Is Donald Trump incompetent or is that an accomplished act of malovelence?

[Jhhnn]

If there is no collusion there then there is no need to prevent anything. People keep on assuming that a crime was committed. Even if a crime was committed its not FBI policy to indict a sitting President anyways. So that would not happen.

How would you know that a few are on file... if they are sealed? Do you have some special access to the FBI? Or are you making things up?

It would be difficult to believe that the unusually large number of sealed indictments on the DC docket are not Mueller's work. I Think that's more than reasonable to say. Thank you for pointing out that other possibilities may exist.

Of course crimes were committed. Hacking is obviously a crime, just for starters. Lying to Congress or the FBI is also a crime. Directing your lawyer to pay off porn stars as part of a campaign is illegal. Anybody other than the president would be under indictment. Failing to register as the agent of a foreign govt is illegal. Tax evasion is illegal.

There will be more to come, I'm sure. And, uhh, if this is all on the up and up, why have so many of them been busted for lying?

 

[ch33zw1z]

I dont. What gets to me is the idea that he has been assigned to this site by some alt-right propaganda outlet, maybe even The_Donald, and he gets to "go home" and tell a tale of success. I dont think this shit can ever go uncontested. as annoying and time consuming it must be. It cant become the new normal.

Fair enough. I won't stop ya, I'll just keep laughing at him.

 

[zzyzxroad]

Are you serious? i had a friend that is a bit of the investigative type. He decided he'd go down to Arkansas and sniff around with regards to the Clintons just to see if what he had read was true. i think it was around Mena. The gist of what he was told when he was down there was that it would be recommended that he should stop if he valued his life.

.

I'm no Hillary fan but tell the truth, did you make this story up?

 

[fskimospy]

Are you serious? i had a friend that is a bit of the investigative type. He decided he'd go down to Arkansas and sniff around with regards to the Clintons just to see if what he had read was true. i think it was around Mena. The gist of what he was told when he was down there was that it would be recommended that he should stop if he valued his life.

i myself have an uncle... pastor of one of the largest Christian Churches in Indonesia. One of his parishioners belongs to the Riady family. This family is head of the Lippo Group in Indonesia (there are a lot of very prosperous overseas Chinese in Indonesia - owners of very large firms). Unfortunately this guy got entangled with the Clintons

That's my personal extent of knowing anecdotally about the Clintons from first hand sources. It isn't pretty.

Frankly, i cannot believe that the Dems would push yet another Clinton on the American people. The same went for the Bushes on the R side. Clinton went on to win the nomination by cheating Sanders. The R's tried to cheat Trump as well but failed. Trump wins despite all opposition. i can understand why some people think it was a totally unlikely outcome.

i see it as a miracle really. The country chose rightly, and we dodged a bullet.

PS: everyone has their place as tools to cause certain effects. The reason Obama had to win is as follows:

1) in 2008 he played his divine part in preventing Hillary (and McCain, both warmongers) from being President.

2) while he was in talked a lot but did virtually nothing, so served as a good doorstop/placeholder while Hillary aged.

3) did his part in being arrogant and cocky enough to piss Trump off at the White House Correspondents Association Dinner in 2011. This was a divine appointment - Trump would not have run one term later had this not happened.

4) served as a placeholder for a second term while Hillary kept on aging.

5) Was incompetent in a good way in that he did nothing of consequence, and did not harm things in ways that could not be reversed while he was a placeholder - basically disappointing the Dem party a decent amount in prep for 2016.

6) which then ended up... Giving us Trump, who yet again pushed Hillary aside so that she could keep on running out of years

That is pretty much the bottom line as far as i am concerned.

You have friends who spontaneously decide to relocate and start investigating political figures? That’s impressively insane.

Why does it seem like it’s always only a matter of time with Trump supporters before they turn out to be crazy?

 

[rvborgh]

We have no idea what those indictments are for. i would be interested to know however if only for curiousity's sake.

The realistic thing of it is... probably most of the folks in DC ignore FARA from what i have read. Tax evasion is an art form for the elite. The only difference between Manafort and others was that he was made an example of. half the folks in DC probably would be subject to blackmail for this alone. Do we have a working Republic if so many people are blackmailable? How many congress people were found on Ashley Madison?

Why have people be busted for lying? Because people are filthy in their hearts by nature.

It would be difficult to believe that the unusually large number of sealed indictments on the DC docket are not Mueller's work. I Think that's more than reasonable to say. Thank you for pointing out that other possibilities may exist.

Of course crimes were committed. Hacking is obviously a crime, just for starters. Lying to Congress or the FBI is also a crime. Directing your lawyer to pay off porn stars as part of a campaign is illegal. Anybody other than the president would be under indictment. Failing to register as the agent of a foreign govt is illegal. Tax evasion is illegal.

There will be more to come, I'm sure. And, uhh, if this is all on the up and up, why have so many of them been busted for lying?

 

[fskimospy]

I'm no Hillary fan but tell the truth, did you make this story up?

Are you telling me that you don’t think he really has a friend who spontaneously decides to investigate political figures, only to be informed he would be murdered if he continued?

Gee.

 

[zzyzxroad]

You have friends who spontaneously decide to relocate and start investigating political figures? That’s impressively insane.

Why does it seem like it’s always only a matter of time with Trump supporters before they turn out to be crazy?

Doesn't everyone have an investigative type friend? My buddy Sherlock uses all of his vacation time to poke around and solve mysteries.

 

[rvborgh]

No i am not making this up.

As far as the Riady's go... they are public figures and you can do your own research on how that ended up.

As i said... anecdotal... but it is what it is.

Its interesting reading on Quora experiences of people who have had direct contact with Hillary... ie her security detail... etc.

I'm no Hillary fan but tell the truth, did you make this story up?

 

[fskimospy]

Doesn't everyone have an investigative type friend? My buddy Sherlock uses all of his vacation time to poke around and solve mysteries.

You would think that would have been a bigger story during the election, that people attempting to investigate the Clintons were being threatened with murder. What’s also weird is that the Clintons are some of the most heavily investigated people in history yet we don’t seem to have all these journalists getting murdered.

 

[zzyzxroad]

No i am not making this up.

As far as the Riady's go... they are public figures and you can do your own research on how that ended up.

As i said... anecdotal... but it is what it is.

Its interesting reading on Quora experiences of people who have had direct contact with Hillary... ie her security detail... etc.

Are other people able to see this friend?

 

[cytg111]

Are you serious? i had a friend that is a bit of the investigative type. He decided he'd go down to Arkansas and sniff around with regards to the Clintons just to see if what he had read was true. i think it was around Mena. The gist of what he was told when he was down there was that it would be recommended that he should stop if he valued his life.

i myself have an uncle... pastor of one of the largest Christian Churches in Indonesia. One of his parishioners belongs to the Riady family. This family is head of the Lippo Group in Indonesia (there are a lot of very prosperous overseas Chinese in Indonesia - owners of very large firms). Unfortunately this guy got entangled with the Clintons

That's my personal extent of knowing anecdotally about the Clintons from first hand sources. It isn't pretty.

Frankly, i cannot believe that the Dems would push yet another Clinton on the American people. The same went for the Bushes on the R side. Clinton went on to win the nomination by cheating Sanders. The R's tried to cheat Trump as well but failed. Trump wins despite all opposition. i can understand why some people think it was a totally unlikely outcome.

i see it as a miracle really. The country chose rightly, and we dodged a bullet.

PS: everyone has their place as tools to cause certain effects. The reason Obama had to win is as follows:

1) in 2008 he played his divine part in preventing Hillary (and McCain, both warmongers) from being President.

2) while he was in talked a lot but did virtually nothing, so served as a good doorstop/placeholder while Hillary aged.

3) did his part in being arrogant and cocky enough to piss Trump off at the White House Correspondents Association Dinner in 2011. This was a divine appointment - Trump would not have run one term later had this not happened.

4) served as a placeholder for a second term while Hillary kept on aging.

5) Was incompetent in a good way in that he did nothing of consequence, and did not harm things in ways that could not be reversed while he was a placeholder - basically disappointing the Dem party a decent amount in prep for 2016.

6) which then ended up... Giving us Trump, who yet again pushed Hillary aside so that she could keep on running out of years

That is pretty much the bottom line as far as i am concerned.

Damn, you do NOT like the Clintons.

 

[rvborgh]

i'd have to ask this person if he'd want this to be out in the public.

Personally, for me its just a curiousity... she's not going to be President... i hope she lives her life out in peace... but everything she has done has been seen and recorded, by the One that sees all. So she'll have to face up to that. There will be no hiding from anything at that point.

Are other people able to see this friend?

 

[zzyzxroad]

i'd have to ask this person if he'd want this to be out in the public.

Personally, for me its just a curiousity... she's not going to be President... i hope she lives her life out in peace... but everything she has done has been seen and recorded, by the One that sees all. So she'll have to face up to that. There will be no hiding from anything at that point.

It was a joke, sorry. I was implying this friend is a figment of your imagination. Praise be to god.

 

[feralkid]

You have friends who spontaneously decide to relocate and start investigating political figures? That’s impressively insane.

Why does it seem like it’s always only a matter of time with Trump supporters before they turn out to be crazy?

They wear a sort of magical merkin of sanity, that upon closer examination always seems to fall away.

 

[Jhhnn]

Are you serious? i had a friend that is a bit of the investigative type. He decided he'd go down to Arkansas and sniff around with regards to the Clintons just to see if what he had read was true. i think it was around Mena. The gist of what he was told when he was down there was that it would be recommended that he should stop if he valued his life.

i myself have an uncle... pastor of one of the largest Christian Churches in Indonesia. One of his parishioners belongs to the Riady family. This family is head of the Lippo Group in Indonesia (there are a lot of very prosperous overseas Chinese in Indonesia - owners of very large firms). Unfortunately this guy got entangled with the Clintons

That's my personal extent of knowing anecdotally about the Clintons from first hand sources. It isn't pretty.

Frankly, i cannot believe that the Dems would push yet another Clinton on the American people. The same went for the Bushes on the R side. Clinton went on to win the nomination by cheating Sanders. The R's tried to cheat Trump as well but failed. Trump wins despite all opposition. i can understand why some people think it was a totally unlikely outcome.

i see it as a miracle really. The country chose rightly, and we dodged a bullet.

PS: everyone has their place as tools to cause certain effects. The reason Obama had to win is as follows:

1) in 2008 he played his divine part in preventing Hillary (and McCain, both warmongers) from being President.

2) while he was in talked a lot but did virtually nothing, so served as a good doorstop/placeholder while Hillary aged.

3) did his part in being arrogant and cocky enough to piss Trump off at the White House Correspondents Association Dinner in 2011. This was a divine appointment - Trump would not have run one term later had this not happened.

4) served as a placeholder for a second term while Hillary kept on aging.

5) Was incompetent in a good way in that he did nothing of consequence, and did not harm things in ways that could not be reversed while he was a placeholder - basically disappointing the Dem party a decent amount in prep for 2016.

6) which then ended up... Giving us Trump, who yet again pushed Hillary aside so that she could keep on running out of years

That is pretty much the bottom line as far as i am concerned.

So, Arkancide, some weird Indonesian conspiracy theory & the divine hand of God in the same post.

And God obviously wanted Trump to be President, right?

 

[zzyzxroad]

So, Arkancide, some weird Indonesian conspiracy theory & the divine hand of God in the same post.

And God obviously wanted Trump to be President, right?

It's called an infowars hat trick.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Its factual if you are doped up on Meth and acid and for the life of you cant make 2+2=4 work.

But I see where you get your inspiration for the definition of "fact"

This is what you are gonna do now, you are gonna pack up your shit, abandon this thread cause the FACTS dont agree with you, you will holster this propaganda piece for at least 14 days and then you will REPEAT all this shit the next time someone brings up birtherism.
I would have banned, ip banned, browser banned your ass a long long time ago, if it was up to me. You are not a real boy, god knows why you do what you do, but a real boy you are not.

Don't I feel special, you quoted me twice to give different replies. Weird dude.

There wouldn't have been any birtherism had it not been created by Hillary's staffer. It came out of her camp, her person did that. Get mad and throw a tantrum all you want, but birtherism originated from Hillary's camp.

That is like political catnip to some, why give Trump such a weapon as Hillary Clinton's team did?











PS - Birtherism originated out of Hillary Clinton's camp.

 

[cytg111]

PS - Birtherism originated out of Hillary Clinton's camp.

At the same rate as rapists, nazis and pedophiles came out of Donald Trumps camp. Sure.

Edit : also, I think you promised us your The_Donald handle?

 

[Perknose]

Are you serious? i had a friend that is a bit of the investigative type. He decided he'd go down to Arkansas and sniff around with regards to the Clintons just to see if what he had read was true. i think it was around Mena. The gist of what he was told when he was down there was that it would be recommended that he should stop if he valued his life.

i myself have an uncle... pastor of one of the largest Christian Churches in Indonesia. One of his parishioners belongs to the Riady family. This family is head of the Lippo Group in Indonesia (there are a lot of very prosperous overseas Chinese in Indonesia - owners of very large firms).

To be sure, I kept reading your entire post as it was fascinating, but I just want to highlight these first two paragraphs, as they present a perhaps unintended guidebook to an outer planet with a weirdly toxic atmosphere that couldn't support life as I know it back here on Earth, what with our single sun and moon and oxygen, sanity and . . . reality.

 

[ivwshane]

You have friends who spontaneously decide to relocate and start investigating political figures? That’s impressively insane.

Why does it seem like it’s always only a matter of time with Trump supporters before they turn out to be crazy?

Matter of time? I think you are just an overly optimistic and patient person. It was pretty obvious from the get go that he was off.

 

[Paratus]

Are you serious? i had a friend that is a bit of the investigative type. He decided he'd go down to Arkansas and sniff around with regards to the Clintons just to see if what he had read was true. i think it was around Mena. The gist of what he was told when he was down there was that it would be recommended that he should stop if he valued his life.

i myself have an uncle... pastor of one of the largest Christian Churches in Indonesia. One of his parishioners belongs to the Riady family. This family is head of the Lippo Group in Indonesia (there are a lot of very prosperous overseas Chinese in Indonesia - owners of very large firms). Unfortunately this guy got entangled with the Clintons

That's my personal extent of knowing anecdotally about the Clintons from first hand sources. It isn't pretty.

Frankly, i cannot believe that the Dems would push yet another Clinton on the American people. The same went for the Bushes on the R side. Clinton went on to win the nomination by cheating Sanders. The R's tried to cheat Trump as well but failed. Trump wins despite all opposition. i can understand why some people think it was a totally unlikely outcome.

i see it as a miracle really. The country chose rightly, and we dodged a bullet.

PS: everyone has their place as tools to cause certain effects. The reason Obama had to win is as follows:

1) in 2008 he played his divine part in preventing Hillary (and McCain, both warmongers) from being President.

2) while he was in talked a lot but did virtually nothing, so served as a good doorstop/placeholder while Hillary aged.

3) did his part in being arrogant and cocky enough to piss Trump off at the White House Correspondents Association Dinner in 2011. This was a divine appointment - Trump would not have run one term later had this not happened.

4) served as a placeholder for a second term while Hillary kept on aging.

5) Was incompetent in a good way in that he did nothing of consequence, and did not harm things in ways that could not be reversed while he was a placeholder - basically disappointing the Dem party a decent amount in prep for 2016.

6) which then ended up... Giving us Trump, who yet again pushed Hillary aside so that she could keep on running out of years

That is pretty much the bottom line as far as i am concerned.

This here is another great example of why increasing voter turnout is so important. Folks like this need to be marginalized by the vast majority of this country who live in the real world.

 

[cytg111]

Who knows, we are all strangers on the interwebs, dude may have known a guy at his local pub that was good with the stories and he may be out of a family/culture with extreme Clinton hate.. I dunno, color me sceptical but I wont dismiss it either.8

 

[Jhhnn]

Who knows, we are all strangers on the interwebs, dude may have known a guy at his local pub that was good with the stories and he may be out of a family/culture with extreme Clinton hate.. I dunno, color me sceptical but I wont dismiss it either.8

Here-

http://www.arkancide.com/

It's a long running right wing conspiracy theory he personalized for our enjoyment. He just added his own bullshit.

 

[Moonbeam]

Because people are filthy in their hearts by nature.

I did a search on where such a notion could have come from and found out it's a rumor put out there by the Devil. We're not supposed to help him with his work, unless, well, you know.......................

 

[MooseNSquirrel]

i've noticed that a lot of Trump haters... have nothing to add but insults. Its not constructive or productive.

i spent half my life outside this country (the USA i mean) seeing it from outside, and the other half here seeing it from inside out (was a US expat). We have a great country here. Exceptional even.

Trump is employing the same kind of thinking that a lot of Asians have employed against us. He understands the Asian concept of "face", and "relationship" as well (which is why he is having success with KJU and Xi). Extremely shrewd, and purposely gets his opponents to underestimate him. Frankly, even though he has those bushy Scottish eyebrows from his mother's side... i think of Trump as the USA's first Asian President... since he does not think like "normal" Americans... he's got a totally different mindset. For some reason i get the man... but a lot of Americans i know do not. Perhaps since they don't understand him they fear him on a subconscious level.

Anyways, sit back and enjoy the ride... the USA is in for a resurgence...

You lost me at Trump and thnking.

Brb, getting the Chinese to admit they are causing global warming conspiracies.