Is Bacardi 151 the most caloric efficient way to get drunk?

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Viper GTS

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Originally posted by: jdini76
I have been looking for this for a long time.
Thanks!

Keep in mind that's just calories from alcohol. That doesn't take into account all the sugar (usually not a factor in hard alcohol, but a HUGE factor in beer and liqueurs).

Viper GTS
 

jdini76

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Originally posted by: Syringer
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Originally posted by: Syringer
Everclear has 190 calories, and just slightly more alcohol than 151.

You did say caloric efficient.

:roll:

Caloric efficient drunkenness = Only consume calories from alcohol. Everclear has nearly 26% more alcohol by volume than 151. Rest assured you get no non alcohol derived calories.

BTW, I wouldn't recommend drinking Everclear straight. I've tasted it (when already thoroughly trashed) and it is positively wicked.

I've seen Nik do a double shot of pure Everclear, you know how he turned out.

On a side note I don't think the figure you're quoting for 151 is accurate. It simply can't be.

http://www.healthcentral.com/mhc/top/002446.cfm

Viper GTS

Are people just ignorant, or just too lazy to do a little research? (not directed only to you Viper)

http://www.drinksmixer.com/desc185.html

Everclear is 26% more alcohol, but nearly 3 times the calories. An equivalent amount of 151 in terms of alcohol per 1oz serving of Everclar would yield just 87 calories.

87 < 190

Therefore, 151 will put more alcohol in your body in a given amount of calories than pretty much anything else I've ever seen..


How did you calculate 87 calories per 1 oz serving of 151?
 

Syringer

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Originally posted by: jdini76

How did you calculate 87 calories per 1 oz serving of 151?

Everclear has 26% more alcohol than 151 for the same amount.

In order to get the same content of alcohol in 151 then, you have to drink 26% more of it. Therefore 69 calories (from the link I posted) * 1.26 = 87.
 

Mayfriday0529

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Everclear is a brand of pure grain alcohol, available in 190 proof (95%) and a less common 151 proof (75.5%) variant. It is produced by the David Sherman Corporation.

Because of its strength it is illegal in many US states, and probably not available outside USA (at least not the 190 proof variant). If Everclear is not sold where you live, plain vodka can be used instead (Everclear is basically a strong form of vodka).

Warning: Can be lethal when used as shots or substituted for water in Jello shooters.

I wonder if its illegal in NY
 

brigden

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Only geeks would use formulas to work out the caloric content of drinks... then argue over it on the Internet.

Guys, just drink and get drunk!
 

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Somebody's numbers are off. Everclear is almost pure alcohol, so it's definitely more efficient, per calorie, than Bacardi 151. I really can't be bothered to find the numbers, but I can't imagine something with extra filler (151) gives a better alcohol:calorie ratio than everclear, which is basically pure alcohol. It makes no sense.

I've done a shot of everclear, although in Canada it was under a different name. It made my voice slightly horse for a minute or so. It's really powerful taken straight.

EDIT: I remember it called Alcool.
 

Originally posted by: brigden
Only geeks would use formulas to work out the caloric content of drinks... then argue over it on the Internet.

Guys, just drink and get drunk!
Considering the OP probably can't even legally buy alcohol, I second that.
 

MikeMike

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Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: Jnetty99
I never heard of Everclear, what type of alcohol is that?
Corn.
Usually 190 proof.

its normally 195 proof.

and yea, a straight shot of everclrear doesnt taste bad, it just burns like all hell in your throat.

MIKE
 

jdini76

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Originally posted by: Syringer
Originally posted by: jdini76

How did you calculate 87 calories per 1 oz serving of 151?

Everclear has 26% more alcohol than 151 for the same amount.

In order to get the same content of alcohol in 151 then, you have to drink 26% more of it. Therefore 69 calories (from the link I posted) * 1.26 = 87.

Although I agree with your calculations, I find it very hard to beleive that 151 proof alcohol has the same amount of calaries as 80 proof alcohol (according to your link).
I think you should be basing it on 120 calories for Bicardi 151, and 156 calories for everclear.

According to the official Bicardi webste, 151 has 122 calories/fl. oz. and 65 calories/fl oz of 75 proof
 

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: Jnetty99
I never heard of Everclear, what type of alcohol is that?
Corn.
Usually 190 proof.

its normally 195 proof.

and yea, a straight shot of everclrear doesnt taste bad, it just burns like all hell in your throat.

MIKE
No, it's always 190 proof. Unless it's homemade.
 

Viper GTS

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Syringer
Everclear is 26% more alcohol, but nearly 3 times the calories. An equivalent amount of 151 in terms of alcohol per 1oz serving of Everclar would yield just 87 calories.

87 < 190

Therefore, 151 will put more alcohol in your body in a given amount of calories than pretty much anything else I've ever seen..

Are you seriously this dense?

Alcohol has approximately 7 calories per gram. There are roughly 28.3 grams in an ounce.

Therefore:

151 = 151 Proof = 75.5% alcohol = 21.933 grams of pure alcohol per 1 oz = 154 calories from alcohol per 1 oz serving
Everclear = 190 Proof = 95% alcohol = 26.885 grams of pure alcohol per 1 oz = 188 calories from alcohol per 1 oz serving

It is absolutely impossible for 151 to have any fewer than ~150 calories per oz.

Your information is FLAT OUT WRONG.

Viper GTS
 

KLin

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who the hell counts calories when you're getting sh!tfaced drunk? :roll:
 

jdini76

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Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Originally posted by: Syringer
Everclear is 26% more alcohol, but nearly 3 times the calories. An equivalent amount of 151 in terms of alcohol per 1oz serving of Everclar would yield just 87 calories.

87 < 190

Therefore, 151 will put more alcohol in your body in a given amount of calories than pretty much anything else I've ever seen..

Are you seriously this dense?

Alcohol has approximately 7 calories per gram. There are roughly 28.3 grams in an ounce.

Therefore:

151 = 151 Proof = 75.5% alcohol = 21.933 grams of pure alcohol per 1 oz = 154 calories from alcohol per 1 oz serving
Everclear = 190 Proof = 95% alcohol = 26.885 grams of pure alcohol per 1 oz = 188 calories from alcohol per 1 oz serving

It is absolutely impossible for 151 to have any fewer than ~150 calories per oz.

Your information is FLAT OUT WRONG.

Viper GTS

According to the official Bacardi webste, 151 has 122 calories/fl. oz. and 65 calories/fl oz of 75 proof. Maybe they have a special way to distill it.
 

Viper GTS

Lifer
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Originally posted by: jdini76
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Originally posted by: Syringer
Everclear is 26% more alcohol, but nearly 3 times the calories. An equivalent amount of 151 in terms of alcohol per 1oz serving of Everclar would yield just 87 calories.

87 < 190

Therefore, 151 will put more alcohol in your body in a given amount of calories than pretty much anything else I've ever seen..

Are you seriously this dense?

Alcohol has approximately 7 calories per gram. There are roughly 28.3 grams in an ounce.

Therefore:

151 = 151 Proof = 75.5% alcohol = 21.933 grams of pure alcohol per 1 oz = 154 calories from alcohol per 1 oz serving
Everclear = 190 Proof = 95% alcohol = 26.885 grams of pure alcohol per 1 oz = 188 calories from alcohol per 1 oz serving

It is absolutely impossible for 151 to have any fewer than ~150 calories per oz.

Your information is FLAT OUT WRONG.

Viper GTS

According to the official Bacardi webste, 151 has 122 calories/fl. oz. and 65 calories/fl oz of 75 proof. Maybe they have a special way to distill it.

The formula found in my link above produces results that match that.

The "approximately 7" value I used may be off but it's off by an equivalent amount for both calculations. I have found numerous sites that quote 7 calories/gram for ethanol, I'm looking for something more accurate.

Viper GTS
 

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Originally posted by: jdini76
According to the official Bacardi webste, 151 has 122 calories/fl. oz. and 65 calories/fl oz of 75 proof. Maybe they have a special way to distill it.
I think their numbers suck. Unless alcohol is significantly less dense than water, a fluid ounce of it will be close or at 28 grams, in which case Viper's numbers are right.

EDIT: It is quite a bit less dense, so a fluid ounce of alcohol weighs less than 28 grams, but it doesn't change the fact that everclear is surely more efficient, per calorie, for alcohol than bacardi.
 

venk

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Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: silverpig
Originally posted by: SampSon
Rubbing alcohol.

I think that's the kind of alcohol that makes you go blind.

Actually, I believe the fastest way to get drunk is to inject your booze... Not that I'd know of course.
Which is why I want syringer to drink it! heheh

spider?
 

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OK here we go a fluid ounce of alcohol has 23 grams, so that would make the numbers mesh with what the bacardi site says. It seems that the filler/taste in bacardi is nearly insignificant, which leads me to the safe conclusion that everclear is minorly more efficient, but whether you're mixing 151 or 75 or everclear with a non-calorie drink you can get drunk with similar calories for all of them.
 

Viper GTS

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: jdini76
According to the official Bacardi webste, 151 has 122 calories/fl. oz. and 65 calories/fl oz of 75 proof. Maybe they have a special way to distill it.
I think their numbers suck. Unless alcohol is significantly less dense than water, a fluid ounce of it will be close or at 28 grams, in which case Viper's numbers are right.

EDIT: It is quite a bit less dense, so a fluid ounce of alcohol weighs less than 28 grams, but it doesn't change the fact that everclear is surely more efficient, per calorie, for alcohol than bacardi.

Doh, forgot all about fluid density.

That's where my math went wrong.

Density of ethanol is 0.789 grams per cm³, so instead of 28.3 grams per fl oz it would be 22.3 grams per fl oz, giving figures in line with official.

And yes, the non alcohol derived calories in hard liquor (especially in this range) are essentially non existant.

Everclear is more "efficient," but not by much.

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Syringer

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Originally posted by: jdini76
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Originally posted by: Syringer
Everclear is 26% more alcohol, but nearly 3 times the calories. An equivalent amount of 151 in terms of alcohol per 1oz serving of Everclar would yield just 87 calories.

87 < 190

Therefore, 151 will put more alcohol in your body in a given amount of calories than pretty much anything else I've ever seen..

Are you seriously this dense?

Alcohol has approximately 7 calories per gram. There are roughly 28.3 grams in an ounce.

Therefore:

151 = 151 Proof = 75.5% alcohol = 21.933 grams of pure alcohol per 1 oz = 154 calories from alcohol per 1 oz serving
Everclear = 190 Proof = 95% alcohol = 26.885 grams of pure alcohol per 1 oz = 188 calories from alcohol per 1 oz serving

It is absolutely impossible for 151 to have any fewer than ~150 calories per oz.

Your information is FLAT OUT WRONG.

Viper GTS

According to the official Bacardi webste, 151 has 122 calories/fl. oz. and 65 calories/fl oz of 75 proof. Maybe they have a special way to distill it.

Link? That does seems more plausible.

I'm finding it hard though to find information regarding caloric content in drinks.

Only site I found regarding calories in Everclear is the same one from above..

http://www.drinksmixer.com/desc494.html

Which states that Everclear has 190 calories per oz.

Given that, 122 calories (calories in 151) * 1.26 = 154 is STILL less than 190.

Unless anyone can find evidence otherwise, given that information, Everclear contains a lot of extra calories from somewhere else..
 

Viper GTS

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Syringer
Originally posted by: jdini76
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Originally posted by: Syringer
Everclear is 26% more alcohol, but nearly 3 times the calories. An equivalent amount of 151 in terms of alcohol per 1oz serving of Everclar would yield just 87 calories.

87 < 190

Therefore, 151 will put more alcohol in your body in a given amount of calories than pretty much anything else I've ever seen..

Are you seriously this dense?

Alcohol has approximately 7 calories per gram. There are roughly 28.3 grams in an ounce.

Therefore:

151 = 151 Proof = 75.5% alcohol = 21.933 grams of pure alcohol per 1 oz = 154 calories from alcohol per 1 oz serving
Everclear = 190 Proof = 95% alcohol = 26.885 grams of pure alcohol per 1 oz = 188 calories from alcohol per 1 oz serving

It is absolutely impossible for 151 to have any fewer than ~150 calories per oz.

Your information is FLAT OUT WRONG.

Viper GTS

According to the official Bacardi webste, 151 has 122 calories/fl. oz. and 65 calories/fl oz of 75 proof. Maybe they have a special way to distill it.

Link? That does seems more plausible.

I'm finding it hard though to find information regarding caloric content in drinks.

Only site I found regarding calories in Everclear is the same one from above..

http://www.drinksmixer.com/desc494.html

Which states that Everclear has 190 calories per oz.

Given that, 122 calories (calories in 151) * 1.26 = 154 is STILL less than 190.

Unless anyone can find evidence otherwise, given that information, Everclear contains a lot of extra calories from somewhere else..

You're right, there's a giant blob of fat floating in it (which is even more energy dense than ethanol).

:roll:

Are you following ANY of this? Do you know what fluid density means?

Goddamn.

Viper GTS