Is 5G about to be ended by RFK?

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In the Trump Administration Crosshairs: Cell Phone Radiation

In 2020, RFK Jr.'s nonprofit sued the FCC over 5G safety. As HHS secretary, he'd have the power to upend the tech.
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I think it is one thing to terrify people their brains are being cooked by radiation from cell towers. Personally, I think it is just fear that is actually what really cooks brains, not the radiation. It's always what you can't see but vividly imagine that creates paranoia and conservative thinking the best, but that's only to win elections. I can't see Republicans ever actually doing anything that would do damage to the telecommunications industry's profits. They are a big part of the owners of that party. They are instrumental on why research on cell tower potential damage goes unfunded. Your opinion?
 
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There’s nothing to research on cell tower damage because it’s already well known to physicists and biologists that RF is harmless. Whoever is making sure it goes unfunded is doing good work by directing research dollars to areas where actual unsolved problems exist.
 
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Not this fucking shit.

When Verizon installed small sites in our neighborhood for wireless internet the local Facebook group went nuts about “5G”. I asked them what frequency they were concerned about and they had no idea.

5G is really about more efficiently utilizing existing frequency bands more seamlessly including bands that were used for 3g and 4g services.
 
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nah, he's going to be way to busy rounding up everyone who received the covid vaccine and placing them in concentration camps
 
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No way is the president elect going to forgo his beloved truth social and & twitter because RFK wants slower internet
 
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What's the state of 5G rollout in the US?

IMO if there's fairly good coverage already then going to war against 5G would be tantamount to a war on consumerism.

Alternatively, if 5G is still far from widespread adoption then the GQP could probably get away with spinning it as "cell tower sickness is a myth but 5G sickness is the real thing!", thus engaging in the usual conservative strategy of conjuring a fantasy issue and "solving" it. The average US citizen won't have anywhere as much of a problem with that because it's not like something they had was taken away.
 
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mikeymikec said:
What's the state of 5G rollout in the US?

IMO if there's fairly good coverage already then going to war against 5G would be tantamount to a war on consumerism.

Alternatively, if 5G is still far from widespread adoption then the GQP could probably get away with spinning it as "cell tower sickness is a myth but 5G sickness is the real thing!", thus engaging in the usual conservative strategy of conjuring a fantasy issue and "solving" it. The average US citizen won't have anywhere as much of a problem with that because it's not like something they had was taken away.
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Must be wide spread, because I actually have 5G service on the edge of the boonies.
 
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We are bombarded with Cell Tower/Mobile Phone "radiations" since 1996. So far so good, so the previous frequencies did not have observable effects. As mentioned before, 5G mostly uses the existing frequencies and add a few more, if the change were to be harmful, it would be an easy task to test and show the results. But talk is cheap, isn2t it.

The real objection to 5G was a different political agenda, it was the Chinese who adopted, patented and distributed 5G globally, so there had to be political and social defenses to slow it down so that the West could catch up. Just like the "EVs catch fire, the batteries don't last bad .. bad .." communications when Chinese EVs smashed European Brands. Same tactic was used to slow down EV adoption.
 
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repoman0 said:
There’s nothing to research on cell tower damage because it’s already well known to physicists and biologists that RF is harmless. Whoever is making sure it goes unfunded is doing good work by directing research dollars to areas where actual unsolved problems exist.
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The biggest issue with 5G is for some reason they install the poles just feet off the road. I guarantee some of those have caused brain damage to those who've been sudden decelerated by them. I'm don't get why they are being allowed to be installed in the clear zone around roads.
 
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Thank you Dr. Salk. I remember my first sugary cup of your serum. It's like the world took a deep breath. But, most of you weren't there, for the real history of it.
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Back when America was great and free, when the government went into schools and vaccinated children without parental consent!
 
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As a young kid my pediatrician had polio. He wore rigid metal leg braces and got around with those metal crutches with the arm cuff. I can still hear the creaking sound his crutches made as he entered the room.
 
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Zorba said:
Back when America was great and free, when the government went into schools and vaccinated children without parental consent!
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Don't know about without consent part. Nobody wanted to have their kids get polio, so no pushback by amateurs with oversized access to media.
 
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Hope they do it... American people need to feel the dumb fuckery they voted for in their wallets and daily life.
 
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evident said:
Hope they do it... American people need to feel the dumb fuckery they voted for in their wallets and daily life.
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On some level, yes, FAFO. But on another level, I hope they don't. The outsized misinformation would probably lead to further support to do other horrible things instead of doing the smart thing of bringing back the vaccine.
 
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Brainonska511 said:
On some level, yes, FAFO. But on another level, I hope they don't. The outsized misinformation would probably lead to further support to do other horrible things instead of doing the smart thing of bringing back the vaccine.
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you're probably right unfortunately.
 
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I'm trying not to underestimate my own ignorance, but household microwave ovens operate at ~2.5GHz, and 5G operational bandwidth definitely encompasses this frequency. Hence I can see a superficial reason for questioning the tech. It should be fairly obvious that a phone can't muster the power to warm up one's brain in a measurable way, but I would imagine folks should stay away from a high-powered transceiver.
 
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hal2kilo said:
Don't know about without consent part. Nobody wanted to have their kids get polio, so no pushback by amateurs with oversized access to media.
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Pretty sure they showed up at school and lined up the kids. There may have been notification, but I don't think they're were permission slips at least not everywhere.

A spoonful of sugar was written after one of the Sherman brothers' kid came home and told his parents how get got to eat a sugar cube at school.
 
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