Is AMD FX Bulldozer really that bad for Gaming?

[richdog16]

Is there any major loss If I use AMD Bulldozer for only gaming?

1. Does it affect the FPS in games

2. Does it bottleneck the lastest graphics card.

3.Any other suggestion for a good processor if only using it for gaming and browsing?

 

[Don Karnage]

1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Whats your budget?

 

[tweakboy]

I disagree. People still don't understand. The CPU does not render the graphics in a game. CPU does other stuff, and any QUAD processor , you will not be bottlenecking grab a 460 1GB or AMD 5870 , Open up taskmanager and you will see games take 50 or 60 percent off your CPU. There is no bottleneck, I mean fine maybe it will add 3fps but ya QUAD and OC it put a 460 1GB as red is the devils color and enjoy. If you have 300 bucks + grabe a 570 or the AMD equal... gl

 

[richdog16]

$800 US for AMD Based Rig

Bit I will extend it to $1000US if amd doesnt meet my standands. I want the most bang for buck I can get for $1000

 

[Maximilian]

1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Whats your budget?

This + buy a 2500k.

 

[Hypertag]

I disagree. People still don't understand. The CPU does not render the graphics in a game. CPU does other stuff, and any QUAD processor , you will not be bottlenecking grab a 460 1GB or AMD 5870 , Open up taskmanager and you will see games take 50 or 60 percent off your CPU. There is no bottleneck, I mean fine maybe it will add 3fps but ya QUAD and OC it put a 460 1GB as red is the devils color and enjoy. If you have 300 bucks + grabe a 570 or the AMD equal... gl

It is using "50%" of your CPU due to the way task manager is calculating total CPU usage. If a game (starcraft II) is nearly entirely single-threaded, then it will max out a single core of the CPU. That will register as "25%" usage, but it will not matter that you have "75%" of your CPU free since the game is bottlenecked by single thread performance. Heck, if you have an eight core bulldozer, then you would be showing a "13%" CPU usage in task manager while being bottlenecked by single thread performance. In short, that is just not true. I am also confused why you are recommending the GTX 460, a card that is essentially EOL as the only current remnant of it are the 192-bit V2 models, and the 5870, a card that has been EOL for about a year.

 

[RavenSEAL]

Bulldozer isn't necessarily bad for gaming, it's just that the majority of games aren't up to speed with it's architecture.

If you look at games that effectively use multi-threading, it's right up there with SB in many examples.

 

[LOL_Wut_Axel]

Yes. As you may have heard, it sucks and god kills a kitten every time one is purchased due to the fact Intel has better alternatives at the same or lower price points.

 

[OVerLoRDI]

It isn't a bad CPU. The problem is that the competition (Intel) offers a better CPU for 95% of applications. In your case, if you care about gaming, you'd be better served with an i5 2500k for example. Better thermals, better price, better performance.

 

[Don Karnage]

$800 US for AMD Based Rig

Bit I will extend it to $1000US if amd doesnt meet my standands. I want the most bang for buck I can get for $1000

800 bucks? Give me a few minutes

 

[ShintaiDK]

Is there any major loss If I use AMD Bulldozer for only gaming?

1. Does it affect the FPS in games

2. Does it bottleneck the lastest graphics card.

3.Any other suggestion for a good processor if only using it for gaming and browsing?

All 3 answers are here:

 

[Don Karnage]

Motherboard :

ASRock Z77 Extreme 4 - 139.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157293

CPU :

Core I5 3570K - 229.99 - Newegg - Gets released Sunday

Memory :

8GB G.Skill DDR3 2133 - 50.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231468

Video Card :

Asus HD 7850 - 265.99

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Asus-ATI-Ra...eo_TV_Cards&hash=item2c6431e2d3#ht_5548wt_905

Power Supply :

Corsair 650W - 89.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139020

Cooling Fan :

CM 612 - 39.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835103106

DVD Burner :

LG - 16.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827136236



Total : 833.93

Left out Hard Drive and Case as i'm not sure what you want to go with. The above combo will run any game without issue

 

[Olikan]

All 3 answers are here:

.... so bulldozer is bad when using a 120hz monitor?

( pro tip, use SC2 )

 

[ShintaiDK]

.... so bulldozer is bad when using a 120hz monitor?

( pro tip, use SC2 )

"Pro tip" must be you dont need one with Dulldozer.

 

[RavenSEAL]

Not sure what you want with your "pro tip". Blind faith in a failed product doesnt make it good.

All 3 answers are here:

Can we talk about relevant benchmarks please? Specifically those of games that weren't programmed by mentally handicapped developers?

 

[toyota]

Can we talk about relevant benchmarks please? Specifically those of games that weren't programmed by mentally handicapped developers?

do people only play perfectly optimized games?

 

[Don Karnage]

Can we talk about relevant benchmarks please? Specifically those of games that weren't programmed by mentally handicapped developers?

Like what?

 

[ShintaiDK]

Can we talk about relevant benchmarks please? Specifically those of games that weren't programmed by mentally handicapped developers?

Would Skyrim be one of such games programmed by mentally challenged?

 

[RavenSEAL]

Would Skyrim be one of such games programmed by mentally challenged?

Skyrim had to be patched by the community several times to use more than 1.5gbs of RAM and 2 cores. All because Bethsoft forgot to update their 7 year old engine to meet modern day standards.

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=6058

 

[Olikan]

"Pro tip" must be you dont need one with Dulldozer.

errrr.....my pro tip was exacly to show that bulldozer is bad... but using a relevant benchmark....LOL

skyrim just got SSE support at patch 1.4....so yeah, BAD example

 

[ShintaiDK]

Skyrim had to be patched by the community several times to use more than 1.5gbs of RAM and 2 cores. All because Bethsoft forgot to update their 7 year old engine to meet modern day standards.

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=6058

I have a feeling that your version of a Bulldozer owner would have a very small selection of "approved" games.

 

[frostedflakes]

It's not that Bulldozer is "bad" for gaming, it isn't going to prevent you from running at playable FPS in most games, but there are some situations where BD will bottleneck you more than an Intel CPU. And considering that at pretty much every price point less than or equal to $200, Intel CPUs offer better gaming performance, there's really no good reason to get a Bulldozer for a gaming system IMO. For ~$100 a Core i3-2100 will outperform an FX-4100 and for ~$200 an i5-2500K will outperform an FX-8120 or FX-8150. And that's not even factoring in other considerations, like Sandy Bridge's lower power consumption.

 

[ShintaiDK]

errrr.....my pro tip was exacly to show that bulldozer is bad... but using a relevant benchmark....LOL

skyrim just got SSE support at patch 1.4....so yeah, BAD example

Tell that to everyone playing it.

You cant say its not valid, just because you dont like it for whatever flaw. If people play it they play it. And then performance matters.

 

[Maximilian]

Pick civ V or pick BF3 multiplayer benches.

Those are the only two games that use multithreading properly and civ V isnt that demanding on the CPU. Good luck finding those benches...

 

[tweakboy]

It is using "50%" of your CPU due to the way task manager is calculating total CPU usage. If a game (starcraft II) is nearly entirely single-threaded, then it will max out a single core of the CPU. That will register as "25%" usage, but it will not matter that you have "75%" of your CPU free since the game is bottlenecked by single thread performance. Heck, if you have an eight core bulldozer, then you would be showing a "13%" CPU usage in task manager while being bottlenecked by single thread performance. In short, that is just not true. I am also confused why you are recommending the GTX 460, a card that is essentially EOL as the only current remnant of it are the 192-bit V2 models, and the 5870, a card that has been EOL for about a year.

Actually I use SpeedFan I dont use taskman ....... it goes to 60 percent avg CPU usage in a game. Fine get a 570 or amd equivalent.