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Is amalgam (silver tooth filling) poisonous?
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IceBergSLiM
Lifer
so basically all of you are ok with using extremely toxic poison in your mouth so long as you don't notice the damaging effects? 😕
Throckmorton
Lifer
This post shows your ignorance. Mercury doesn't kill in these concentrations. It does cause brain damage. Why should a dentist care if his patients sustain a little brain damage?
Why are people still posting that the bonds can't be broken? THE FDA SAYS THAT MERCURY IS RELEASED. If it wasn't released from the amalgam, NO ONE WOULD HAVE A REACTION OF ANY KIND.
Throckmorton
Lifer
Did you read my post, or do you just dismiss anything that causes you to think? It's easy to just rattle off about some studies without actually considering what those studies involve isn't it?
I'm not surprised. That is exactly the kind of trite, meaningless posting I'd expect from you. I'm surprised you didn't post something about your dental sexuality to get attention.
moshquerade
No Lifer
Stop acting like a brainwashed alarmist conspiracy theorist twit.
Not only are you full of shit you are full of yourself.
READ THIS, and try to debunk the whole article.
http://www.quackwatch.org/01Qu...tedTopics/mercury.html
Where do you come off saying that?
YOU, Chicken Little, are the one trying to get attention here.
Throckmorton
Lifer
Biased special interest junk. Did you read the whole article? It quotes very small scale studies, to prove something it set out to prove.
Why do YOU think that any amount of mercury in your tissues is alright because most people don't develop noticeable symptoms? We've already established that the mercury is released, despite repeated claims by the "pro-algamists" that it is not.
Do you just believe that mercury is safe? Would you eat albacore tuna if you were pregnant in spite of the FDA's recommendations?
My stance on brain damage is that NONE is better than slight undiagnosed brain damage.
"alarmist" "conspiracy theory twit" "quack"
Nice use of buzzwords!
If you have amalgam in your mouth, fine, leave it there.. but it's time to move on to the freaking 21st century and use composite. We don't use lead pipes anymore, even though you show no symptoms of lead poisoning until you've drank from them for a long time. I spent half my life in a country that still used leaded gas and I don't show any symptoms. Should we give people the alternative of leaded gas in the US?
BTW:
http://www.canlyme.com/quackwatch.html
Your Dr. Barrett does not have a medical license.
IceBergSLiM
Lifer
Are you arguing that mercury is not extremely poisonous? Which part are you arguing.....
IceBergSLiM
Lifer
I can assure you water is not a poison. 😕
uclaLabrat
Diamond Member
Water is most certainly a poison. Ever heard of hyponatremia?
He is correct that the dose of any substance is the determination of its toxological effects. Oxygen is a poison as well.
Anyway, the bioavailability of mercury metal in fillings is ridiculously low. Mercury metal (in the 0 oxidation state) is not terribly dangerous, as your body isn't really "exposed" to it much, meaning the mercury can't wander in and out of cells, or otherwise do damage. However, when organic groups get attached to it, like methyl groups (resulting in dimethyl mercury), it becomes much more toxic. It is more lipophilic and therefore its bioavailability shoots up. Now it can move freely through cell membranes and start interacting with proteins and DNA.
natto fire
Diamond Member
I think he was pointing out anything is poisonous in certain doses. While there is a Grand Canyon sized gap between the doses of water and mercury as far as lethality, it is a good point to remember.
I have 5 amalgam fillings, and I am pretty sure I was mad as a hatter before I got them. I am not sure either way, but I definitely do not care enough to read a bunch of boring dental articles. 😛
Throckmorton
Lifer
They may not care that much about themselves either. There are plenty of fat doctors. Or they probably buy into the reassurances from the ADA. It feels a lot better and is easier to believe that studies don't show harmfulness (but some apparently do) and go with that.
I'd rather be conservative and stick with no neorological damage vs accepting a little to save money.
Think of all the smart people you knew in college who were 100% sure that LSD, cocaine, heroine, cigarettes, and alcohol are harmless if you don't use too much.
IceBergSLiM
Lifer
Point is. Why continue to use a poison at all just because you are not noticing the effects. This doesn't make sense at all when there are better alternatives.
IceBergSLiM
Lifer
no the logic is flawed. Humans cannot live without water. humans can live fine without poison.
lozina
Lifer
I think that since it's so controversial and apparently there is simply not enough information or evidence to prove it is safe or it is dangerous the best is to just avoid it whenever possible. Maybe you won't have to get current amalgam fillings removed but at least don't let a dentist put them in your mouth in the future. If you have the choice, why choose something potentially hazardous? It's like buying a house to raise your family near an industrial waste dump. Sure they say it's safe and it might as well be, but do you really want to take the risk? You could get another house across town...
gsellis
Diamond Member
There are many poisons that humans can live with and without. But being there does not make them a poison. Some poisons are essential! Some of the vitamins are especially bad in high doses. Digitalis is a very dangerous toxin, unless you have certain heart conditions. Then your life is short without it.
Don't eat anything organic! Organics contain Carbon and Nitrogen. Those are the main ingredients of Cyanide!
Too much poly-saturated Oyxgen will kill you!