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Is Homosexuality a fundamental freedom and universal human right

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I dunno if your point makes any sense. The Nazi's had the "authority" to round up 6 million Jews and slaughter them like cattle. The authority to do morally repugnant, despicable, genocidal crimes against humanity is hardly a solid argument.

Rephrase your argument because it don't make a lick of sense.

We are not talking about killing anyone here, just restricting certain liberties and freedoms.


You must not read ALL the posts. I answered in post #72 and many before me aslo have.

Missed that post, sorry.
 
Obama slammed Uganda for an anti-gay law.

I am sure this was for political reasons so he can win friends in the gay community, and maybe win votes for democrats in the 2014 mid-term election.

Maybe he actually feels that what Uganda is doing is repugnant.

However, shouldn't a nation be free to pass whatever laws they wish? Personally I do not care what some third world nation is doing.

And shouldn't other nations are free to criticise them?

If a government wishes to restrict certain rights, dont they have the authority to do so?

Authority doesn't really come into it. They can restrict whatever they feel like if they have the ability to. They will have to deal with the consequences from their citizens and the international community though.



That comes later.

By page 5 I suspect this thread will be on the real topic. But we are getting close.

It's usually better to get to your main point succinctly otherwise you just look like you're befuddled and rambling.
 
Harms my pocketbook when they get AIDS and end up in the hospital, since we all have to have health insurance now. I have to pay for others poor choices. That harms me.

(I'm not for or against homosexuality, I'm just throwing out the ridiculous notion that its harmless. Everything can harm someone somehow.)

AIDS affected gays first here but it is by no means a 'gay' disease.

Gay consumers and designers are a big part of the economy. Gay tax dollars support your roads, schools, water supply.... I believe gays help you more than they hurt you.
 
AIDS affected gays first here but it is by no means a 'gay' disease.

Gay consumers and designers are a big part of the economy. Gay tax dollars support your roads, schools, water supply.... I believe gays help you more than they hurt you.

I worked in sales for a long time. I can tell you from personal experience that my gay customers spent more, more often than any other customers. Without kids to worry about, they tend to have more disposable income. And lets face it....most gay guys like nice things and they pay the premium for them.
 
Waiting on the right comment.

"Gotcha" threads very rarely work. By the time you get to make your "Gotcha" everyone else has already discussed your point and moved on.
You need to frame your arguments better and try to keep control of the debate.

At the moment you seem to be vacillating between flailing madly and treading water. Either way it looks like you're out of your depth and drowning.
 
At the moment you seem to be vacillating between flailing madly and treading water. Either way it looks like you're out of your depth and drowning.

I am a pretty good swimmer.


So you agree that because I can't make whiskey in my basement the government can restrict my right to life.

If the government can restrict other rights, why can't gay rights be restricted?

Obama had no problems signing the ndaa that allowed for the indefinite detainment of US citizens.
 
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