Is believing God or some sort irrational?

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her209

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The real question is Would you still follow Him even if you knew you were going to hell?
 

CessnaFlyer

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
sure, it prepares people to just unquestioningly follow irrational beliefs. the embrace of irrationality has led to much of the evil in the world.


Like the Democrat party?
 

sniperruff

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Originally posted by: CessnaFlyer
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
sure, it prepares people to just unquestioningly follow irrational beliefs. the embrace of irrationality has led to much of the evil in the world.


Like the Democrat party?

keep party stuff in P&N.

more like republican.
 

pontifex

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Originally posted by: totalcommand
what's with these wrong forum type threads invading ATOT recently?

fixed.

its not just p & n. its bein invaded by everything else also.
 

ForumMaster

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ehhhhh...DUH! is there not enough evidence for you? u actually belive that Jesus walked on water? (or the like if you're not christian)
i think i'll go buy some popcorn from everman.
 

Trevelyan

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Originally posted by: zoiks
Most people nowadays think so. I believe that was predicted as well in many books.

Actually, atheism is the vast minority of religious beliefs. All around the world almost everyone believes in some sort of supernatural God. I think it takes an interesting sort of mind to believe that almost everyone else is wrong about this basic point, and you are right. And its certainly not a rational mind.
 

Yossarian

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Originally posted by: sniperruff
Originally posted by: CessnaFlyer
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
sure, it prepares people to just unquestioningly follow irrational beliefs. the embrace of irrationality has led to much of the evil in the world.


Like the Democrat party?

keep party stuff in P&N.

more like republican.

did you not read the first line you wrote?
 

Malak

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It is impossible to say it is irrational to believe in God, because that thought would only come from irrational thinking. It cancels itself out. The belief in a higher power is as old as mankind, billions believe it today. It would be totally irrational to completely ignore the power of such belief and say it is ignorant when you have zero real reason to believe that. I would say it takes more faith to not believe in God than to believe in God, so in the end it is more rational to believe in God than the opposite.
 

Malak

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Originally posted by: Proletariat
God is a crutch. Always will be and always has been.

You are right, he holds me up when I am too weak to stand. And I thank him every day for that. He is always there when I need him.
 

IronWing

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Originally posted by: Malak
Originally posted by: Proletariat
God is a crutch. Always will be and always has been.

You are right, he holds me up when I am too weak to stand. And I thank him every day for that. He is always there when I need him.

God's a fleshlight?
 

JS80

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I'd say it's irrational to NOT believe in God. Why risk eternal hell for 70 years of Smugness?
 

IronWing

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Originally posted by: JS80
I'd say it's irrational to NOT believe in God. Why risk eternal hell for 70 years of Smugness?

Why would disbelief in a god bring about "Smugness"? Seems having a "get into heaven free" card would be more likely to inspire smugness.
 

SokaMoka

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Lawnchair :check;
Ice cold Mountain Dew :check;
Skin protection :check;
BBQ ready in 3 ... 2 ... 1 ... Ignition
:D
 

RallyMaster

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SokaMoka: you forgot the sunglasses

My take on this: It's not irrational. Faith provides emotional support for many and is a moral base. I doubt the US would be as advanced as it is now without some of the moral base.
 

JS80

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Originally posted by: ironwing
Originally posted by: JS80
I'd say it's irrational to NOT believe in God. Why risk eternal hell for 70 years of Smugness?

Why would disbelief in a god bring about "Smugness"? Seems having a "get into heaven free" card would be more likely to inspire smugness.

Jesus taught to be humble, so theoretically Christians are supposed to be humble. The few jackholes give the smug image you claim. I have never met a smug Christian in person, but I can see why you'd think the few you see on TV are.

However, I've noticed more recently that being Atheist is "cool" and people who don't believe in God think they're better (and "smarter") than those who believe in God.