Is 5G about to be ended by RFK?

[Muse]

Don’t be silly. Have had every Covid shot you have had as well as many many others. Are you vaccinated against small pox? I am. Many today are not. To me it is an utter crime that vaccine research isn’t done in government labs minus the for profit motive that would seek vaccines for viruses that are uncommon in the US but kill so many in poor countries. We should have vaccines for bird flu, malaria, and West Nile.

You've had 9 covid shots?

Yes, small pox vaxxed.

I'm probably more vaxxed than you but won't get further into this.

 

[Muse]

I don't think the Senate will all just line up and salute Da 'Merican Fuhrer and acquiesce to his every whim, but we'll see.

I wish I shared your optimism, I really do.

I saw him on TV news saluting during the national anthem at the Army-Navy football game on Saturday. It was odd on three counts. (1) The custom is hand on heart, not a salute. (2) If he thinks he's acting as president, he's mistaken, he's P-elect. (3) His personal legacy vis a vis the military is to be Cadet Bone Spurs.

Not all senators are fearful of him. There's little if any evidence AFAIK that he can just have any of them thrown in prison at his whim. He's not King of the USA. He's threatened to primary R opponents, but some senators aren't trembling over this, some don't much care or are intending to retire. Just a few are necessary to block an appointment. They are not all like Lindsey Graham. Many have some spine.

 

[iRONic]

Again I wish I had your optimism, mang. The GQP, the Russian asset head of that party, an electorate that has literally lost the mind that they never had, and the inherently weak two party system has caught up to democracy and basically fucked over our country.

I'm just so disappointed in society.

 

[Muse]

Again I wish I had your optimism, mang. The GQP, the Russian asset head of that party, an electorate that has literally lost the mind that they never had, and the inherently weak two party system has caught up to democracy and basically fucked over our country.

I'm just so disappointed in society.

That's OK. It's easier and better to have faith in humanity.

 

[Muse]

Again I wish I had your optimism, mang. The GQP, the Russian asset head of that party, an electorate that has literally lost the mind that they never had, and the inherently weak two party system has caught up to democracy and basically fucked over our country.

I'm just so disappointed in society.

I'm watching this right now and I recommend it!

 

[iRONic]

I read about that and heard that a few days ago.

 

[Moonbeam]

This being torn between optimism and pessimism would not be possible we’re we not in the grips of a catch 22 as I see it. Hope and hopelessness, depression and innocent joy, like the notion oh heaven and hell exist only because each is a state in which we have some familiarity.

We were born in a state of unity, at one with universe, undivided and unable to distinguish ourselves as individual, in essence completely real,only to be ejected from heaven by tha language of put downs.

So here we are subconsciously seeking to regain a sense of unity but convinced that er do not deserve it.

Thus we all once experienced a state of perfection and the pain of losing it is deeply repressed to the extent that we unconsciously want to deny it exists.

The problem is that our fear of returning to that innocent helpless place of oceanic bliss we were born to experience, will result again in another psychic death. But that which we fear has already happened and the thing we really fear is remembering if by some manner of grace we feel it all over again.

So we look everywhere for answers with hope they are out there, knowing too that they are not. The only hope we have is to awaken within. That can happen sitting in a chair.

We are in a capsized boat and to escape we have to swim down.

 

[Moonbeam]

Where I got the idea that faith [and] the scientific method are equivalent is when you said, "So science is a faith." So, from your words. Where you said science is a faith. Utilizing the scientific method and peer review removes the need for faith. I don't need faith to believe that we created and detonated an atomic bomb in 1945. With enough time and resources I could build and detonate an atomic bomb, and no one would have any doubt that I did it. There is no amount of time and resources I could expend to prove to everyone that god listens to me and makes all the good and bad things happen in my life and yours. You can use the word faith to describe your believe in the scientific method and the results thereof, but it is in no way the same thing as religious faith.

"So who knows what is real. You know or you don’t. It’s like a room full of people, some awake and some asleep. Only the awake know we else is awake." The answer is, Moonbeam, as expected.

I'm not hurt by your ignorance, that's your projection onto me. I never said you were ignorant, scientifically or otherwise. I don't even think you are ignorant. How can I be hurt by something that doesn't exist? The rest of it is your usual projection of your belief system onto me. You have no understanding of my inner life, nor my understanding of myself.

The answer is Moonbeam because you are in a pissing contest unconsciously experiencing me as the message instead of the messenger. You hate yourself, don’t know it and don’t want to know you don’t want to know. How do I know? I know me and I know that we are all the same.

You certainly know that because while you protest that I know nothing about your inner life, here you are telling me all about mine, what I know or don’t know and how I am projecting.

The very first time I saw a therapist he told me I was being defensive and I told him back that I was not. When a person is that lacking in self awareness it takes some doing to develop a sense of humor. What’s your problem with being a fool. You certainly don’t lack for company.

 

[Pontius Dilate]

The answer is Moonbeam because you are in a pissing contest unconsciously experiencing me as the message instead of the messenger. You hate yourself, don’t know it and don’t want to know you don’t want to know. How do I know? I know me and I know that we are all the same.

You certainly know that because while you protest that I know nothing about your inner life, here you are telling me all about mine, what I know or don’t know and how I am projecting.

The very first time I saw a therapist he told me I was being defensive and I told him back that I was not. When a person is that lacking in self awareness it takes some doing to develop a sense of humor. What’s your problem with being a fool. You certainly don’t lack for company.

It’s like you are entirely incapable of self-reflection. I said Moonbeam is the answer because you said “only the awake know who are awake.” You are awake, therefore only you know, since you believe me to be asleep. You said it again when you said “I know me and I know that we are all the same.” You think you know that but you don’t. We’re not all the same. That’s what I mean by projection. You project your understanding of yourself onto everyone else saying, “You’re just like me so I know everything about you that you don’t know about yourself.” You don’t. I’m sorry.

I’m good to end this derail if you are, it will never resolve.

 

[Moonbeam]

It’s like you are entirely incapable of self-reflection. I said Moonbeam is the answer because you said “only the awake know who are awake.” You are awake, therefore only you know, since you believe me to be asleep. You said it again when you said “I know me and I know that we are all the same.” You think you know that but you don’t. We’re not all the same. That’s what I mean by projection. You project your understanding of yourself onto everyone else saying, “You’re just like me so I know everything about you that you don’t know about yourself.” You don’t. I’m sorry.

I’m good to end this derail if you are, it will never resolve.

Ask yourself if in a room full of people some awake and some asleep is it that those who are awake know who is awake and who is asleep while the sleepers do not? Will you think the same tomorrow after a good night’s sleep. This is an analogy for a truth worth considering when making assumptions about non-ordinary states of consciousness. Why do you assume that stating this I intended it does not apply to me as well.

I have obviously had experiences that have altered how I vied the world as a younger man. Humans use language to try to pass on what they have learned that seem to have value in life.

In my life I have held many many assumptions about the nature of reality that have proved wrong such that I began to realize I actually know nothing. This has caused me to see in others the same belief I left behind. I know less than others do and I feel better for it. But the cost of that realization was quite high.