Is Arafat doing enough?

[Texmaster]

<< You must realise that this is not just a popular opinion, this is the opinion of 133 UN members, only two members agree with your view. >>




This is very simple Czar.

The army of militant Hamas and Islamic Jihad: 2,000-4,000

The army under Arafat: 35,000-,40,000


If he wanted to end their rule he would but he doesn't. He would rather hide behind their terrorist tactics because in the end, they share the same goal.

 

[Passner]

Tex, you hit the nail on the head.

 

[Texmaster]

<< Tex, you hit the nail on the head. >>



Its rare, but it happens sometimes

 

[Czar]

Allright, Arafat has an army of way more people than Hamas and Jihad. But what can he do?, terrorist dont go around with a sign that says "I´m a terrorist", hard to find. But most importantly is that Arafat is in a very hard position, he has to please both the Palistinian people and the Israeli government. Doing exactly what one side want will only make the other side angry and loose trust in him so any steps taken must me taken slowly.

but I agree with you texmaster, he could be doing alot more right now, but the risk is just to great

 

[Texmaster]

<< Allright, Arafat has an army of way more people than Hamas and Jihad. But what can he do?, terrorist dont go around with a sign that says "I´m a terrorist", hard to find. But most importantly is that Arafat is in a very hard position, he has to please both the Palistinian people and the Israeli government. Doing exactly what one side want will only make the other side angry and loose trust in him so any steps taken must me taken slowly.

but I agree with you texmaster, he could be doing alot more right now, but the risk is just to great >>



My dear Czar you MUST watch Fox News more.

The Head of Hamas has a WEEKLY television show! Yet he still manages to elude Arafat's "watchful" eye.

Its not hard to find them. Its just hard to get Arafat to do his job.

The risk for him? How about the risk for innocent Israelies? Are their lives worth less than Arafat's feelings?

 

[Passner]

I love Fox News, the closest thing to unboased our country has.

 

[Czar]

Texmaster,
nahh, dont even get Fox here would be nice though so I could watch Family Guy

You could get some of the leaders, but as soon as one move is made against them they would all go into hiding. And like i said before, terrorists are hard to find because they dont wear a sign

A risk for him yes, he is the only political link between israel and terrorist leaders and if that link is broken because one side distrusts him then all hell will brake loose, but since that has already happened then I can say that good times are not comming.
Not hard to find them?, seen Bin Laden recently?
Also, there are more innocent people than just israelis, there are plenty of bodies on both sides which are innocent.


The only man that has my 100% trust in bringing peace between Palestine and Israel is Barak. The rest on both sides I have no trust in, just that Arafat is too important to cut out of the picture right now.

 

[Texmaster]

<< Texmaster,
nahh, dont even get Fox here would be nice though so I could watch Family Guy

You could get some of the leaders, but as soon as one move is made against them they would all go into hiding. And like i said before, terrorists are hard to find because they dont wear a sign

A risk for him yes, he is the only political link between israel and terrorist leaders and if that link is broken because one side distrusts him then all hell will brake loose, but since that has already happened then I can say that good times are not comming.
Not hard to find them?, seen Bin Laden recently? >>



You know he's alive? And we are not talking about someone who hid for a living. We are talking about a leader who has his own TV show he shows up for weekly.




<< Also, there are more innocent people than just israelis, there are plenty of bodies on both sides which are innocent. >>



That wasn't the subject here but nice try.



<< The only man that has my 100% trust in bringing peace between Palestine and Israel is Barak. The rest on both sides I have no trust in, just that Arafat is too important to cut out of the picture right now. >>




I know this is a long shot but I would guess the head of Hamas might know a few people in his organization, then they know a few, etc.

Flat out, if Arafat doesn't do his job he's not worth keeping around.

 

[Czar]

<< You know he's alive? And we are not talking about someone who hid for a living. We are talking about a leader who has his own TV show he shows up for weekly. >>


Not a clue if Bin Laden is alive or not. So this hamas guy is like Jay Leno anyway, he would probably be easy to catch.



<< << Also, there are more innocent people than just israelis, there are plenty of bodies on both sides which are innocent. >>
That wasn't the subject here but nice try. >>


you brought it up that innocent Israelis die, that is only one side of the story, I just brought up the other side.



<< I know this is a long shot but I would guess the head of Hamas might know a few people in his organization, then they know a few, etc.

Flat out, if Arafat doesn't do his job he's not worth keeping around. >>


But the big question is will he tell.
About keeping Arafat around or not, that is a matter of personal opinion, he is on shaky ground right now. My personal opinion on Arafat that right now expecialy when Israel is invading Palestine to capture terrorists, keeping him around is the wisest thing to do.

 

[Passner]

I guarantee that between Arafat and his higher ups, they know everyone who matters in those organizations, and they choose not to act.

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

I guarantee that between Arafat and his higher ups, they know everyone who matters in those organizations, and they choose not to act . . . finally something reasoned and reasonable.

Rabin, Peres, Barak, Sadat, Arafat, Carter, and Clinton have history on their side when it comes to providing REAL hope for peace in the region. Sharon, Netanyahu, and Arafat on balance have a history of conflict. Yeah, Arafat is on both sides b/c he's unreliable and he has a tenuous hold of authority. It would truly be an act worthy of the Nobel if the PA rounded up the leadership and put them all in prison for crimes against humanity. Not in the hopes of getting Israel to remove its military (and settlements) from Gaza and the West Bank but b/c it would be the right thing to do. Then again, you could argue that Israel should remove its military (and settlements) from G/WB b/c it's the right thing to do.

 

[Mill]

I say we just kill them all and let their God sort them out...

 

[Halogen]

why should WE kill them? they are killing each other aren't they

let's just save a few bullets and let them do their own dirty work