IRS threatens churches non tax status

[ShadesOfGrey]

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey

Originally posted by: techs
This is pretty outrageous. Routinely people like Sen. Frist prepare videos that are shown at churches during services which are blatantly political yet those churches are not threatened with losing their tax exempt status.

So are you outraged because it was the your "side" that is being investigated instead of Frist? Or are you intellectually honest enough to be outraged at the fact that it's done period?

I am more outraged at the Frist/right wing stuff just because the instance cited in this post is that of a general anti-war sermon which seems pretty much non political and withing the realm of religion versus Frists talks on why we need a certain type of judge that his party supports.

So you aren't outraged that both sides use the pulpit for their politics?

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey

Originally posted by: techs
This is pretty outrageous. Routinely people like Sen. Frist prepare videos that are shown at churches during services which are blatantly political yet those churches are not threatened with losing their tax exempt status.

So are you outraged because it was the your "side" that is being investigated instead of Frist? Or are you intellectually honest enough to be outraged at the fact that it's done period?

I am more outraged at the Frist/right wing stuff just because the instance cited in this post is that of a general anti-war sermon which seems pretty much non political and withing the realm of religion versus Frists talks on why we need a certain type of judge that his party supports.

So you aren't outraged that both sides use the pulpit for their politics?

I am more outraged that the churches allow politicians in the church, period.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: bamacre
I am more outraged that the churches allow politicians in the church, period.

True enough, but you can't exclude a member just because they're a politician.

Preaching your politics is another matter entirely, as is assimilating the congregation for your political purposes. THAT ought not be done.

 

[ShadesOfGrey]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey

Originally posted by: techs
This is pretty outrageous. Routinely people like Sen. Frist prepare videos that are shown at churches during services which are blatantly political yet those churches are not threatened with losing their tax exempt status.

So are you outraged because it was the your "side" that is being investigated instead of Frist? Or are you intellectually honest enough to be outraged at the fact that it's done period?

I am more outraged at the Frist/right wing stuff just because the instance cited in this post is that of a general anti-war sermon which seems pretty much non political and withing the realm of religion versus Frists talks on why we need a certain type of judge that his party supports.

So you aren't outraged that both sides use the pulpit for their politics?

I am more outraged that the churches allow politicians in the church, period.

Agreed.
From earlier:

I don't think politicians should be able to use chuch pulpits while campaigning which IMO is worse than a preacher talking about issues. It's done by both sides and should be a violation. It seems we always had one of the candidates(primaries included) in a church pulpit last election cycle. Sorry, but I don't want politics in my spiritualiy so they should stay out.

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey

Originally posted by: techs
This is pretty outrageous. Routinely people like Sen. Frist prepare videos that are shown at churches during services which are blatantly political yet those churches are not threatened with losing their tax exempt status.

So are you outraged because it was the your "side" that is being investigated instead of Frist? Or are you intellectually honest enough to be outraged at the fact that it's done period?

I am more outraged at the Frist/right wing stuff just because the instance cited in this post is that of a general anti-war sermon which seems pretty much non political and withing the realm of religion versus Frists talks on why we need a certain type of judge that his party supports.

So you aren't outraged that both sides use the pulpit for their politics?

But I don't see how preaching an anti-war sermon is politicking any more than preaching not to kill is politicking.

 

[Gigantopithecus]

So is the IRS threatening the tax exempt status of the entire Quaker Church because they preach an anti-war sentiment to the point where almost all of its members refuse to be drafted?

 

[ShadesOfGrey]

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey

Originally posted by: techs
This is pretty outrageous. Routinely people like Sen. Frist prepare videos that are shown at churches during services which are blatantly political yet those churches are not threatened with losing their tax exempt status.

So are you outraged because it was the your "side" that is being investigated instead of Frist? Or are you intellectually honest enough to be outraged at the fact that it's done period?

I am more outraged at the Frist/right wing stuff just because the instance cited in this post is that of a general anti-war sermon which seems pretty much non political and withing the realm of religion versus Frists talks on why we need a certain type of judge that his party supports.

So you aren't outraged that both sides use the pulpit for their politics?

But I don't see how preaching an anti-war sermon is politicking any more than preaching not to kill is politicking.

Depends on the substance of that "anti-war" sermon.

So again, aren't you outraged that both sides use the pulpit for their politics?

 

[episodic]

I don't understand how the government can tell a church what they can and can't speak about?

 

[Cerb]

Originally posted by: episodic
I don't understand how the government can tell a church what they can and can't speak about?

They can't, and don't. They can tell the church if they have to pay taxes or not. Religions have always been on thin ice for tax-exemption, due to being political vehicles.

Also, some of us think churches should pay taxes, because they are not made as charities.

 

[Darkhawk28]

Ok, let me get this straight.

The man didn't advocate for either candidate, but he said that Jesus wouldn't be for this war.

Ummm.... what war WOULD Jesus be for?