Is cheating as common in college?

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jagec

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Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Balr0g
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Depends on the school, class, and people in it.

I had some classes where if you did not cheat you would fail and even the most honest people caught on real quick. While other classes you get turned in.

Some based on the teacher some on the class and so forth. But with college if its a class where little to nobody cheats and you get caught you can get kicked out of school.

How could there be a class where you have to cheat to pass? That doesn't make sense.


So if you do well and do good on assignments and such, but you didn't cheat does the professor just say "Hey, you did good but I never saw you cheating, so I'm giving you an F." WTF?

could be a professor with wildly unrealistic expectations and willing to fail an entire class before reevaluating his own teaching style of putting it on a curve.

If s/he's willing to fail the "entire" class, then how will cheating help? Unless you're actually stealing the answer key (if you can...those sorts of professors usually do their own grading and probably worked out the whole test by themselves the week before), someone has to know the answer for cheating to work.

Not a LOT of cheating going on when I was in college, but that's because I took classes where no one was going to give you their hard work for free, and you had to know enough to actually do the problems in order to take advantage of other cheating methods. Lower level classes, yeah, people cheated. I had a particularly memorable CSE class where the prof "exposed" a whole bunch of the cheaters in a fairly dramatic fashion, and basically gave them until the end of the day to drop the class or they'd get expelled.

It seems that there were a few groups of people at a given school:

The smart people who did all their own work and got the highest grades,
The regular people who cheated and got good to great grades,
The regular honest people who worked hard and got OK grades
The dumb people who cheated but ended up getting caught because they were dumb about it, and
The dumb honest people who worked the hardest and got bad grades and a life of frustration.

I cheated once in high school (helped out some friends who otherwise would have failed), and never in college. If I'd tried harder or cheated I could have gotten a great GPA, and it was I just got a very good GPA, perfectly good enough for what I want to do. I did great on all of the standardized tests (SAT, GRE etc), so GPA matters less.
 

aesthetics

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Originally posted by: dNor
Bitch cheated on me in college, out of no where. :brokenheart:

Oh, you mean for class? Err, yeah...sure. Crying myself to sleep, brb

I'm sorry honey... you just weren't good enough, and your brother was so cute.......
 

Vehemence

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Originally posted by: aesthetics
Originally posted by: dNor
Bitch cheated on me in college, out of no where. :brokenheart:

Oh, you mean for class? Err, yeah...sure. Crying myself to sleep, brb

I'm sorry honey... you just weren't good enough, and your brother was so cute.......

But he died in '88!
 

aesthetics

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Originally posted by: dNor
Originally posted by: aesthetics
Originally posted by: dNor
Bitch cheated on me in college, out of no where. :brokenheart:

Oh, you mean for class? Err, yeah...sure. Crying myself to sleep, brb

I'm sorry honey... you just weren't good enough, and your brother was so cute.......

But he died in '88!

What can I say? Necrophilia is in nowadays.......
 

Vehemence

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Originally posted by: aesthetics
Originally posted by: dNor
Originally posted by: aesthetics
Originally posted by: dNor
Bitch cheated on me in college, out of no where. :brokenheart:

Oh, you mean for class? Err, yeah...sure. Crying myself to sleep, brb

I'm sorry honey... you just weren't good enough, and your brother was so cute.......

But he died in '88!

What can I say? Necrophilia is in nowadays.......

Heat em up a lil bit and they're good to go. Like left over Arby's!
 

SirStev0

Lifer
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I worked as a TA for a couple classes. It is basically impossible to prove someone was cheating on a test or exam. If we catch someone we were just supposed to move them around.
 

aesthetics

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Originally posted by: dNor
Originally posted by: aesthetics
Originally posted by: dNor
Originally posted by: aesthetics
Originally posted by: dNor
Bitch cheated on me in college, out of no where. :brokenheart:

Oh, you mean for class? Err, yeah...sure. Crying myself to sleep, brb

I'm sorry honey... you just weren't good enough, and your brother was so cute.......

But he died in '88!

What can I say? Necrophilia is in nowadays.......

Heat em up a lil bit and they're good to go. Like left over Arby's!

Arby's is only good the first time around.
 

Martin

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In engineering... very very little on exams and midterms. But assignments, reports and labs? Massive cheating.
 

IEC

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Originally posted by: Tiamat
I had a professor that left our kinetics exam and told us that he expected us to cheat, and encouraged us to use any computers and text books we wanted but that it wouldn't help at all and had an evil cackle and walked out for 90 minutes.

Not my definition of fun.

Hehehe, that sounds like a chem or BME exam here ;)

I have heard of people cheating at my school and got tired of competing with them in certain classes. Combined with the abuse of Adderall people like me who study alone and don't abuse drugs are at a distinct disadvantage.

Fortunately cheating tends to be limited partly because low-level cheating methods won't help, professors are vigilant, and bullshit won't get you a passing grade around here.