Is conscience an evolution baesd or creation based?

[HAL9000]

I refuse to get sucked into this one.

 

[JulesMaximus]

The correct response is: Who gives a shit?

 

[Pray To Jesus]

The Bible teaches that God puts His law into man's heart. He also give man free will so man can choose to follow the law or not.

 

[HAL9000]

The Bible teaches that God puts His law into man's heart. He also give man free will so man can choose to follow the law or not.

Shame the bible is just an old book then really....

 

[Pray To Jesus]

Shame the bible is just an old book then really....

You only wish the Bible isn't the truth because of your sin and delusion.

It sure would be great for you if the Bible is false.

I hope the Holy Spirit will be able to reach you and teach you before it's too late.

 

[HAL9000]

You only wish the Bible isn't the truth because of your sin and delusion.

It sure would be great for you if the Bible is false.

I hope the Holy Spirit will be able to reach you and teach you before it's too late.

I didn't say it was false I just said it was a book, it is no more true or false than any other book. It has as much value as Harry Potter, You only wish the Bible was true because of your delusion.

It sure would be great for you if the Bible was true.

I only hope that reason and logic reach you before it's too late.

 

[Pray To Jesus]

I didn't say it was false I just said it was a book, it is no more true or false than any other book. It has as much value as Harry Potter, You only wish the Bible was true because of your delusion.

It sure would be great for you if the Bible was true.

I only hope that reason and logic reach you before it's too late.

Reason, logic, and experience tells me that God exists and that Jesus is his Son.

Therefore I feel that people who thinks otherwise are suffering from delusion. Usually it's the people who sin and likes to keep on sinning that tries their hardest to disbelieve. They feel more comfortable in their sins if they can convince other to behave and believe just as they do.

Just remember that Jesus' sacrifice on the cross has saved you from your sins, but only if you believe in him.

 

[Sureshot324]

Not sure what you mean by creation based, but conscience makes you help your friends/pack, thus helping the survival of your species, so it's evolution based.

 

[HAL9000]

Reason, logic, and experience tells me that God exists and that Jesus is his Son.

Therefore I feel that people who thinks otherwise are suffering from delusion. Usually it's the people who sin and likes to keep on sinning that tries their hardest to disbelieve. They feel more comfortable in their sins if they can convince other to behave and believe just as they do.

Just remember that Jesus' sacrifice on the cross has saved you from your sins, but only if you believe in him.

Well he didn't and it didn't. Aside from that, there is no logic or reason for believing in God or for believing in a Christian god. If there is please respond to this post with it.

As for sinning, I'm not a sinner according to the 10 Commandments.

 

[Pray To Jesus]

As for sinning, I'm not a sinner according to the 10 Commandments.

The logic and reason is clear for those who seeks for it.

As for not being a sinner according to the 10 Commandments, it's clear which sins you already committed. You must be greatly deluded if you can't see it for yourself so it would be meaningless for me to point them out to you.

 

[HAL9000]

The logic and reason is clear for those who seeks for it.

As for not being a sinner according to the 10 Commandments, it's clear which sins you already committed. You must be greatly deluded if you can't see it for yourself so it would be meaningless for me to point them out to you.

I can't see them and your avoidance of the issue clearly means you haven't got a clue about any "sins" I've committed either.

As for seeking it, I studied Philosophy for three years and have a degree in it, I also spend every day searching for philosophical truths, so I would say I seek the answer to gods existence more than most.

 

[Pray To Jesus]

I can't see them and your avoidance of the issue clearly means you haven't got a clue about any "sins" I've committed either.

As for seeking it, I studied Philosophy for three years and have a degree in it, I also spend every day searching for philosophical truths, so I would say I seek the answer to gods existence more than most.

Seek God with all your heart and He will find you. Trust not in philosophy for your answers as you will find that man made ideas will leave you empty and disappointed.

Here is the first commandment. Ask yourself if you violated this one.

Mark 12:28-30 (King James Version)


28And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all?
29And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
30And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.

 

[Kadarin]

The logic and reason is clear for those who seeks for it.

If it is truly "logic" and "reason", then you can very easily post that logic and reasoning here for us all to benefit; logic and reasoning most certainly benefit from external scrutiny.

If, however, it is "faith" and "belief", then such is not so easy to clearly post here; it's much easier to resort to shit like "it's clear for those who seek it".

 

[HAL9000]

Seek God with all your heart and He will find you. Trust not in philosophy for your answers as you will find that man made ideas will leave you empty and disappointed.

Here is the first commandment. Ask yourself if you violated this one.

Ahh well in that case you've broken it aswell, unless you only love god, if you love anything else then you aren't using your whole heart.

Aside from that you said Logic and Reason, not "heart" that's not logical or reasonable. I seek the truth. With my mind. With my logic, with my reason, and you said with logic and reason I could find proof for god. How?

Edit: also I do seek the truth with all my heart, you say that I shouldn't trust human creations and yet you trust the bible, written by humans.

 

[Pray To Jesus]

Ahh well in that case you've broken it aswell, unless you only love god, if you love anything else then you aren't using your whole heart.

Aside from that you said Logic and Reason, not "heart" that's not logical or reasonable. I seek the truth. With my mind. With my logic, with my reason, and you said with logic and reason I could find proof for god. How?

That's correct my friend. This commandment is impossible for us sinful humans to follow 100%. Maybe someone can do that for a couple of minutes, maybe hours, but regardless, no one, except Jesus, has ever been able to do that for a long period of time.

That's why no human living can say that they have completely fulfilled all the commandments. Therefore, Jesus' self sacrifice was instrumental in order to redeem us in God's eye. If you choose to believe in Jesus, God sees you as unblemished, just as He sees Jesus, his Son.

 

[HAL9000]

That's correct my friend. This commandment is impossible for us sinful humans to follow 100%. Maybe someone can do that for a couple of minutes, maybe hours, but regardless, no one, except Jesus, has ever been able to do that for a long period of time.

That's why no human living can say that they have completely fulfilled all the commandments. Therefore, Jesus' self sacrifice was instrumental in order to redeem us in God's eye. If you choose to believe in Jesus, God sees you as unblemished, just as He sees Jesus, his Son.

I thought Jesus loves you. Thus doesn't love god with his entire heart.

 

[Pray To Jesus]

If it is truly "logic" and "reason", then you can very easily post that logic and reasoning here for us all to benefit; logic and reasoning most certainly benefit from external scrutiny.

If, however, it is "faith" and "belief", then such is not so easy to clearly post here; it's much easier to resort to shit like "it's clear for those who seek it".

My logic and reason leads me to believe that God must exists just like the Bible says. Obviously I can't reproduce as an experiment some of my experiences with God. From what I have personally experienced of God and seen in the world my logic and reason tells me that God exists and that Jesus is his Son.

The Bible is definitely correct when it says that one cannot know God except through the Holy Spirit:

1 Corinthians 12:3 (King James Version)


3Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

 

[HAL9000]

My logic and reason leads me to believe that God must exists just like the Bible says. Obviously I can't reproduce as an experiment some of my experiences with God. From what I have personally experienced of God and seen in the world my logic and reason tells me that God exists and that Jesus is his Son.

The Bible is definitely correct when it says that one cannot know God except through the Holy Spirit:

So what you're saying is you can't believe in god without believing in god?

 

[Pray To Jesus]

I thought Jesus loves you. Thus doesn't love god with his entire heart.

I do seek the truth with all my heart, you say that I shouldn't trust human creations and yet you trust the bible, written by humans.

#1: Jesus is God

#2: Jesus does love God with all his heart. Jesus loves me because he loves God with all his heart.

#3: The Bible is the Word of God, written by Divine Inspiration.

#4: Seek and you will find. I believe you already found the truth but because of your own reasons you refuses to accept the truth.

 

[sdifox]

My logic and reason leads me to believe that God must exists just like the Bible says. Obviously I can't reproduce as an experiment some of my experiences with God. From what I have personally experienced of God and seen in the world my logic and reason tells me that God exists and that Jesus is his Son.

The Bible is definitely correct when it says that one cannot know God except through the Holy Spirit:

Now, what happens if your Bible was written by Satan?

 

[HAL9000]

#1: Jesus is God

#2: Jesus does love God with all his heart. Jesus loves me because he loves God with all his heart. What?!

#3: The Bible is the Word of God, written by Divine Inspiration. Says who.

#4: Seek and you will find. I believe you already found the truth but because of your own reasons you refuses to accept the truth. I have found the truth, the truth that there is no god, and that without blind faith a person cannot believe in god because a person cannot experience god or be logically proven god.

in bold.

 

[qliveur]

Trollin' fer Jeeesus! :awe:

/Smiling Jack

 

[Pray To Jesus]

Now, what happens if your Bible was written by Satan?

Your question is useless and a waste of time because the Bible is the Word of God.

One can easily discern the fruit by the effect it has on the person. The good tree will bear good fruit, and the bad tree will bear bad fruit.

For example, one can fancy concepts like, what if gravity stop existing right now, but it will be useless and a waste of time.

 

[HAL9000]

Your question is useless and a waste of time because the Bible is the Word of God.Says who.

One can easily discern the fruit by the effect it has on the person. The good tree will bear good fruit, and the bad tree will bear bad fruit.

For example, one can fancy concepts like, what if gravity stop existing right now, but it will be useless and a waste of time.

Why do you write like yoda? Or in an order you may prefer: Why like yoda do you speak?

 

[qliveur]

I refuse to get sucked into this one.

:hmm: