Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: DrPizza
Why does 50% black make someone black, but 50% white doesn't make someone white?![]()
self-identification? it's kinda like transsexuals referring to themselves with female pronouns because they see themselves as female.
edit: wrong word
Originally posted by: Zebo
I never cared in the sense of race but can totally understand why it holds a great deal of importance to many considering AA experience. I am proud of America that we did it - many other counties it would be unthinkable. But then again America is truly blessed by something so it did not surprise me in the least.:thumbsup:
Now lets gets to work!
Originally posted by: brandonbull
Originally posted by: Jhhnn
From the OP-
I mean, we elected the best person for the job... isn't that what normal people should do? I guess I just don't grok why people doing the right thing is such a big deal.
Why?
History, on several different levels, starting with 400 years of slavery and the justification for it- basically that blacks were inferior, and that anybody who had black lineage was inferior, and could be enslaved- they bore the biblical mark of Cain, and carried that original sin with them down through the ages.
That context is explored at depth in this book, highly recommended -
http://www.amazon.com/Lost-Ger...ordinary/dp/0871139219
That's 20 generations of prejudice being overcome, no small matter, at all.
And then there's the historical exploitation of that sentiment, first by the Dixiecrats, and later by republicans in their adoption of the southern strategy in the wake of the civil rights movement. Righties are free, of course, to bullshit themselves wrt that- right now, they're bullshitting themselves wrt most everything, so there's no point in making denial anything less than total...
Despite attempts to minimize the event, Obama's inauguration will be historic on a level that probably won't be fully understood until some time in the future, maybe by our children or grandchildren. His election was, in many ways, a referendum on the whole issue of race in America, and we seem to have passed the test, shown just how far we've come in that regard. His victories in Virginia and N Carolina are no small thing, either, leaving the forces of so-called social conservatism trying to cope with a new reality, one they'll have even more difficulty addressing in a meaningful way...
I never knew that slavery existed in the US starting in 1463.
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Wait, he's black? Why didn't anyone say so?
Originally posted by: Lemon law
And tomorrow the Obama legacy will start to be put to the test. .
At the end of the day, Obama was elected because he happened to convince the American people that he was the best person for the job. End of story.
Originally posted by: loki8481
I mean, we elected the best person for the job... isn't that what normal people should do? I guess I just don't grok why people doing the right thing is such a big deal.
Originally posted by: Alistar7
Originally posted by: loki8481
I mean, we elected the best person for the job... isn't that what normal people should do? I guess I just don't grok why people doing the right thing is such a big deal.
He was elected for the color of his skin, not the content of his character.
Tomorrow is being hyped as some symbolic moment when the truth is the only reason this much attention is being focused is because he is black. King must be rolling in his grave....
Originally posted by: Jhhnn
Originally posted by: Alistar7
Originally posted by: loki8481
I mean, we elected the best person for the job... isn't that what normal people should do? I guess I just don't grok why people doing the right thing is such a big deal.
He was elected for the color of his skin, not the content of his character.
Tomorrow is being hyped as some symbolic moment when the truth is the only reason this much attention is being focused is because he is black. King must be rolling in his grave....
That's one of the lamest bits of sophistry ever posted on this forum- no surprise, considering the source.
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
I disagree that racism is prevalent in America today. If it were then Obama wouldn't have been elected in the first place. Even if there was no racism at all it would still make a difference because we can acknowledge the differences in us without it being racist.Originally posted by: budafied
While i disagree he was the best for the job, I agree that its way too big of a deal...
The fact is that if racism was not prevalent in America, the fact that he is (half) black would make no difference.
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: classy
Tuesday will be one the most defining moments in the history of the planet. The US is the most powerful nation on earth. Racism that included hangings, rapes, and all kinds of stuff that occured regularly only 50 years or so ago happened in this very nation... Regardless of politics, religion, color, ethnic background, or where ever you live on this planet, Tuesday is historic. So much so it goes beyond just US history, this will be world history. He may turn out good or bad, but the importance of the day is undeniable.
color me denying the importance. I just don't get it. one sorta black guy got elected... Tuesday afternoon, after the swearing in ceremony, the world is going to be fundamentally unchanged. racism will still exist, the history of civil rights will still be what it is. the serious problems facing some black communities will still be serious and still be problems and still be largely ignored by the establishment.
the democrats could have nominated Adolf Hitler in 2008 and still won the election, which makes me skeptic of whether the election even said anything important about the state of race n Amercia.
Originally posted by: budafied
While i disagree he was the best for the job, I agree that its way too big of a deal...
The fact is that if racism was not prevalent in America, the fact that he is (half) black would make no difference.
We have too many people of every race, color, gender and religion unable to look past their own demographic...racism in America is not exclusive to white people.Racism is a huge issue in America. We have too many retarded backwoods rednecks.