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is 28 too old to wear North Face?

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Originally posted by: The_Dude8
Originally posted by: jagec
Your friend is clearly in the closet if he is giving that much thought to mens' fashion.

Originally posted by: The_Dude8
patagonia will replace TNF soon.
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Patagucci!

I will admit that I own one of their shells, but I got it more than 50% off. Still overpriced, but I plan to use it for a while.
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I got a few patagucci jackets myself, i also bought it more than 50% off too.
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I liked their climbing shorts with the double layer seat but they are made for people with skinny little legs so I didn't but another pair.
 
The only time when I've laughed at someone wearing North Face was when it was TOO cold to be wearing that stuff (i.e. you need something warmer).

<--- From Alaska
 
what the hell. I thought it was funny seeing people wear north face in school. I do live in florida lol. But I see all types of people wear it when i go skiing. Never knew it was a trend item or anything lol. Just an overpriced jacket 🙂
 
Originally posted by: EMPshockwave82
Originally posted by: Cheesetogo
Originally posted by: EMPshockwave82
Originally posted by: vital
Friend thinks NF is only for college kids 24 and under. What do you think?
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i don't know many college kids that can afford a jacket for 140 bucks unless their parents buy it for them
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You obviously haven't been on many large college campuses during the fall/spring.
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I have........... Daddy bought it
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It's not hard for any college student to save up 2-3 video games worth of cash, or whatever the equivalent is for beer money, etc.
 
I've got nothing against NF, but I do seem to see a concentration of frat boys wearing it. I really don't care, it's just an observation.

I myself hit LL Beans first, and if they don't have what I'm looking for then I will check out the other brands. But ... Beans has everything under the sun, so that has only happened a handful of times now.
 
Originally posted by: RaiderJ
The only time when I've laughed at someone wearing North Face was when it was TOO cold to be wearing that stuff (i.e. you need something warmer).

<--- From Alaska
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Maybe the OP meant to write, "Is -28 too cold to wear North Face?"
 
Originally posted by: Tommouse
I've got nothing against NF, but I do seem to see a concentration of frat boys wearing it. I really don't care, it's just an observation.

I myself hit LL Beans first, and if they don't have what I'm looking for then I will check out the other brands. But ... Beans has everything under the sun, so that has only happened a handful of times now.
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LL BEAN rocks. Their jackets use top quality materials (i.e. gore-tex, primaloft, polartec) with great construction, price and fit. The lifetime warranty also rocks! :thumbsup:
 
Originally posted by: dr150
Originally posted by: Tommouse
I've got nothing against NF, but I do seem to see a concentration of frat boys wearing it. I really don't care, it's just an observation.

I myself hit LL Beans first, and if they don't have what I'm looking for then I will check out the other brands. But ... Beans has everything under the sun, so that has only happened a handful of times now.
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LL BEAN rocks. Their jackets use top quality materials (i.e. gore-tex, primaloft, polartec) with great construction, price and fit. The lifetime warranty also rocks! :thumbsup:
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I hate how LL Bean drastically hypes their gear like their coats that say good down to -40F. Honestly anyone who wore any of their coats at -40F would probably be very uncomfortable and probably die. -40F clothing would be 800down fill pants and parka or 1 piece suit that they use for polar expeditions and High Altitude climbs. As a hiker and mountaineer I find this insulting and dangerous to the consumer. Other than that, I do like their cloths but please give more reasonable comfortable zones.
 
Originally posted by: Eomer of Aldburg
Originally posted by: dr150
Originally posted by: Tommouse
I've got nothing against NF, but I do seem to see a concentration of frat boys wearing it. I really don't care, it's just an observation.

I myself hit LL Beans first, and if they don't have what I'm looking for then I will check out the other brands. But ... Beans has everything under the sun, so that has only happened a handful of times now.
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LL BEAN rocks. Their jackets use top quality materials (i.e. gore-tex, primaloft, polartec) with great construction, price and fit. The lifetime warranty also rocks! :thumbsup:
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I hate how LL Bean drastically hypes their gear like their coats that say good down to -40F. Honestly anyone who wore any of their coats at -40F would probably be very uncomfortable and probably die. -40F clothing would be 800down fill pants and parka or 1 piece suit that they use for polar expeditions and High Altitude climbs. As a hiker and mountaineer I find this insulting and dangerous to the consumer. Other than that, I do like their cloths but please give more reasonable comfortable zones.
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Are you talking their Inactive or active rating? Active rating are nebulous b/c every person generates heat differently at different paces/exertions. Inactive ratings are more reliable.

I think you're mixing LL Bean with Lands End who suspiciously inflate their numbers that defy my experience/logic.

LL Bean and to a lesser extent Eddie Bauer are much more accurate with their ratings. Remember their disclaimer ratings are subjective and differ from person to person, yadda yadda...

BTW, if I recall, Bean tests their jackets on the coldest mountain in the continental US. In my experience, I've taken a 550 fill down jacket to -30F/inactive no problems (w/ long sleeve T) and I get cold rather easily, so I don't see a problem with a higher fill going below that....

Not to quibble (b/c I don't care), but I've never seen LL Bean advertise a -40F jacket, in inactive mode, lol. Please prove me wrong here and now....
 
Tons of people here in Northern CA wear North Face and other outdoor company stuff like Marmot, Patagonia, Columbia, Arc?teryx, Cloudveil, Burton, etc. Most people here are also involved with skiing, hiking, snowboarding, camping, etc. though.
 
Originally posted by: vital
Friend thinks NF is only for college kids 24 and under. What do you think?
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North face is for anybody. It's great stuff and keeps you toasty on the coldest of days.
 
Originally posted by: dr150
Originally posted by: Eomer of Aldburg
Originally posted by: dr150
Originally posted by: Tommouse
I've got nothing against NF, but I do seem to see a concentration of frat boys wearing it. I really don't care, it's just an observation.

I myself hit LL Beans first, and if they don't have what I'm looking for then I will check out the other brands. But ... Beans has everything under the sun, so that has only happened a handful of times now.
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LL BEAN rocks. Their jackets use top quality materials (i.e. gore-tex, primaloft, polartec) with great construction, price and fit. The lifetime warranty also rocks! :thumbsup:
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I hate how LL Bean drastically hypes their gear like their coats that say good down to -40F. Honestly anyone who wore any of their coats at -40F would probably be very uncomfortable and probably die. -40F clothing would be 800down fill pants and parka or 1 piece suit that they use for polar expeditions and High Altitude climbs. As a hiker and mountaineer I find this insulting and dangerous to the consumer. Other than that, I do like their cloths but please give more reasonable comfortable zones.
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Are you talking their Inactive or active rating? Active rating are nebulous b/c every person generates heat differently at different paces/exertions. Inactive ratings are more reliable.

I think you're mixing LL Bean with Lands End who suspiciously inflate their numbers that defy my experience/logic.

LL Bean and to a lesser extent Eddie Bauer are much more accurate with their ratings. Remember their disclaimer ratings are subjective and differ from person to person, yadda yadda...

BTW, if I recall, Bean tests their jackets on the coldest mountain in the continental US. In my experience, I've taken a 550 fill down jacket to -30F/inactive no problems (w/ long sleeve T), so I don't see a problem with a higher fill going below that....

Not to quibble (b/c I don't care), but I've never seen LL Bean advertise a -40F jacket, in inactive mode, lol. Please prove me wrong here and now....
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Now I give you credit that they don't have coat from memory that did -40 inactive but I have seen their down jacket at a rating of 15 light activity to -30F moderate activity. I have also seen on their winter boots in their winter catalog inflate their comfortable range of like -60F. Once again you never see anyone use LL Bean gear for expedition like temperatures. If anything it would be a http://www.asolo.com/content.asp?L=3&idMen=400 or http://www.backcountry.com/sto...Reserve-Boot-Mens.html which come with a non-LL bean price.

I don't know where you got that LL Bean tests their jackets on the coldest mountains in the continental US. One of the coldest would be Mt. Rainier (close to where i live) during winter with the summit temperature barely going over 5f and can dip below 0. Winds that often are from 10-40mph. I have never seen anyone climb Rainier with an LL bean jacket or down coat in the winter. Typically they are North Face, Mountain hardware, Patagonia, Valandre, etc type parkas with high down fill ratings of 700-800. I also call BS with a 550 fill down jacket at -30F inactive. From a reputable comfort rating from a company like Valandre which have sleeping bags (sleeping is similiar to inactive since one isn't moving) give such sleeping bag a comfort rating of a 800 down fill sleeping bag with 1lb 3oz of loft a true comfort rating of 14F to extreme rating of 5F http://www.valandre.com/us/bags/lafayette.htm Now, which one do I trust? A company that has tested their gear to Everest and the poles are some random person stating that their so called "experience" is accurate. :disgust:

Btw, on some of my own winter hikes in the Northern Cascades in winter my North Face Nuptse was only barely comfortable when the temperature drop around 0 while being mostly inactive. If you think your comfortable at -30F with a 550 or 500 down jacket trying spending more then 5 minutes outside and try 12+ hours.
 
Originally posted by: dr150
Bean tests on Mt. Washington.

http://www.llbean.com/outdoorsOnline/mountWashington/

I also saw on National Geographic channel that also mentioned this mountain as consistently having some of the coldest/horrid temps in America.
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From that picture it looks like they went up in summer with probably mild temperatures. They said they test their with the mountain with those extremes, doesn't say they use their gear when the climate gets that extreme. I guarantee if they used their own gear at that temperature and wind, none would return.

And "Dr150" no comment about your highly inaccurate statement of your down jacket at -30F. Still waiting.....
 
Mt. Wash serves as a test bed for foul weather testing and the extremes can help in gauging their ratings. Bean tests year round (deep winter included).

BTW, you can't be so naive to think that the picture on their website represents the only time they went on the mountain. OMG. LOL!

I've used 550 fill down in such temps.....so I wouldn't question if any maker made a claim of a higher fill jacket working in such temps, as my experience correlates with what some claim.


BTW, as an example, Canada Goose (the most famous/respected maker of hardcore expedition arctic extremes) also uses 550 fill most all of their jackets. Research it.

http://www.trailspace.com/gear...oose/expedition-parka/
 
Originally posted by: dr150
Mt. Wash serves as a test bed for foul weather testing and the extremes can help in gauging their ratings. Bean tests year round (deep winter included)

I've used 550 fill down in such temps.....so I wouldn't question if any maker made a claim of a higher fill jacket working in such temps, as my experience correlates with what some claim.
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So you're discrediting Valandre's temperature rating that because your saying that a 550 downfill should be fine at below 0 and they a wrong. Show me actual proof that LL Bean summits Mt. Washington at those extremes. http://www.climber.org/TripRep...-Summit-GangOfFour.jpg Denali is probably considered the coldest mountain in the world. All I see are 800 fill down parkas. Either your right or Valandre and other expedition clothing manufactures are wrong.

Canadian Goose coats may be warm at those temperatures because they are filled with several lbs of that down. That LL bean jacket doesn't weigh 5lbs like that parka. The other question is why use the cheaper less effective 550 down fill vs a higher loft like 800 down which would make the coat lighter and just as warm or warmer if the coat used the same weight in Goose down.
 
Originally posted by: dr150
Originally posted by: Tommouse
I've got nothing against NF, but I do seem to see a concentration of frat boys wearing it. I really don't care, it's just an observation.

I myself hit LL Beans first, and if they don't have what I'm looking for then I will check out the other brands. But ... Beans has everything under the sun, so that has only happened a handful of times now.
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LL BEAN rocks. Their jackets use top quality materials (i.e. gore-tex, primaloft, polartec) with great construction, price and fit. The lifetime warranty also rocks! :thumbsup:
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You really like saying gore-tex, don't you?

🙂
 
I never said that it was "required' but it is highly suggested. Just like it is highly suggested to summit with oxygen instead becoming delusional on the summit attempt. Just because you can do it, doesn't mean one should. I do know the extremes of Mt. Washington and it very severe but It's not exactly the extreme of Everest or colder Denali which can reach to -100F. I just have a bone to pick with some of their temperature suggestions because if taken too literally it could actually kill someone in the back country.
 
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: dr150
Originally posted by: Tommouse
I've got nothing against NF, but I do seem to see a concentration of frat boys wearing it. I really don't care, it's just an observation.

I myself hit LL Beans first, and if they don't have what I'm looking for then I will check out the other brands. But ... Beans has everything under the sun, so that has only happened a handful of times now.
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LL BEAN rocks. Their jackets use top quality materials (i.e. gore-tex, primaloft, polartec) with great construction, price and fit. The lifetime warranty also rocks! :thumbsup:
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You really like saying gore-tex, don't you?

🙂
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It's Gore-Tex Jerry!
 
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