Originally posted by: ranmaniac
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Student suspended for wearing Pepsi t-shirt on "Coke Day"
Originally posted by: Zorba
Not to mention a lot of the money is lost in how many layers of administration there are. There are too many school districts and too many levels of admin and assistant.
Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
Corporate america can't do any more harm than the left has already done. Since the new liberial era began our school systems just plain ass suck . Come to think of it . Since left moved in and camped at media headquarters. All aspectics of AMERICAN life has declined. Ask any old fart . 3rd graders plot to stab their teacher . This is an outrage
This kids all need an ass wiping . OH I forgot since the left took over you can't wip your children ass.
Fact is coporate could be a good thing. So far as choosing a career and training. But me myself Lets put america back to were it was in the late 50's . With a few improvements . Such as doing what Martin Luther king accomplished without being forced to do so. Man it would be a good place .
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
No, you're definitely not alone. In my experience everything privatized gets worse. At least when it's government run the goal is humanitarian. Once business takes over then you lose that to greed.
The last thing we need is encouragement to kids to be consumers, capitalists, etc.
Originally posted by: Throckmorton
Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
Corporate america can't do any more harm than the left has already done. Since the new liberial era began our school systems just plain ass suck . Come to think of it . Since left moved in and camped at media headquarters. All aspectics of AMERICAN life has declined. Ask any old fart . 3rd graders plot to stab their teacher . This is an outrage
This kids all need an ass wiping . OH I forgot since the left took over you can't wip your children ass.
Fact is coporate could be a good thing. So far as choosing a career and training. But me myself Lets put america back to were it was in the late 50's . With a few improvements . Such as doing what Martin Luther king accomplished without being forced to do so. Man it would be a good place .
I don't see the left looking to teach creationism, banning real sex ed, etc. Who's controlled the government for the past decade? Not us.
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: ranmaniac
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Student suspended for wearing Pepsi t-shirt on "Coke Day"
The day the principal starts respecting an outside company official more than her students is the day the principal should get fired for failing to do her job, her job isn't to promote a comany, her job is to promote and help her students.
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
No, you're definitely not alone. In my experience everything privatized gets worse. At least when it's government run the goal is humanitarian. Once business takes over then you lose that to greed.
The last thing we need is encouragement to kids to be consumers, capitalists, etc.
Originally posted by: Rio Rebel
GREAT THREAD.
Yes, I too am very concerned about this. My daughter just started Kindergarten this year, and already she's been asked to take part in three different solicitation initiatives. And we also get flooded with business literature from the school - selling books, crafts, any number of things. God help us when she gets older, and is then pressured harder to participate.
Someone has to slow this down, or the schools will spend more time fund-raising than they do educating.
Originally posted by: Zorba
I think one big problem with schools nowadays is how much "technology" they put into all the rooms. I graduated high school in '01, so not that long ago. I made it through all of elementary with my school having one computer lab and a couple computers in the library. In middle school there were two computers labs and about 10 computers in the library. About the same in HS. Now every damn class room has computers in it, every school has a handful of labs with newer computers. Hell, my wife used to tutor 5th graders at an inner city school and they had a full set of PDAs for every student in the class, WTF? And they taught them to do math on the PDAs.
Also before high school, if we wanted to watch a movie in class they had to bring in a projector or TV on a cart. Now every single room has a TV, VCR and DVD player.
It is ridiculous. Not to mention just the cost of getting the equipment in the first place, but now they have to pay a ton of IT people to manage it. It also hurts the teaching process, IMHO, kids need to do Math by hand not on a calculator a PDA. I got all the way through college Differential Equations and Vector Calc without using my calculator for anything more than trig functions and logs, but 5th graders need PDAs to do division? WTF
No, it's merely an extension of this issue. The commercialization of public schools is one repelling aspecting of them and a contributory reason in deciding to send a kid to a private school.The question of privatized education is a side issue.
HELL YEAHneed to stop expecting our students to be a free sales force for any new idea that comes along in the schools.
Like rio said, it's bullsh*t tax payer money expenses and in this case no quantifiable defense of the expense at all. I didn't use computers in school much at all. How the hell is it that I work with them for a living? Defies belief, doesn't it? A crap curriculum and crap student will still both be crap if the medium is a laptop my property taxes just paid for.Hell, my wife used to tutor 5th graders at an inner city school and they had a full set of PDAs for every student in the class, WTF? And they taught them to do math on the PDAs.
Oh, then I'd love to hear what you think about schools making kids sign contracts in highschool like "I won't do drugs or drink alcohol" or sh*t like that. Just yesterday some highschool kids were caught having a beer party (oh the horror) and they were suspended from school. WTF does school have to do with their drinking after hours? It is the police now? Gross overstepping of bounds. The teachers' union and school districts in general are a cancer.so it pisses me off that the school make the parents look like villains if we say no we are not doing this stupid fund raiser.
How can you expect children to compete in the modern world without using computers all the time?Originally posted by: Skoorb
I didn't use computers in school much at all. How the hell is it that I work with them for a living? Defies belief, doesn't it?
It was in Georgia - authority is still supreme and isn't usually questioned.Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: ranmaniac
Remember this story:
Student suspended for wearing Pepsi t-shirt on "Coke Day"
The day the principal starts respecting an outside company official more than her students is the day the principal should get fired for failing to do her job, her job isn't to promote a comany, her job is to promote and help her students.
damn right. suprised there was not more of a uproar or a lawsuit. if anyone needed to be punished it was the Principal