Is 5G about to be ended by RFK?

[Zorba]

Hope they do it... American people need to feel the dumb fuckery they voted for in their wallets and daily life.

Feeling the dumb fuckery hasn't changed minds in Alabama, Mississippi, or Arkansas.

 

[Moonbeam]

This is the same thing people said about COVID. It sounds all well and good that anti vax people pay the price for their stupidity but the problem is they take others with them.

Sounds to me like that could be a reason to kill such people as an imminent threat to children. We shoot dogs that bite even though a dog bite isn't normally fatal. Anti-vaxxers who would push their beliefs to force them to be legally binding on other people will kill others so denied as well as themselves like you said. I would certainly shoot anybody who tried to stop me from administering epinephrine to a child of mine experiencing anaphylactic shock if I could not stop them some other way.

Being an idiot is just fine so long as you do not act out and violate the rights of others in the use of their own will. One's rights end where they tread on the rights of others. This just seems obvious. Imagined fears that have no reality are what insanity is all about.

 

[Moonbeam]

Feeling the dumb fuckery hasn't changed minds in Alabama, Mississippi, or Arkansas.

That is a negative view that provides great confirmation bias to liberals witnessing the election of Trump, one that I personal would love to share but having picked up the habit of questioning everything that I become aware of that I want to believe I ask myself is this real. How do we really know no change at all has occurred. Perhaps it has but we are too pessimistic to believe it. How do we know it's not just self hate talking that says nothing good can ever happen.

 

[Oric]

I'm trying not to underestimate my own ignorance, but household microwave ovens operate at ~2.5GHz, and 5G operational bandwidth definitely encompasses this frequency. Hence I can see a superficial reason for questioning the tech. It should be fairly obvious that a phone can't muster the power to warm up one's brain in a measurable way, but I would imagine folks should stay away from a high-powered transceiver.

Picture this: it’s a sunny day, you’re chilling in the shade, living your best life, and suddenly—BAM—a woman pulls out her trusty makeup mirror and starts reflecting sunlight right at you like she’s auditioning for Laser Tag: The Movie. Does it feel warm? Sure, if she’s got sniper-level aim. Does it cook you like a rotisserie chicken? Absolutely not.

Now, compare that to the idea of a microwave oven versus a cell tower trying to fry you. A microwave oven is like the sun’s rays locked in a tiny interrogation room, focused entirely on making your popcorn pop. A cell tower, though? That’s more like a lazy, unfocused sunbeam scattered across an entire football field. You’re more likely to get a decent tan than end up well-done.

Even if the frequencies were the same (spoiler alert: they’re not), a cell tower lacks the power, focus, and sheer get-it-done energy of a microwave. So unless you’re planning on cramming yourself inside your smartphone or cozying up to a cell tower with the dedication of a marshmallow at a campfire, you’re safe.

 

[hal2kilo]

Picture this: it’s a sunny day, you’re chilling in the shade, living your best life, and suddenly—BAM—a woman pulls out her trusty makeup mirror and starts reflecting sunlight right at you like she’s auditioning for Laser Tag: The Movie. Does it feel warm? Sure, if she’s got sniper-level aim. Does it cook you like a rotisserie chicken? Absolutely not.

Now, compare that to the idea of a microwave oven versus a cell tower trying to fry you. A microwave oven is like the sun’s rays locked in a tiny interrogation room, focused entirely on making your popcorn pop. A cell tower, though? That’s more like a lazy, unfocused sunbeam scattered across an entire football field. You’re more likely to get a decent tan than end up well-done.

Even if the frequencies were the same (spoiler alert: they’re not), a cell tower lacks the power, focus, and sheer get-it-done energy of a microwave. So unless you’re planning on cramming yourself inside your smartphone or cozying up to a cell tower with the dedication of a marshmallow at a campfire, you’re safe.

Funny, my first job out of tech school was to work for Motorola Portable Products division in Plantation, FL, as a Final Test Tech. I used to be exposed to 450 Mhz center band (412 - 493) at anywhere from 1 watt, to 5 watts in a walkie talkie package. When I say exposed, I mean literally right in front of me on the bench in a cradle with my hands manipulating the antenna while transmitting to check for parasites on the Cushman analyzer.
Probably caused my cataracts, might have something to due with the painful arthritis in my hands, although my maternal grandmother had really bad hand arthritis.
I still have no worries about cellphones though.

 

[outriding]

not 5g but how about the polio vaccine?

https://archive.is/VRyJb

So. They will allow the insurance companies to deny claims because people did not get the vaccine

Then the idiots blame Obamacare for not allowing it

 

[gothuevos]

not 5g but how about the polio vaccine?

https://archive.is/VRyJb

Nevermind, my bad, got my articles mixed up

 

[Moonbeam]

Picture this: it’s a sunny day, you’re chilling in the shade, living your best life, and suddenly—BAM—a woman pulls out her trusty makeup mirror and starts reflecting sunlight right at you like she’s auditioning for Laser Tag: The Movie. Does it feel warm? Sure, if she’s got sniper-level aim. Does it cook you like a rotisserie chicken? Absolutely not.

Now, compare that to the idea of a microwave oven versus a cell tower trying to fry you. A microwave oven is like the sun’s rays locked in a tiny interrogation room, focused entirely on making your popcorn pop. A cell tower, though? That’s more like a lazy, unfocused sunbeam scattered across an entire football field. You’re more likely to get a decent tan than end up well-done.

Even if the frequencies were the same (spoiler alert: they’re not), a cell tower lacks the power, focus, and sheer get-it-done energy of a microwave. So unless you’re planning on cramming yourself inside your smartphone or cozying up to a cell tower with the dedication of a marshmallow at a campfire, you’re safe.

The size of my balls causes them press up firmly on my iPhone in my front pocket thief proofing it there. Should I worry about having mutants for children?

 

[DaaQ]

The ones in danger are the ones servicing the as was said transceivers, there is guidance not to put yourself (I.E. head) between the transceiver and antenna. Same with satellite internet, Don't stick your body parts between the dish and the LNB.
Same for the MM wave antennas on power/telephone poles in neighborhoods, not a problem unless you need to get right up to the focused power area. Most ppl will not.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Wait the odd tasting liquid in the cup that was very sweet I had at the doctors office when I was a kid was the Polio vaccine?
I swear I can taste it now, weird sterile medicine but unusually sweet sort of like a syrup. Kind of smelled like a bandaid

 

[crashtech]

The ones in danger are the ones servicing the as was said transceivers, there is guidance not to put yourself (I.E. head) between the transceiver and antenna. Same with satellite internet, Don't stick your body parts between the dish and the LNB.
Same for the MM wave antennas on power/telephone poles in neighborhoods, not a problem unless you need to get right up to the focused power area. Most ppl will not.

Yeah, that's what I was trying to infer from my earlier post. Don't get all up into a high-powered unit, or you might get your molecules excited.

 

[crashtech]

Perhaps people are conflating the idea of small cumulative doses of ionizing radiation being detrimental with the notion that microwave radiation would be the same. It's an honest mistake, if an uninformed one.

 

[woolfe9998]

For crissakes, radio waves are at the lowest end of the electromagnetic spectrum. That means low power waves peaking infrequently... It's less harmful than visible light. The relative difference between high and low frequency EM radiation is like either being punched by Mohammed Ali 1000 times a second or being punched by a decrepit 90 year old once an hour.

Next Trump will decide that we should bathe ourselves in gamma radiation to protect against those malignant radio waves. Here, take a hefty dose of gamma along with that bleach you're drinking.

This is truly going to be an idiocrasy.

 

[Moonbeam]

Funny, my first job out of tech school was to work for Motorola Portable Products division in Plantation, FL, as a Final Test Tech. I used to be exposed to 450 Mhz center band (412 - 493) at anywhere from 1 watt, to 5 watts in a walkie talkie package. When I say exposed, I mean literally right in front of me on the bench in a cradle with my hands manipulating the antenna while transmitting to check for parasites on the Cushman analyzer.
Probably caused my cataracts, might have something to due with the painful arthritis in my hands, although my maternal grandmother had really bad hand arthritis.
I still have no worries about cellphones though.

Oh Boy, my Dad built a ham transmitter from from Four one kilowatt Klystron tubes when I was a kid and I lived under the antenna. I could run around at night holding a glowing fluorescent glowing tube light saber. I could see six moons when I was 48 and get electric shocks when I grip things. Everything hurts but my mind. My father told me everything is a question of mind over matter and I don’t have one and it doesn’t matter.

 

[Zorba]

That is a negative view that provides great confirmation bias to liberals witnessing the election of Trump, one that I personal would love to share but having picked up the habit of questioning everything that I become aware of that I want to believe I ask myself is this real. How do we really know no change at all has occurred. Perhaps it has but we are too pessimistic to believe it. How do we know it's not just self hate talking that says nothing good can ever happen.

What are you talking about? It is pretty clear that the poorest, least educated states in the country continue to vote for the same politicians they've always voted for. It shows that suffering doesn't actually make people change their votes.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

The relative difference between high and low frequency EM radiation is like either being punched by Mohammed Ali 1000 times a second or being bombarded by the pressure wave from a butterfly flapping its wings once an hour.

fify

 

[Moonbeam]

What are you talking about? It is pretty clear that the poorest, least educated states in the country continue to vote for the same politicians they've always voted for. It shows that suffering doesn't actually make people change their votes.

But this is in the macro. Are those states becoming redder? And do people who voted for Trump do so with lesser or greater conviction?

 

[Amused]

Non-ionizing radiation can only hurt you by burning you. Full stop. If you can't feel it, it's not hurting you.

Frequency is irrelevant. Radio waves are the LOWEST frequency on the electromagnetic radiation scale. Infrared and visible light are much higher frequency non-ionizing radiation than radio waves and no one freaks out about them.

What matters is the wattage. With ANY non-ionizing radiation, up the wattage and stand close enough and it will cook you. Even visible light can be used to cook you.

Fear of radio waves is a classic nocebo con job.

It amuses me to no end that people who bathe in the warmth of infrared frequency non-ionizing radiation that is far higher in frequency than radio waves from stoves and heaters claim to be bothered by radio waves they cannot feel.

They claim that ultra high frequency radio waves are dangerous... ignorant of the fact that the lower the frequency, the more penetration it has.

 

[hal2kilo]

Oh Boy, my Dad built a ham transmitter from from Four one kilowatt Klystron tubes when I was a kid and I lived under the antenna. I could run around at night holding a glowing fluorescent glowing tube light saber. I could see six moons when I was 48 and get electric shocks when I grip things. Everything hurts but my mind. My father told me everything is a question of mind over matter and I don’t have one and it doesn’t matter.

One of the guys that worked at the plant in FL, put a 1k watt linear power amp in his car for his CB. He had to put in a bigger alternator to power it. When he transmitted you could light up a fluorescent bulb with it also.

 

[Moonbeam]

One of the guys that worked at the plant in FL, put a 1k watt linear power amp in his car for his CB. He had to put in a bigger alternator to power it. When he transmitted you could light up a fluorescent bulb with it also.

Seeing a fluorescent tube light up in your hands with no visible power source kind of begs the question as to what is happening in your body. Whether it's something bad is another question.

 

[Amused]

Seeing a fluorescent tube light up in your hands with no visible power source kind of begs the question as to what is happening in your body. Whether it's something bad is another question.

Seeing electromagnetism excite fluorescing gasses in a tube begs no question over what it does to a human body. Because the answer is nothing.

That's like asking what standing under the northern lights is doing to your body.

The lack of basic science education is just sad.

A fluorescent tube, when exposed to an electromagnetic field (EMF), can glow visibly due to the electric field within the tube, which excites the mercury vapor inside, causing it to emit ultraviolet light that then gets converted to visible light by the phosphor coating on the tube's inner surface; essentially, the EMF acts as a power source to activate the fluorescent tube, even without a direct electrical connection.

In the time humans have become surrounded by EMFs in their day to day lives, life expectancy has more than doubled.

 

[Moonbeam]

Seeing electromagnetism excite fluorescing gasses in a tube begs no question over what it does to a human body. Because the answer is nothing.

That's like asking what standing under the northern lights is doing to your body.

The lack of basic science education is just sad.

A fluorescent tube, when exposed to an electromagnetic field (EMF), can glow visibly due to the electric field within the tube, which excites the mercury vapor inside, causing it to emit ultraviolet light that then gets converted to visible light by the phosphor coating on the tube's inner surface; essentially, the EMF acts as a power source to activate the fluorescent tube, even without a direct electrical connection.

In the time humans have become surrounded by EMFs in their day to day lives, life expectancy has more than doubled.

There are just so many ways I am tempted to answer your post. I'm going with this:

Talk about ignorance! The doubling of life you described is nothing like the 900 years we should be living.

 

[Amused]

There are just so many ways I am tempted to answer your post. I'm going with this:

Talk about ignorance! The doubling of life you described is nothing like the 900 years we should be living.

According to what logic?

 

[Moonbeam]

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According to what logic?

Table 1. Ages of the Patriarchs from Adam to Noah

	Patriarch	Age	Bible Reference
1	Adam	930	Genesis 5:5
2	Seth	912	Genesis 5:8
3	Enosh	905	Genesis 5:11
4	Cainan	910	Genesis 5:14
5	Mahalalel	895	Genesis 5:17
6	Jared	962	Genesis 5:20
7	Enoch	365 (translated)	Genesis 5:23
8	Methuselah	969	Genesis 5:27
9	Lamech	777	Genesis 5:31
10	Noah	950	Genesis 9:29

According to the Bible, the true word of God. Have you been hiding under a rock. You tried the same with me, pawning off something you read in a book about life spans doubling from what, some random book you read? All these people lived before cell phone towers existed. Everybody knows that. Do you believe the word of an infallible being or some rando with a green eye shade. Use some logic.

 

[outriding]

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Table 1. Ages of the Patriarchs from Adam to Noah

	Patriarch	Age	Bible Reference
1	Adam	930	Genesis 5:5
2	Seth	912	Genesis 5:8
3	Enosh	905	Genesis 5:11
4	Cainan	910	Genesis 5:14
5	Mahalalel	895	Genesis 5:17
6	Jared	962	Genesis 5:20
7	Enoch	365 (translated)	Genesis 5:23
8	Methuselah	969	Genesis 5:27
9	Lamech	777	Genesis 5:31
10	Noah	950	Genesis 9:29

According to the Bible, the true word of God. Have you been hiding under a rock. You tried the same with me, pawning off something you read in a book about life spans doubling from what, some random book you read? All these people lived before cell phone towers existed. Everybody knows that. Do you believe the word of an infallible being or some rando with a green eye shade. Use some logic.

A work of fiction should never be brought up when talking about science.