Netopia @ 09/29/2004 04:15 PM: "why is there no money being put towards finding out the cause and CORRECTING it?"
Want some mustard to go with your foot?
No thanks, but might I suggest you at least
attempt to learn how grammar works and how one word relates to another? Allow me to dumb it down for you "..finding out the cause and CORRECTING it?" Now since there is only ONE noun (the cause) directly preceding the pronoun (it), anyone with elementary reading skills would see that the correction is directed at the CAUSE of the situation. I've never said "round up the gays and FIX THEM..." which is what you seem to be inferring. What I said, taken IN CONTEXT was regarding a PRE-BIRTH situation. Find what's wrong and fix it BEFORE there is a person who needs to be (in YOUR words) cured.
Yes, simply because I certainly wouldn't consider it a good thing. What do I or any other heterosexual member of the human race have to gain from your scenario - other than more competition for mates?
Well, if you are married then it SHOULDN'T be competition for a mate. However, I would think that we would all want our children to have every advantage in life, including the ability to marry and procreate in a normal manner. Perhaps that holds no value to you, which is why you hold your stance.
Unlike "The Gay", those are known mental conditions. The degree to which they can be cured or prevented is pretty much zero, unless you're talking about aborting fetuses that show the symptoms while in utero. In that case, let's skip the hogwash and jump into genetic engineering with both feet. I want my son to be 6'0" tall, with a twelve-inch dong, fullback physique, and Einstien IQ.
You do like to jump to the extreme don't you? How about a scenario where an expectant mother is discovered to have a homonal imbalance that is going to drastically effect the child and feed it way too much or way too little of specific hormones? Something that could EASILY be corrected and probably SHOULD be corrected even for the Mother's sake. You don't have to go to the extreme to see that there can be conditions in the womb that get people all screwed up. What about hermaphodites? Would you also (since it's not a mental disorder) not try to help correct things in the womb that lead to these people having to live lives that are often miserable and confusing? Oh... wait... that's right, it's all society's fault these people wish they were different... yeah, I remember seeing a big KKK ralley in the paper about anti-hermaphrodite issues: NOT!
Yeah, I've been around mentally challenged kids... not many, but a few. I even read an incredibly interesting article in the NY Time Science section about a grown severely autistic man who learned to read and write even though he can't speak... and so for the first time ever, scientists can truly communicate with a severely autistic person. Sometimes his life is HELL... touch is pain, hearing is pain, sight is excruciating pain... so your point is that if we could prevent autism that we should just let it be? And BTW, MS isn't a mental disease it's a horrible neurological one... would you do nothing to prevent people from developing that either?
You call homosexuality a "disease" or "genetic defect" and you want a logical conversation? Good luck with that.
Why? Serious, why? There is NO definitive evidense one way or the other. For every "study" that says one thing about homosexuality there's another that says the opposite. So how do you DEFINITIVELY prove your position? You know what? You can't... and neither can I. The difference between us, I think, is that you've been programmed by society to see things a certain way and won't even consider the possibility of anything else. Note I didn't say "believe" anything else... you won't even CONSIDER other possibilities. That being the case, since you reject as impossible what I'm saying is a
possibility, what is your FACT about the cause of homosexuality? SOMETHING has to cause it, so what is it?
Just because it is not the majority does not make it wrong.
I agree with you on that. The truth of the world is MIGHT MAKES RIGHT, but I hope that any society I live in tries hard not to follow that manner of authority. And you know what? I'm a minority... I'm left handed. I am a member of about 10% of the population whose life expectancy is shorter. People don't keep "left handed" things aroung and I have to adapt and sometimes do things which are uncomfortable. If I could suddenly be right handed, have a longer life expectancy and an easier life... I WOULD! If someone could go back and change it so that I was right handed to start with, that would be even better. I'm not asking the world to change or have everything equal access for me or supply everything to me in a left handed model... that would be wrong, I'm the one with the issue at hand, so I should change, not ask the other 90% to change to accomadate me.
Joe
