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Is Donald Trump using drugs?

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Sudafed's not a problem. It's the quantity of the stuff in the drawer that's interesting.
Well apparently the stuff you get in the States doesn't really work so having a few packets in the drawer makes sense! My bedside drawer is packed with my tablets (none of them are fun tablets I'm afraid, abuse them and youd feel pretty shitty pretty quickly!) mainly because if you take anything for awhile you end up with a bit of a stock pile.
 
This is a funny thread...

Like I said earlier:

A conspiracy theory about Trump and drugs.... 🙄


I agree in the sense that Trump don't need no drugs to behave like he's a doped up chronic. It's just his natural state exacerbated by his habit of self-inflicting/self-incriminating himself on a regular basis.

His behavior has been getting more...........eccentric, wouldn't you say?
 
Oh lordy!

Sudafed is what we are worried about now.

Agreed, didn’t watch the video because for some reason my phone gives me a warning that I am giving YouTube access to my history, which I will not allow for this one video
I think it’s been well established the President doesn’t drink or drug. He is a moron by choice.
Do I think he is self medicating himself with some mild pain killer or something to help him sleep. Absolutely possible but that’s not exactly the same as cooking meth and doing it.
It would be weird if the President at his current age didn’t have some kind of medication he needed to take.
I do want to give him crap about it because he and other deplorable’s had no problem making up stories about Hillary or Biden so my position could change in the near future.



Ummmm......NO......

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I have never had any funky effects from Sudafed! Unless meth is a lot more disappointing than I thought.

I think that Trump just has dodgy sinuses and that's why he sniffs a lot, hence him getting the working sudafed.
Sudafed is OTC speed. If you don't take more than 1 every 4 hours you probably won't really feel any different. If you take 2 at once, you will likely notice a tingling sensation on the back of your neck and feel extra happy and energetic, but not out of control or anything. I've also noticed that even a single pill drastically increases my tolerance for alcohol. Take 2 before going out drinking and you'll be able to drink all night without getting tired and it will take much more to get sloppy than normal.
 
I respectfully disagree, you are making several assumptions (all of us are) but the video is pulling out interesting connections and is not making a huge leap into speculation doing so. It is plausible/possible for an older person to use drugs and many do. I have personally treated a 78 year old using meth. I frequently see people using in their 60s.

Bipolar does not cause dilated pupils.

Sudafed is a horrible drug for allergies and does nothing to solve the underlying problem. Antihistamines and nasal steroids are 1st line treatment. Any doctor would tell him this.

So, why does he have boxes of sudafed? We are speculating. However, given the rash of celebrity and rich person drug abuse, it is certainly open for discussion.

There's no basis for assuming anything negative without factual cause. Sudafed isn't meth and I doubt Trump is converting in the WH basement assuming it's the original formula.

Going from Sudafed to meth is a huge speculative leap.

We have more concrete concerns about Donnie right now.
 
Sudafed is OTC speed. If you don't take more than 1 every 4 hours you probably won't really feel any different. If you take 2 at once, you will likely notice a tingling sensation on the back of your neck and feel extra happy and energetic, but not out of control or anything. I've also noticed that even a single pill drastically increases my tolerance for alcohol. Take 2 before going out drinking and you'll be able to drink all night without getting tired and it will take much more to get sloppy than normal.

No, it's not the same. If that analogy holds then Nyquil is OTC heroin. If Trump were to use anything, why not Adderall? That would be easy enough for a President to obtain and if legally prescribed then HIPAA protects even his privacy. The idea that Trump is using Sudafed or an illegal substance is absurd on the face of it.

I'll put this in the "birther" conspiracy pile.
 
No, it's not the same. If that analogy holds then Nyquil is OTC heroin. If Trump were to use anything, why not Adderall? That would be easy enough for a President to obtain and if legally prescribed then HIPAA protects even his privacy. The idea that Trump is using Sudafed or an illegal substance is absurd on the face of it.

I'll put this in the "birther" conspiracy pile.
I was merely commenting on the effects of Sudafed. I just assumed this "scandal" is nonsense.
 
No, it's not the same. If that analogy holds then Nyquil is OTC heroin. If Trump were to use anything, why not Adderall? That would be easy enough for a President to obtain and if legally prescribed then HIPAA protects even his privacy. The idea that Trump is using Sudafed or an illegal substance is absurd on the face of it.

I'll put this in the "birther" conspiracy pile.
Funny you say this as I have seen fringe accusations for years about him abusing Adderall. Nothing definitive obviously but the rumor has been out there a long time.

 
I was merely commenting on the effects of Sudafed. I just assumed this "scandal" is nonsense.

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The effects are pretty nasty. The worst problems are related to potential stroke as it bumps up BP. For Trump, stroke is a real possibility.
 
Funny you say this as I have seen fringe accusations for years about him abusing Adderall. Nothing definitive obviously but the rumor has been out there a long time.


Makes more sense, but rumor isn't sufficient. It's just a matter of time before he strokes out if there's truth in this.
 
sure, let the SS find his drugs. with the scrutiny he under it'd be hard for him to do anything, let alone snorting meth on the job
I used to think that way about Presidents until Willy got a hummer in the oval office. Now I'm like, "maybe there is a pizza parlor in the White House basement."
 
Sudafed's not a problem. It's the quantity of the stuff in the drawer that's interesting.
Points to forgetfulness and senility more than anything. "Why did I come to the drug store? Might as well get some Sudafed while I'm here, might be out."

I think that's why there are a bunch of giant bottles of mouthwash in my bathroom. 😛
 
I tend to reflexively dismiss all the "Trump has dementia" and, now, also "Trump abuses drugs" stuff as over the top. The unremitting glare of the public spotlight for anyone who, like Trump, faces it daily, will expose flaws in anyone. I challenge anyone here to speak extemporaneously before the cameras on a near daily basis and see how you fare . . . how often you would eff up.

That Trump has a malignantly narcissistic personality is enough for me. He is an giant asshole, a racist, xenophobic man baby and habitual liar who has never been told "no" and had it stick in his entire adult life.

That's enough for me.
 
Points to forgetfulness and senility more than anything. "Why did I come to the drug store? Might as well get some Sudafed while I'm here, might be out."
Well, to be fair on this one small point, it would better be, "Might as well get on a plane and fly to England this morning for some more boxes of that sweet, sweet UK Sudafed." 😛
 
Well, to be fair on this one small point, it would better be, "Might as well get on a plane and fly to England this morning for some more boxes of that sweet, sweet UK Sudafed." 😛
That changes everything. If UK is the only place to get this type of Sudafed and you like the drug then stocking up while you're there makes you smart.

Also note that the pic is pre-election so no Secret Service to watch Trump buying drugs, not that the SS would care either way.
 
Well, Trump and Giuliani went after Biden based on less evidence than what’s presented in the video... so I demand immediate investigations into this supposed White House meth lab!

 
I wish he did drugs, at least then that might explain some of his erratic behavior. Instead I just think he's Trump and a raging narcissistic piece of shit with early stage dementia. Drugs at least could be fixed, what we have is just a fucking lunatic supported by fucking worthless fascists.
 
If anything...my moneys on Adderall

I'd love for a reporter to ask Trump if he'd be willing to submit to a drug test. The dancing to get around that would be epic to see.

"I do the best drugs. I know all about them, I don't need to be tested. Is it multiple choice?"
 
Points to forgetfulness and senility more than anything. "Why did I come to the drug store? Might as well get some Sudafed while I'm here, might be out."

I think that's why there are a bunch of giant bottles of mouthwash in my bathroom. 😛


Myself an aging guy with too many things on his mind and too many things forgotten the moment after I thought of them, I bow to your wisdom and fully agree with you, what with me having bought so many things (especially writing instruments, hand tools and cheap point-n-shoot cameras) because I couldn't find them when I needed them only to find them after I bought their replacement(s). Wash, rinse, repeat ad infinitum.

My increasing age is curiously commensurate with the increasing number of Murphy's Laws I have to contend with.
 
Points to forgetfulness and senility more than anything. "Why did I come to the drug store? Might as well get some Sudafed while I'm here, might be out."

I think that's why there are a bunch of giant bottles of mouthwash in my bathroom. 😛
Or 3 double packs of Q-tips from Costco. CRS is a bitch.
 
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