottery

 

[Zap]

ZAP... u hiding a GPU under your pillow that i havent heard about?

()

I'm being quoted out of context. The whole thing was:

"if I was making bank, why the hell would I not want to buy the best and most expensive?"

Translation: If I were filthy rich. Italicised for emphasis. :sneaky:

Hey, I got 2 lumps of coal after my last oc!

DOH!

 

[taltamir]

boohoo, intel charges an arm and a leg of people willing to pay for it...

Everyone warned ahead of time that top tier CPUs will cost 1000+$. So what is the complaint exactly? that intel is trying to make money? oh wow color me unimpressed.

Stop buying that overpriced stuff, but don't complain about its existence, the average customer should just pretend those 1000+ CPUs don't exist.

 

[Gillbot]

Yep, which is why I stopped being an early adopter years ago, unless there is no price premium for it. e.g. the price of Windows is relatively stable over the entire market life

If I had all sorts of extra cash burning a hole in my pocket, maybe, but it would have to be a L-O-T of extra cash. e.g. winning the lottery

I'm a gillbot adopter now, I wait till tech is years old before I jump on it usually. Then I get aigo'ed and all that flies out the window......

 

[aigomorla]

I go by the obama administration.

"YES WE CAN"

If its out there, im on it.

 

[Cogman]

Intel is also screwing 8088 buyers as well. Oh wait, too far in the past .

 

[qliveur]

Is the price of the EE chips outrageous? Of course; it always has been, but no one's being forced to buy them.

The only thing that would really piss me off would be the lack of a sensible alternative.

 

[BD231]

If I was filthy rich, I would not care. However, I'm not filthy rich, so that's why the most recent CPU I bought was a Core i5 750, and not a Core i7 975 (not that it would fit in the mini ITX mobo I just ordered).

Either way, I think you are out of line calling someone "stupid" just because their purchasing habits do not coincide with yours.



I don't complain and I do buy a new one again. What are you talking about?

Of course I can't afford EE chips, but I upgrade so often that I keep all my local gamer buddies fed with little-used recent gear. Heck, I just "side-graded" my LAN party rig from a micro ATX Core i7 920 (see my "for sale" thread in my sig) so that I can buy a mini ITX socket 1156 setup. My main rig gets upgraded annually.

So who's complaining about something better being released? It ain't me! Even if I can't afford the best, I know that "something better" being released means better prices/performance all-around.

I was making a general statement there buddy, I have no reason to cut anyone down and I'd appriciate you remembering that from here on out, thanks.

 

[mutz]

Everyone warned ahead of time that top tier CPUs will cost 1000+$. So what is the complaint exactly? that intel is trying to make money? oh wow color me unimpressed.

this isn't quite complaining, it is saying,
it seems as if the company is doing all kind of tricks in order to get extra cash,
that's it,
if u'r fine with it,
just let it be.

Stop buying that overpriced stuff, but don't complain about its existence, the average customer should just pretend those 1000+ CPUs don't exist.

the OP didn't say he bought'em,
and nobody is complaining about any chip existence,
nor about the prices either.
it just seems as if Intel is making a twist in the market,
not telling customers everything, using it to milk some extra,
it isn't a way for doing business right, they are using the customers for they're own benefit,
they should have given the 975 at first, at a better price,
and even lower the 965 before it came,
the last thing is, if they wanted to keep the 999$ prices,
was maybe to hand the Gulftown at a 1200$ tag.

 

[Rubycon]

Thank the remarkers that were the rage in the late '90's. Now that a cpu can be positively identified via software there is no need to lock the cpu down. Of course if all chips were unlocked it would kill the EE market. Both Intel and AMD are well aware of this.

Speaking of remarking I remember well someone asking me to look at their PC. It was a Pentium 100 running Windows 95. It was getting blue screens and freezing. The cooler was fine and the insides were perfectly clean. When I pulled off the cpu cooler besides no grease I was greeted with an Intel Pentium 75! The system was jumpered to run at 66 MHz front side bus instead of 50! In 1995 a Pentium 100 CPU was top of the line and cost a couple $100 more than the more mainstream P75 version. An few hundred bucks profit straight into the builder's pocket. Without physical inspection of the hardware there would be no way to tell.

Even worse were actual re-marking of cpu parts where they were physically ground and re-engraved with new numbers to match faster counterparts. These were indistinguishable from the real thing and the counterfeit market was born. Intel stepped in and started locking cpus starting with the newer P55C and of course all Pentium IIs and up and it's been that way since.

 

[mutz]

actually, a great post,
takes some time to understand when u do not flow with english!