is intel screwing 975 buyers with gulftown price tags?

[TemjinGold]

We should boil this down.

1) Every successful for-profit business in the world has one and only one main goal--to make as much profit as possible by any means necessary. If they put anything else ahead of that goal, they are not doing their job.

2) NO successful for-profit businesses are primarily motivated by caring about their customers. Not a single one. If anyone tells you otherwise, they are lying to you.

3) Companies charge what they charge because people will buy at that price. Companies adjust to lower prices if it helps them, NOT out of any concern for customers.

 

[zsdersw]

Split personality disorder? That way he can get away with the constant changes to what he really intended despite the posts to the contrary.

I have heard certain cultures are quite adept at circular reasoning. They run you in enough circles till you either forget what you were talking about or leave from frustration.

Indeed.

 

[mutz]

i think the last post is quite explaining the thread and the situation, and is easy enough for anyone to understand,
both of you just seem to want to show you'r better then others,
you could've easily and wisely taken it the other place,
just seems like a big ego and disrespect,

you seem to find something bad in everything that being said

nough said.

 

[yh125d]

mutz, could you be any more naive?


it's a -business-



The business of a business is to make -money-. How don't you get this

 

[mutz]

it's rather obvious yet there some rules not to be bent, otherwise,
it is hurting others eventually thus hurting oneself .

 

[yh125d]

it's rather obvious yet there some rules not to be bent, otherwise,
it is hurting others eventually thus hurting oneself .

I'm pretty sure Intel knows more about the proper way to price their products, at least they seem to be doing fine without your advice

 

[mutz]

I'm pretty sure Intel knows more about the proper way to price their products, at least they seem to be doing fine without your advice

well, you had to that didn't you, huh?
are you the same guy over there^^ yet with your original name?

 

[DaveSimmons]

If you're buying $999 CPUs and $600+ graphics cards then price/performance doesn't matter and cost is irrelevant. If there's a new $999 CPU that's better less than a year later you should be saying "woohoo!" and bending over again not whining.

Seriously, if I was making bank, why the hell would I not want to buy the best and most expensive?

If you're a penny-pinching cheapskate like me you put the extra $3,000 into savings or mutual funds instead

For my last upgrade in July 2008 I only spent about $700 on an E8400, 4 GB, P43 motherboard and an ATI 4870-512. That let me play Mass Effect at max settings and is still working well for Dragon Age.

I can afford the $4,000 water-cooled, multiple SSD, extreme CPU system but I don't care enough about the performance boost to spend 4-5 times as much.

 

[yh125d]

well, you had to that didn't you, huh?

Had to do what, suggest that you're naive and Intel doesn't need your help in pricing it's products? sure.

are you the same guy over there^^ yet with your original name?

Huh? what guy over where?

 

[mutz]

If you're buying $999 CPUs and $600+ graphics cards then price/performance doesn't matter and cost is irrelevant. If there's a new $999 CPU that's better less than a year later you should be saying "woohoo!" and bending over again not whining.

nobody is whining about anything, you can go on the thread and see for your self the OP is saying "the 980XE actually worth the price at the same TDP and 2 extra cores and at 3.33 stock speed".
you keep circling this "complain" matter as if you never went through the whole thread,
the thread is asking a very simple and straight question, which has been answered already by the questioner him self in the last post at page no. 4.

there is no harm in coming to a forum and ask a question,
if your suspicious or have any thing that doesn't come right in your head and you want to straighten in out, then asking about it and discussing it might solve it,
and if your wrong then u understand something,
if your right as well.
you only learn from that, learn from yourself.

 

[mutz]

Had to do what, suggest that you're naive and Intel doesn't need your help in pricing it's products? sure.

i don't mind being called naive or what ever, this isn't the case and it quite depends on the meaning of being naive,
what do we mean when we say someone is naive?
business making money is not a secret, yet some businesses are making money in a curvy way,
i'm not implying intel is doing it and wouldn't like to flame another unnecessary argument relating that, on the other side,
be sure not to be naive regarding all businesses are fair enough.

yet, you had to sting right?
you had to say, "Intel seems to be doing fine without your advice" right?
why did you had to say that?
why telling someone, "your no one", "you are nothing"?
"who do you think you are giving advices to the big king intel"?
why did you had to sting? right?
you wasn't being attacked, then why should you react like that?
is this just a routine habbit you don't pay any attention to?

and above that,
do you know who the OP is?

 

[zsdersw]

Wading through mutz's various failures with English is almost a full time job, and that's not what I'm here to do.

do you know who the OP is?

The definition of "OP", in online forum parlance: "Original Post", if in reference to the first post of the thread or "Original Poster", if in reference to the person who started the thread.

You, mutz, were the original poster. Stop referring to others.

 

[mutz]

Wading through mutz's various failures with English is almost a full time job, and that's not what I'm here to do.

you probably do not speak any language that is there right?
probably if you wouldn't write in your "own language" or any other u speak very well,
you had mistakes either, this is very natural, just take the stick of your ass
and relax.

You, mutz, were the original poster. Stop referring to others.

referring to the OP, whether it's original post or poster is insignificant now,
anyone who is just sane would'nt make much fuzz from that, the meaning is quite understood,
and this isn't the subject,

you still looking for some bugs in the OP saying, eager to smack,
you probably won't find any.

 

[Lonbjerg]

Gulftown to be sold at 999$ 6C/12T vs 975 4/8, only about 3Q later, x1.5 logical capacity, at the same price...

they could've taken few hundreds less knowing the hex core is soon to arrive..

I guess "economics 101" would be a good place for you to start.

You surely suffer from "the grapes are sour..." syndrome.

 

[Phanuel]

I guess "economics 101" would be a good place for you to start.

You surely suffer from "the grapes are sour..." syndrome.

At this point I think we're all suffering from trolling. :/

 

[Markfw]

maybe time to lock ?? I will if a few agree, as I see no value in this continuing.

 

[Rubycon]

maybe time to lock ?? I will if a few agree, as I see no value in this continuing.

IMO should've been locked a long time ago!

Thirded and locked -ViRGE