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is anyone else over the whole first black president thing?
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3chordcharlie
Diamond Member
Wait, he's black? Why didn't anyone say so?
Zebo
Elite Member
I never cared in the sense of race but can totally understand why it holds a great deal of importance to many considering AA experience. I am proud of America that we did it - many other counties it would be unthinkable. But then again America is truly blessed by something so it did not surprise me in the least.:thumbsup:
Now lets gets to work!
Now lets gets to work!
dullard
Elite Member
I'll wait until he is ACTUALLY president to be over it. It is hard to be over something that hasn't happened yet. Or maybe, it is just sad to be over something so soon. Take your pick.
But come Feb 2009, I hope I never hear anything about it ever again. I doubt it though. We'll be hearing about it for the rest of our lives.
But come Feb 2009, I hope I never hear anything about it ever again. I doubt it though. We'll be hearing about it for the rest of our lives.
MovingTarget
Diamond Member
It never was an issue with me for good or ill. However, it has many people excited over that fact alone. This I can understand, despite it not applying to me personally. What I am excited about is that this country might have some actual leadership for the first time in a very long time. Race? Who cares... We are about to have a federal holiday about a man who preached that nobody should be judged by thier skin color. I think he would agree that it would apply to a president as well.
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
Yeah, it's pretty sad that the 24hr "news" media and others are constantly gushing and drooling about "african-American" - as if that means anything. It doesn't, he's not "african-American" - he's American. Why is it that some people seem to WANT to look at race depending on the positivity or negativity of it? IMO, his Inauguration is no more "historic" than any other inauguration.
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
Yes, it's historic, but no more historic than other inaugurations.
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
Not when looked at rationally.
From the OP-
Why?
History, on several different levels, starting with 400 years of slavery and the justification for it- basically that blacks were inferior, and that anybody who had black lineage was inferior, and could be enslaved- they bore the biblical mark of Cain, and carried that original sin with them down through the ages.
That context is explored at depth in this book, highly recommended -
http://www.amazon.com/Lost-Ger...ordinary/dp/0871139219
That's 20 generations of prejudice being overcome, no small matter, at all.
And then there's the historical exploitation of that sentiment, first by the Dixiecrats, and later by republicans in their adoption of the southern strategy in the wake of the civil rights movement. Righties are free, of course, to bullshit themselves wrt that- right now, they're bullshitting themselves wrt most everything, so there's no point in making denial anything less than total...
Despite attempts to minimize the event, Obama's inauguration will be historic on a level that probably won't be fully understood until some time in the future, maybe by our children or grandchildren. His election was, in many ways, a referendum on the whole issue of race in America, and we seem to have passed the test, shown just how far we've come in that regard. His victories in Virginia and N Carolina are no small thing, either, leaving the forces of so-called social conservatism trying to cope with a new reality, one they'll have even more difficulty addressing in a meaningful way...
Why?
History, on several different levels, starting with 400 years of slavery and the justification for it- basically that blacks were inferior, and that anybody who had black lineage was inferior, and could be enslaved- they bore the biblical mark of Cain, and carried that original sin with them down through the ages.
That context is explored at depth in this book, highly recommended -
http://www.amazon.com/Lost-Ger...ordinary/dp/0871139219
That's 20 generations of prejudice being overcome, no small matter, at all.
And then there's the historical exploitation of that sentiment, first by the Dixiecrats, and later by republicans in their adoption of the southern strategy in the wake of the civil rights movement. Righties are free, of course, to bullshit themselves wrt that- right now, they're bullshitting themselves wrt most everything, so there's no point in making denial anything less than total...
Despite attempts to minimize the event, Obama's inauguration will be historic on a level that probably won't be fully understood until some time in the future, maybe by our children or grandchildren. His election was, in many ways, a referendum on the whole issue of race in America, and we seem to have passed the test, shown just how far we've come in that regard. His victories in Virginia and N Carolina are no small thing, either, leaving the forces of so-called social conservatism trying to cope with a new reality, one they'll have even more difficulty addressing in a meaningful way...
TastesLikeChicken
Lifer
I disagree that racism is prevalent in America today. If it were then Obama wouldn't have been elected in the first place. Even if there was no racism at all it would still make a difference because we can acknowledge the differences in us without it being racist.
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
Reading comprehension FTL. morAn.
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