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Is 80MPH to fast too drive on a freeway?

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smack Down

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Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Re-read, you have been driving for only 6mo. Sloow down and get some experience under your belt.

How will experience help when you are way overdriving your head lights at 80 mph by the time you see anything in the road ahead it will be to late even no mater how much experience you have.
 

QurazyQuisp

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I drive about 80-85... depending on the pack of cars I get into... coming to or from school, it's about an hour and a half drive at 70 and I shave a few minutes off... There are always a pack of cars going 80 to 85 on I96, and I tend to keep up with them.
 

Injury

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You say "out in the boonies" like it makes it less likely someone else is going to be there, but the truth is it means that unpredictable road debris and animals are MORE likely to be there.

While driving at 80MPH won't kill you by itself, the faster you go the less control you have and the less time you have to correct slight errors if something goes wrong.

The difference between 65 and 80 isn't that much, at either speed there are really the same likelyhood of problems, but in all honesty, why the need to go so much faster?

Keep in mind that speeding tickets suck ass and if we ever see you post a "So I got a speeding ticket"... "Help me fight it!" that you are going to be owned, and I will find out what municipality it was so I can mail them a copy of this post. ;)
 

newmachineoverlord

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Your poll needs an option for No, it's "too fast to drive", not "to fast too drive"

The way you phrased it the meaning translates to "Is 80 MPH [to refrain from eating] [also] drive on a freeway?"

As far as your likely intended meaning, the faster you drive above 60mph the worse your gas mileage, so unless you get paid more the sooner you get to your destination you are wasting money by traveling faster than 60mph. You are also more likely to hit a dog, cow, or deer the faster you travel. Hit a cow at 88mph and your probability of survival is low.

If you have had your license for less than three years you should never exceed the legal speed limit unless the flow of traffic is faster and you need to merge. You are likely to kill someone if you drive with excessive speed. The difference between 60 and 80 mph is 160 feet of stopping distance, or 300 feet on wet pavement. (Mandatory read for new drivers: http://www.driveandstayalive.com/info%20section/stopping-distances.htm)

 

wvtalbot

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No, because it is against the law. Simple as that. Its like me saying I will murder someone because I feel like it and I can get away with it.
 

rh71

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speed doesn't kill... it's the instant stopping that will get you. That is, unless you roll over 4 times first.

If you want to do 80, by all means... I avg about 72 on everyday highways just because it feels right... faster if I'm traveling long distances like for getaways.
 

CVSiN

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Originally posted by: newParadigm
Road condition were completley dry, it was 10PM, so almost no traffic, and i was off in the Boonies.

Ladyfriend says its dangerous i say its not, u decide...

Originally posted by: Cuda1447
If you know hwo to drive, and have a reliable car... then I think its fine.

I drive an 2002 Mercury Sable, i've had my Liscence 6months...

well for a new driver maybe a bit fast.. but generally no here thats pretty mucht he flow of traffic speed if its not rush hour..
 

Injury

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Originally posted by: wvtalbot
No, because it is against the law. Simple as that. Its like me saying I will murder someone because I feel like it and I can get away with it.

Equating murder to speeding is like calling grandma's rose garden a redwood forest.
 

wvtalbot

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Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: wvtalbot
No, because it is against the law. Simple as that. Its like me saying I will murder someone because I feel like it and I can get away with it.

Equating murder to speeding is like calling grandma's rose garden a redwood forest.


The law is the law.
 

CVSiN

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Originally posted by: wvtalbot
Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: wvtalbot
No, because it is against the law. Simple as that. Its like me saying I will murder someone because I feel like it and I can get away with it.

Equating murder to speeding is like calling grandma's rose garden a redwood forest.


The law is the law.

LOL.. what are you 12?
or just another Blind ass cop loving fool?
or worse yet a gung ho cop?
nm doesnt matter still a dumbass..
 

sao123

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Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: wvtalbot
Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: wvtalbot
No, because it is against the law. Simple as that. Its like me saying I will murder someone because I feel like it and I can get away with it.

Equating murder to speeding is like calling grandma's rose garden a redwood forest.


The law is the law.

LOL.. what are you 12?
or just another Blind ass cop loving fool?
or worse yet a gung ho cop?
nm doesnt matter still a dumbass..

as long as you live in this great free nation you will have your morality and safety legislated to you... and you will like it...
or you can go live with the communists.
 

newParadigm

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Originally posted by: Evadman
If you have been driving for 6 months, then hell no. You have no idea what you are doing. If you drove before that in motorsports, then probably yes because you hopefully know what you are doing.

Driving a car at 80 is easy. Driving a car at 80 with a blown tire is hard. Without the drving skill necessary, at 80 you and your ladyfriend would be greazy spots on the dividing barrier or a tree.

The second something unexpected happens (blown tire, deer, person running across the road, hitting a tread, etc) is when your training is needed. You only have a split second to react; and you have to do it correctly. too slow or the wrong action could mean death. If you think you are invincable, you are wrong. For heaven sakes if you want to drive fast do it where you will be the only casualty.

Didn't do motorsports, but a freinds dad who used to (do motorsports), and who is also a certified driving instructor, took me out to do high speed stops on this really slick road (it was a private parking lot thats f'ing huge). We also did someother stuff like avoiding obstacles (i assume this would help with the deer problem)...I know i could use more experience, and to the dude about driving fast in the snow, the roads were clear, and ther was no fog, when its snowy, i drive 40-50mph MAX.

 

newParadigm

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Originally posted by: Ilikepiedoyou
I have been autocrossing for a few years now, I would like to beleive that I can handle my car fairly well at speed. Because of which I also no the condition of almost ever wear item on my car.
But I do not travel that fast on the freeway. I try to limit myslef around 60 to 65. On the freeway you are placing a large relaiablity squarly on the shoulders of other drivers. Some who would prefer to put other tasks above that of driving. Also slowing you body down from 80 to 0 in a few feet during a crash is not very survivable no matter how safe your car is.

But its also not much more survivable at 70-0mph...
 

Juno

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man, you got the law outlawed. reduce your speed to 65 or so.

i speed only if i'm bored to death such as long roadtrips. speeding isn't fun though.
 

wvtalbot

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Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: wvtalbot
Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: wvtalbot
No, because it is against the law. Simple as that. Its like me saying I will murder someone because I feel like it and I can get away with it.

Equating murder to speeding is like calling grandma's rose garden a redwood forest.


The law is the law.

LOL.. what are you 12?
or just another Blind ass cop loving fool?
or worse yet a gung ho cop?
nm doesnt matter still a dumbass..


Actually I was an EMT for a few years. So unless you have seen someones face peeled off of asphalt or seen the reaction of a guy who just finds out his best friend is dead because he was speeding, I don't think you should judge.
 

CVSiN

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Originally posted by: wvtalbot
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: wvtalbot
Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: wvtalbot
No, because it is against the law. Simple as that. Its like me saying I will murder someone because I feel like it and I can get away with it.

Equating murder to speeding is like calling grandma's rose garden a redwood forest.


The law is the law.

LOL.. what are you 12?
or just another Blind ass cop loving fool?
or worse yet a gung ho cop?
nm doesnt matter still a dumbass..


Actually I was an EMT for a few years. So unless you have seen someones face peeled off of asphalt or seen the reaction of a guy who just finds out his best friend is dead because he was speeding, I don't think you should judge.

Oh please get off your little soapbox..
Ive have seen way worse than you ever will in the Motorcycle community + 10 years of Military..
ive seen just as many fatal accidents happen at low speeds as high...
For facts on high speed drivign vs low speed look up saftey records for the Autobaun vs US highways.. speed DOES NOT KILL.. CRAPPY TRAINED DRIVERS DO...

Its not speed here that kills its drivers.. its drivers that shouldnt be driving a car period at any speed that are allowed to have licenses that is..

The records for the autobahn are way better than any of our highways over any amount of time.

but thier licensing program is 4x as hard as ours.

80mph to a properly trained driver is like doing 20mph to anyone else..

the problem with US drivers is.. instead of watching what they are doing and concentrating on the road they are...
Slapping the kids...
putting on makeup..
adjusting the Air.. DVD.. CD.. or MP3 player..
shaving...
reading a book or map...
etc etc etc..
Driving is not somthing that needs to be done while distracted.. thats why Ill take a motorcycle rider over a car driver any day... not only are they trained better but they tend to take in everything around them and have absolute concentration when riding...
usually bikers die becasue car drivers are inattentive or distracted.

 

EXman

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Originally posted by: EatSpam
I drive faster than that...but I've also been driving for 10+ years.

You, OTOH, are a new driver and should probably slow it down until you are more experienced.

:cookie: you must be hot stuff at the local conoco :roll:
 

wvtalbot

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Nov 28, 2005
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Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: wvtalbot
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: wvtalbot
Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: wvtalbot
No, because it is against the law. Simple as that. Its like me saying I will murder someone because I feel like it and I can get away with it.

Equating murder to speeding is like calling grandma's rose garden a redwood forest.


The law is the law.

LOL.. what are you 12?
or just another Blind ass cop loving fool?
or worse yet a gung ho cop?
nm doesnt matter still a dumbass..


Actually I was an EMT for a few years. So unless you have seen someones face peeled off of asphalt or seen the reaction of a guy who just finds out his best friend is dead because he was speeding, I don't think you should judge.

Oh please get off your little soapbox..
Ive have seen way worse than you ever will in the Motorcycle community + 10 years of Military..
ive seen just as many fatal accidents happen at low speeds as high...
For facts on high speed drivign vs low speed look up saftey records for the Autobaun vs US highways.. speed DOES NOT KILL.. CRAPPY TRAINED DRIVERS DO...

Its not speed here that kills its drivers that shouldnt be driving a car period at any speed that are allowed to have licenses..

The records for the autobahn are way better than any of our highways over any amount of time.

but thier licensing program is 4x as hard as ours.

80mph to a properly trained driver is like doing 20mph to anyone else..

the problem with US drivers is.. instead of watching what they are doing and concentrating on the road they are...
Slapping the kids...
putting on makeup..
adjusting the Air.. DVD.. CD.. or MP3 player..
shaving...
reading a book or map...
etc etc etc..
Driving is not somthing that needs to be done while distracted.. thats why Ill take a motorcycle rider over a car driver any day... not only are they trained better but they tend to take in everything around them and have absolute concentration when riding...
usually bikers die becasue car drivers are inattentive or distracted.

Fact is there is a direct correlation between the speed of a vehicle and the chance of a fatality. I understand you think that being a biker makes your knowledge more reliable than hundreds of statistical studies, but I think I will stick with those statistics and my experience thank you.
 

erikistired

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Originally posted by: newParadigm
Road condition were completley dry, it was 10PM, so almost no traffic, and i was off in the Boonies.

Ladyfriend says its dangerous i say its not, u decide...

Originally posted by: Cuda1447
If you know hwo to drive, and have a reliable car... then I think its fine.

I drive an 2002 Mercury Sable, i've had my Liscence 6months...

in that case no, if you've been driving 6 months you shouldn't be going 80.

now that said on most highways here it's the normal speed of traffic these days.
 

CVSiN

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Jul 19, 2004
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Originally posted by: wvtalbot
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: wvtalbot
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: wvtalbot
Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: wvtalbot
No, because it is against the law. Simple as that. Its like me saying I will murder someone because I feel like it and I can get away with it.

Equating murder to speeding is like calling grandma's rose garden a redwood forest.


The law is the law.

LOL.. what are you 12?
or just another Blind ass cop loving fool?
or worse yet a gung ho cop?
nm doesnt matter still a dumbass..


Actually I was an EMT for a few years. So unless you have seen someones face peeled off of asphalt or seen the reaction of a guy who just finds out his best friend is dead because he was speeding, I don't think you should judge.

Oh please get off your little soapbox..
Ive have seen way worse than you ever will in the Motorcycle community + 10 years of Military..
ive seen just as many fatal accidents happen at low speeds as high...
For facts on high speed drivign vs low speed look up saftey records for the Autobaun vs US highways.. speed DOES NOT KILL.. CRAPPY TRAINED DRIVERS DO...

Its not speed here that kills its drivers that shouldnt be driving a car period at any speed that are allowed to have licenses..

The records for the autobahn are way better than any of our highways over any amount of time.

but thier licensing program is 4x as hard as ours.

80mph to a properly trained driver is like doing 20mph to anyone else..

the problem with US drivers is.. instead of watching what they are doing and concentrating on the road they are...
Slapping the kids...
putting on makeup..
adjusting the Air.. DVD.. CD.. or MP3 player..
shaving...
reading a book or map...
etc etc etc..
Driving is not somthing that needs to be done while distracted.. thats why Ill take a motorcycle rider over a car driver any day... not only are they trained better but they tend to take in everything around them and have absolute concentration when riding...
usually bikers die becasue car drivers are inattentive or distracted.

Fact is there is a direct correlation between the speed of a vehicle and the chance of a fatality. I understand you think that being a biker makes your knowledge more reliable than hundreds of statistical studies, but I think I will stick with those statistics and my experience thank you.


LOL... all you have to do is use google and search...
it was on history channel.. Discovery.. and TLC.. every time the do a bit on the Autobahn or Autostradas or other Euro superhighways where the speedlimits are higher or nonexistant we get comapred to them..
the truth is there is no relation in accdients to speed..
it all comes down to training...
and if you are old as you say you are.. you should remember that the national US speedm limit was not lowered for safety... but for GAS REASONS...
for many years some states with low pops including nevada and wyoming had highways with no offical speedlimits imposed.
and there were no stats that say it was more dangerous to anyone...

I dont think you are as old as you say you are or you would remeber those days...
the ONLY reason the US has lower limits than the rest of the wold is gas.. and oil prices and our heavy handed government trying to tell us whats good for us...